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rryles 05-08-2008 10:08

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by madslug (Post 34614969)
When I visit the IP address, I am given a 301 redirect to the URL http://www.phorm.com/ - content length 309

The servers are giving me different times on their clocks, so my guess is that the actual site is hosted on the 2nd server, and in UK as per IP address.

www.phorm.com and webwise.bt.com are giving me clock times which suggest they are on the same server.

If they had any clue about administering a web server* they would have them all synchronised using ntp. The error should be too small for you to detect remotely.

If the time reported by two sites is consistently a few seconds or more out you can safely assume they are separate servers. (Unless it's due to some funky proxying)

If the time reported by two sites is generally the same to within a second, it may or may not be the same server. It could be two servers both synchronised to the same ntp network or time scale.

*I know this is a big assumption.

philj 05-08-2008 10:49

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
9.48am Tuesday BT forum still out from here

Philj

going to drop a copy of the flyer off at my Doc's surgery this morning for him to look at

SelfProtection 05-08-2008 11:21

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
[QUOTE=philj;34615020]9.48am Tuesday BT forum still out from here

BT Forums appear to be back up & I didn't have to wade through treacle to get there?

bluecar1 05-08-2008 12:27

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
BT are locking threads again on the forums, may be time to have a trawl through and see if they have been sanitising things and removing posts that are to near to the truth

copyright thread has been locked

peter

phormwatch 05-08-2008 13:47

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
That's hilarious!

Rchivist 05-08-2008 14:00

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluecar1 (Post 34615066)
BT are locking threads again on the forums, may be time to have a trawl through and see if they have been sanitising things and removing posts that are to near to the truth

copyright thread has been locked

peter

They haven't locked other threads but perhaps in time...

It beggars belief that they are so paranoid that they can't allow us to discuss copyright law.

bluecar1 05-08-2008 14:02

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R Jones (Post 34615120)
They haven't locked other threads but perhaps in time...

It beggars belief that they are so paranoid that they can't allow us to discuss copyright law.

seen my reply on BT?

bet i get no reply

peter

Azreal 05-08-2008 14:15

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Dont Know if this has been posted yet

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08...imping_letter/

bluecar1 05-08-2008 14:31

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Azreal (Post 34615128)
Dont Know if this has been posted yet

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08...imping_letter/

pity our gummy / toothless authorities / (supposed) regulators over here don't take a leaf out their stateside associates and start asking pointed questions of our ISP's and INSIST on INDEPENDANT PROOF not just nice polite boilerplate letters prepared for the ISP's by PHORM that skip over important facts and mis-represent what they are actually doing or plan to do with our private communications

peter

phormwatch 05-08-2008 14:32

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
I suggest that when this is over, and Phorm is a stinking pile of burning heap in the ground, we all show up at the ICO's office to demand his resignation.

rryles 05-08-2008 14:35

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Azreal (Post 34615128)
Dont Know if this has been posted yet

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08...imping_letter/

In a similar vein:

http://www.mediapost.com/publication...&art_aid=87797

They've asked for a response by 8th Aug - That's this Friday!

Florence 05-08-2008 14:39

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phormwatch (Post 34615139)
I suggest that when this is over, and Phorm is a stinking pile of burning heap in the ground, we all show up at the ICO's office to demand his resignation.

Also BT's CEO for bringing the company name into shame. Noticed the finanace bloke at BT bought £100,000 shares in BT suppose he was trying to shure up the price now it is below 175p

phormwatch 05-08-2008 15:25

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Flo-

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/1/ceb30eee-5...077b07658.html

lucevans 05-08-2008 15:46

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluecar1 (Post 34615138)
pity our gummy / toothless authorities / (supposed) regulators over here don't take a leaf out their stateside associates and start asking pointed questions of our ISP's and INSIST on INDEPENDANT PROOF not just nice polite boilerplate letters prepared for the ISP's by PHORM that skip over important facts and mis-represent what they are actually doing or plan to do with our private communications

peter

Glad to see I'm not the only one who's disgusted by the trend these days in the UK to follow the US lead on all matters to do with justice and freedom. They're hardly a shining example, but civil rights in the US are beginning to make the UK look like the People's Republic of China.
The overall impression left by the UK government's action (or rather, inaction) on protecting our privacy and civil rights is that they are a bunch of cringing, cowardly, money-grabbing criminals who wait to see what the big boy on the block does before judging what they can get away with imposing on us. The sooner they're booted out, the better for all of us (and that's from someone who misguidedly voted for them in 1997).
Apologies to the mods for this off-topic rant.

Florence 05-08-2008 16:11

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phormwatch (Post 34615157)

I don't subscribe to that one so cannot see anything.


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