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1andrew1 18-12-2022 20:59
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36142166)
Right, but I was limiting my reply to the point about content being streamed on ITV X before being aired on the live channels.

The features you list aren't unique to ITV X. They were also present in its predecessor, ITV Hub.
Yeah, wasn't comparing ITV Extra to ITV Hub, more why investing in it is important for ITV and adding to the point you had addressed with some others points that ITV Extra also addresses.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36142167)
Sky is finished in my opinion , the next nail in the coffin will be if it loses Premier League Football.
Sky is a solid company and part of a successful American cable and film company so it will be around for some time. However, it is unique in both being a content producer and an infrastructure operator, which goes against the current fashion.

I don't see any company out there willing to take a significant amount of its sports content from Sky Sports. If Sky Sports drops any content, it will likely be because it does not want it badly.

Its closest competitor in this area is now Warner Bros Discovery/BT Sport. Co-owner WBD is financially stretched and in cost-cutting mode.

With regard to the other sports broadcasters:
- ViaPlay is an unknown but has entered the UK on a modest scale.
- DAZN is focused on boxing having being unsuccessful in other bidding rights.
- Amazon is not out to be a large sports player and is quitting tennis https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tenn...-Sports-tennis

SonicMaster 19-12-2022 11:44
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
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Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 36142187)
It's the Virgin Ultra HD channel.
There's some good content on Virgin TV Ultra HD in December:

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...tra-hd-channel

TheWatcher 19-12-2022 14:36
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36142189)
Yeah, wasn't comparing ITV Extra to ITV Hub, more why investing in it is important for ITV and adding to the point you had addressed with some others points that ITV Extra also addresses.

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Sky is a solid company and part of a successful American cable and film company so it will be around for some time. However, it is unique in both being a content producer and an infrastructure operator, which goes against the current fashion.

I don't see any company out there willing to take a significant amount of its sports content from Sky Sports. If Sky Sports drops any content, it will likely be because it does not want it badly.

Its closest competitor in this area is now Warner Bros Discovery/BT Sport. Co-owner WBD is financially stretched and in cost-cutting mode.

With regard to the other sports broadcasters:
- ViaPlay is an unknown but has entered the UK on a modest scale.
- DAZN is focused on boxing having being unsuccessful in other bidding rights.
- Amazon is not out to be a large sports player and is quitting tennis https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tenn...-Sports-tennis

Why do you keep referring to it as "ITV Extra"?

The "X" in ITVX is not short for Extra. They just chose X because it sounds good.

Media Boy UK 20-12-2022 20:48
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Virgin Media UK may put prices up by 14.6% in April 2023.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...s-in-2024.html

Media Boy UK 21-12-2022 02:27
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36141399)
HEAD UP:

*My review of 2022 will be posted sometime on December 22nd.

*I have drop the "Best of" - so no voting this year.

*Changes to Virgin TV (2023) will launch sometime on December 29th or 31st.

PS Happy hoildays.

UPDATE:

*My review of 2022 will NOW be posted sometime after 3pm on December 29th.

*Changes to Virgin TV (2023) will launch sometime on December 31st after 6pm.

:xmas:

Legendkiller2k 21-12-2022 02:30
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36142330)
Virgin Media UK may put prices up by 14.6% in April 2023.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...s-in-2024.html
That could be the straw that breaks the camels back so to say, got a feeling SKY and BT will follow suite.

Kevc69 21-12-2022 07:38
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
In the current climate such a move would undoubtedly be a big risk. I forsee a big loss of customers on the TV side. I'd certainly be considering options given the percentage of repeats on most channels.

denphone 21-12-2022 10:01
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36142338)
That could be the straw that breaks the camels back so to say, got a feeling SKY and BT will follow suite.
No doubt the other two will follow suit as there is only so much customers will pay and given the economic conditions currently its likely all three will lose customers with yet another inflation busting rise.

1andrew1 21-12-2022 12:41
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWatcher (Post 36142214)
Why do you keep referring to it as "ITV Extra"?

The "X" in ITVX is not short for Extra. They just chose X because it sounds good.
Oops my bad. :dunce:

Legendkiller2k 21-12-2022 13:42
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevc69 (Post 36142342)
In the current climate such a move would undoubtedly be a big risk. I forsee a big loss of customers on the TV side. I'd certainly be considering options given the percentage of repeats on most channels.
Even the broadband side VM are at risk with the likes of Cityfibre rolling out their network which is a open network so there is a wider choice of fttp isps available.
I'm now with air broadband as digital home went bust and rightly so is all i'll say on that, anyway air broadband offer 1gbs download and upload speeds for £45p/m with tv included the tv is only netgem so nothing to shout about,
others such as vodafone, talktalk are on the city fibre network too maybe it's time for vm to think about opening their network up?
Those ofcourse are just my thoughts and not rumours/information etc.

nialli 21-12-2022 14:55
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36142330)
Virgin Media UK may put prices up by 14.6% in April 2023.

https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...s-in-2024.html
Never take a headline with “may” in the title as anything more than attention-seeking speculation

Media Boy UK 21-12-2022 15:41
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nialli (Post 36142362)
Never take a headline with “may” in the title as anything more than attention-seeking speculation
I only said "may" due to this part:

Quote:
For example, the latest CPI rate is 10.7% and RPI is 14%, thus an operator that chooses to increase its prices by RPI + 3.9% today would be raising them by an average of 17.9%!

Hugh 21-12-2022 16:25
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36142364)
I only said "may" due to this part:
From the article

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For example, the latest CPI rate is 10.7% and RPI is 14%, thus an operator that chooses to increase its prices by RPI + 3.9% today would be raising them by an average of 17.9%! But it’s worth noting how most broadband providers that adopt this approach use CPI and not RPI (i.e. using RPI on broadband is not a good look).

By comparison, Virgin Media has tended to buck this trend on their fixed line base and, as a result, last year’s annual increase was distinctly less aggressive than some of their closest rivals (here). But it should be said that their mobile customers already suffer from the RPI + 3.9% method (here). However, normally credible sources have now informed us that this may change in 2024.

Assuming the ISP follows the same trend in 2023 as they did in 2022, then we expect their usual round of annual price hikes to be announced in January or February 2023. But this may also give notice of their FUTURE intention to update the terms of their packages to adopt the RPI + 3.9% approach for their broadband base.

The change, which could then become effective for all customers on 1st May 2023, would mean that the price hikes introduced from 1st April 2024 (i.e. the following year) would be based off the RPI rate published in February 2024, plus 3.9% on top. The good news is that we’re expecting inflation to fall significantly by February 2024, although there’s still a high level of uncertainty over those forecasts.

nialli 21-12-2022 17:59
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36142364)
I only said "may" due to this part:
I know. The report referred to is speculation, that's what I'm saying.

Joedm45 22-12-2022 10:35
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
I'm sure O2 have had this 3.9% + RPI baked in to their contracts for years, they certainly wont buck the trend so anyone who has had their Virgin mobile moved over to O2 will likely get a hefty increase.


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