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OLD BOY 17-05-2022 19:46
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36122693)
So now Netflix is looking to live stream some content , wonder what they plan next……………..channels :D

https://gizmodo.com/netflix-live-str...1848933038/amp
FAST channels seem to be a minority interest, and the content is pretty lightweight on the whole.

However, if enough people watch them to enable the channels to make a profit, good luck to them.

As for live streaming, that’s a no-brainer. Every effort needs to be made to maximise audience numbers.

muppetman11 17-05-2022 19:55
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36122710)
FAST channels seem to be a minority interest, and the content is pretty lightweight on the whole.

However, if enough people watch them to enable the channels to make a profit, good luck to them.

As for live streaming, that’s a no-brainer. Every effort needs to be made to maximise audience numbers.
Hang on haven’t you been saying channels are a thing of the past :confused:

You told us not so long back that live streaming would only be used for live Sport and live News. With every post you make I get more and more confused.

epsilon 17-05-2022 20:17
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36122712)
Hang on haven’t you been saying channels are a thing of the past :confused:

You told us not so long back that live streaming would only be used for live Sport and live News. With every post you make I get more and more confused.
All will become clear in 2035. Apparently. :D

jfman 17-05-2022 20:27
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36122710)
Every effort needs to be made to maximise audience numbers.
I couldn’t have put it better myself!

OLD BOY 17-05-2022 23:32
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36122712)
Hang on haven’t you been saying channels are a thing of the past :confused:

You told us not so long back that live streaming would only be used for live Sport and live News. With every post you make I get more and more confused.
I certainly said we would be live streaming news and sport, but obviously that’s not all! Any live content could be streamed!

Hell, the BBC I-Player live-streams all content from all their channels. I’m not sure why you find that confusing.

What I said about the channels was that there would be no need for them. Content would be categorised by content type instead.

jfman 18-05-2022 07:05
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Here we go with the goal post shift. Linear channels delivered over the internet…

OLD BOY 18-05-2022 07:28
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36122732)
Here we go with the goal post shift. Linear channels delivered over the internet…
The linear channels being broadcast were the ones I was referring to, as you well know, as I've said this repeatedly. In other words, the existing terrestrials and pay tv channels, the content for which would be carried by streamers. So, for example, ITV, ITV 2, ITV 3, etc would be brought together as ITVX and eventually indexed by category. They will sit alongside each other for some years before the broadcast channels disappear at some stage in the future.

FAST channels such as those you find on Pluto might proliferate for a while, although whether they will stay the course in the VOD world is hard to judge. I've yet to meet anyone who has heard of Pluto TV so FAST channels will probably remain a minority interest. They will never be great money-spinners, in my view.

I get it that some on here disagree, but that's how I see it. If you believe the growth of the streamers at the expense of the broadcast TV channels will slow down and stop, that's fine by me! Only time will tell who is right, but let's stop arguing about it.

jfman 18-05-2022 08:08
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What’s a FAST channel and what distinguishes it from a broadcast linear channel?

epsilon 18-05-2022 09:46
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36122736)
What’s a FAST channel and what distinguishes it from a broadcast linear channel?
Free ad-supported streaming tv services. You know, a new generation of the sort of linear channel that OB has been telling us will disappear completely. ;)

Itshim 18-05-2022 12:35
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Ok let me start a row what is really the difference between watching a streamed show and watching a recorded show ?

OLD BOY 18-05-2022 13:28
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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36122743)
Free ad-supported streaming tv services. You know, a new generation of the sort of linear channel that OB has been telling us will disappear completely. ;)
Yes, whole channels devoted to cats or a particular subject like that, with a few airing minority sports, and also films. They are rather different from the broadcast channels we have now. Most Forum readers should be able to access Pluto TV to see for themselves.

1andrew1 18-05-2022 13:39
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Not a significant number given their size but indicative of the company's direction nonetheless.
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Netflix cuts 150 jobs after subscriber exodus

US-focused redundancies in film and TV operations follow revenue slowdown

Netflix is cutting 150 jobs as the streaming company seeks to reduce its costs after revealing it expects to lose millions of subscribers in the first half of the year.

The widely expected cuts are mostly focused on its US operation, affecting employees in its sprawling film and TV divisions.

This month, Netflix’s market value was slashed by almost $60bn as investors panicked that the decade-long boom in the streaming sector had come to an end, after the company reported its first loss of subscribers in 10 years.

As of December, Netflix had about 11,300 full-time employees, meaning the cuts represent 1.3% of its global workforce. Last month, it laid off about 25 employees in marketing-related jobs, including contractors who had been there less than a year.

Netflix, which plans to focus on a “less is more” strategy of fewer but higher-quality commissions of series and films, is estimated to be spending $17bn on making and licensing content this year. The company has said it expects to trim its budgets.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ilm-tv-revenue

epsilon 18-05-2022 13:47
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36122770)
Yes, whole channels devoted to cats or a particular subject like that, with a few airing minority sports, and also films. They are rather different from the broadcast channels we have now. Most Forum readers should be able to access Pluto TV to see for themselves.
Cats? Are you sure you're not thinking of YouTube? https://www.bsgroup.eu/blog/what-are-fast-channels/

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FAST channels are today’s fastest growing connected TV video platforms. They extend the reach of traditional linear TV channels (e.g. cable) to connected devices, like CTVs, tablets or laptops. However, unlike traditional subscription-based TV, FAST channels are supported by dynamically inserted ads.
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The most popular services offering FAST channels are Pluto TV (offered by ViacomCBS), Xumo (offered by NBCU), Tubi (offered by Fox), Peacock (offered by NBCU), The Roku Channel (offered by RokuTM), IMDbTV (offered by Amazon) and Samsung TV+ (offered by Samsung).
Looking at the companies involved, it seems to include many of the big streamers. As I understand it, many of the platforms are, at the moment, looking at what works and what doesn't. Content that doesn't work can be culled very quickly. In the meantime, sure, thrilling, modern, content such as the Beverly Hillbillies will be thrown in.

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Media giants have invested in popular services, and the online advertising market (AVOD) could reach 25 billion dollars by 2025.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36122773)
Not a significant number given their size but indicative of the company's direction nonetheless.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ilm-tv-revenue
Maybe they should switch to scheduled content...

jfman 18-05-2022 13:50
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36122770)
Yes, whole channels devoted to cats or a particular subject like that, with a few airing minority sports, and also films. They are rather different from the broadcast channels we have now. Most Forum readers should be able to access Pluto TV to see for themselves.
I don’t see why I should go out my way instead of you provide a distinction between the two as it’s pretty much critical to what you’ve been harping on about for seven years.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36122773)
Not a significant number given their size but indicative of the company's direction nonetheless.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...ilm-tv-revenue
It’s the direction of travel as they say. Clear and obvious to all.

1701-e 18-05-2022 14:20
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36122762)
Ok let me start a row what is really the difference between watching a streamed show and watching a recorded show ?
The biggest pain in the backside is the inability to record to watch. Star Trek Discovery was on such a channel at fixed times with advertising... No option to download or stream on demand. 1970 was asking for it's broadcast system back!


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