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Hugh 10-11-2020 11:47
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36057220)
Same. There will certainly be dodgy ballots in a country with 160 million votes or whatever. The question is proving coordinated and mass-scale fraud sufficient to overturn the result, as Barr's statement says.
Clarification from a DoJ official.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/10/dojs...ud-claims.html
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A DOJ official told NBC News that the memo from Barr does not allege that there are substantial irregularities in the election. It authorizes local U.S. attorneys to investigate if they learn “clear and apparently-credible allegations of irregularities that, if true, could potentially impact the outcome of a federal election in an individual State.”

It added, “While serious allegations should be handled with great care, specious, speculative, fanciful or far-fetched claims should not be a basis for initiating federal inquiries. Nothing here should be taken as an indication that the Department has concluded that voting irregularities have impacted the outcome of any election.”

Sephiroth 10-11-2020 12:04
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
That blooper is icing on the cake. Wonderful.

1andrew1 10-11-2020 12:35
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057267)
I have to give Tony Blair and George W Bush their due. When it came to delivering a dodgy dossier, they delivered. Not so the Trump Administration. ;)

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36057272)
That blooper is icing on the cake. Wonderful.
pip's research suggests it's fake.

Damien 10-11-2020 12:49
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
It's not fake, it's just pretty hard to get the right contrast/brightness setting

Hugh 10-11-2020 13:02
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https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/tru...avYQb0jtdv7F3p

From the Wall Street Journal
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A team of international observers invited by the Trump administration has issued a preliminary report giving high marks to the conduct of last week’s elections--and it criticizes President Trump for making baseless allegations that the outcome resulted from systematic fraud.

A 28-member delegation from the Organization of American States followed events in several locations across the U.S., including in the battleground states of Georgia and Michigan, both remotely and with observers at polling stations and counting centers.

“While the OAS Mission has not directly observed any serious irregularities that call into question the results so far, it supports the right of all contesting parties in an election, to seek redress before the competent legal authorities when they believe they have been wronged,” the report said. “It is critical however, that candidates act responsibly by presenting and arguing legitimate claims before the courts, not unsubstantiated or harmful speculation in the public media.”

The OAS assessment followed similar findings by an election observation team from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.

“Baseless allegations of systematic deficiencies, notably by the incumbent president, including on election night, harm public trust in democratic institutions,” Michael Georg Link, leader of the short-term OSCE observer mission, said last week.

The 20-OAS page report praised state and local officials for efforts to facilitate voting during the coronavirus pandemic and, while it had numerous recommendations for improving the elections system, found no evidence of the pervasive fraud that Mr. Trump, who has not conceded the presidential election, has insisted caused his loss to President-elect Joe Biden.

1andrew1 10-11-2020 13:09
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36057285)
It's not fake, it's just pretty hard to get the right contrast/brightness setting
Thanks for clearing this up.

papa smurf 10-11-2020 13:19
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Georgia Republican Party head casts new doubt on election transparency


David Shafer, the chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, took to Twitter Monday to suggest election officials in Fulton Country tried to pull a fast one on election night.

Shafer said county election officials told “the media and our observers that they were shutting down the tabulation center at State Farm Arena at 10:30 p.m. on election night only to continue counting ballots in secret until 1:00 a.m.”

He continued, “No one disputes that Fulton County elections officials falsely announced that the counting of ballots would stop at 10:30 p.m. No one disputes that Fulton County elected officials unlawfully resumed the counting of ballots after our observers left the center.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/geo...n-transparency

pip08456 10-11-2020 13:30
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36057285)
It's not fake, it's just pretty hard to get the right contrast/brightness setting
If there were any words they would be evident with this using hue, saturation and curves.

There is some interference there but no underlying words.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1605014899

Hugh 10-11-2020 14:09
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36057293)
Georgia Republican Party head casts new doubt on election transparency


David Shafer, the chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, took to Twitter Monday to suggest election officials in Fulton Country tried to pull a fast one on election night.

Shafer said county election officials told “the media and our observers that they were shutting down the tabulation center at State Farm Arena at 10:30 p.m. on election night only to continue counting ballots in secret until 1:00 a.m.”

He continued, “No one disputes that Fulton County elections officials falsely announced that the counting of ballots would stop at 10:30 p.m. No one disputes that Fulton County elected officials unlawfully resumed the counting of ballots after our observers left the center.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/geo...n-transparency
So a Georgian Republican is saying that the election process in a State that has been run by Georgian Republicans since 2004, and overseen by a Republican Governor, Republican Lieutenant-Governor, and Republican Secretary of State, wasn’t done properly?

papa smurf 10-11-2020 14:12
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057297)
So a Georgian Republican is saying that the election process in a State that has been run by Georgian Republicans since 2004, and overseen by a Republican Governor, Republican Lieutenant-Governor, and Republican Secretary of State, wasn’t done properly?
Shafer said county election officials told “the media and our observers that they were shutting down the tabulation center at State Farm Arena at 10:30 p.m. on election night only to continue counting ballots in secret until 1:00 a.m.”

Hope that clears up any confusion you may be experiencing.

1andrew1 10-11-2020 14:15
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36057299)
Shafer said county election officials told “the media and our observers that they were shutting down the tabulation center at State Farm Arena at 10:30 p.m. on election night only to continue counting ballots in secret until 1:00 a.m.”

Hope that clears up any confusion you may be experiencing.

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UPDATE: Fulton County ballot scanning issue affected just 342 votes
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics/...GOHQ365UVQAOA/

Hugh 10-11-2020 14:19
Re: U.S Election 2020
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36057299)
Shafer said county election officials told “the media and our observers that they were shutting down the tabulation center at State Farm Arena at 10:30 p.m. on election night only to continue counting ballots in secret until 1:00 a.m.”

Hope that clears up any confusion you may be experiencing.
Didnt answer the question, though - Republican in a Republican state criticising Republican running of an election...

You keep missing off a bit of that story, which is in the link you provided
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Richard Barron, the head of the Fulton County Elections, told the Journal-Constitution that he sent home just about all his workers at about 10:30 p.m. on election night. The paper said GOP observers “thought all was done for the night.” But a handful of counters stayed until 1 a.m., along with a state observer, to tally the votes. Barron told the paper that the GOP was welcome to observe.
The State Observer was from the Republican Secretary of State - hope this clears up any confusion you may be experiencing...

downquark1 10-11-2020 14:22
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057301)
Didnt answer the question, though - Republican in a Republican state criticising Republican running of an election...

You keep missing off a bit of that story, which is in the link you provided
This is not a clever criticism, there are plenty of Republicans who don't like Trump.

Hugh 10-11-2020 14:24
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Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36057303)
This is not a clever criticism, there are plenty of Republicans who don't like Trump.
Are you intimating that the Republican Secretary of State in Georgia was trying to help Trump lose?

papa smurf 10-11-2020 14:25
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057301)
Didnt answer the question, though - Republican in a Republican state criticising Republican running of an election...

You keep missing off a bit of that story, which is in the link you provided
Obviously they deny any wrongdoing it probably carries a prison sentence.

I missed nothing the "Bit of the story" you refer to was there for all to see in the public domain,unlike votes that are counted after hours in secret by devious people.


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