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Not always the case sadly if you look at our long and ancient history.

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Our long and ancient history is nothing short of glorious. Have some pride in your Country, its people, its values and the gifts it constantly contributes to a better life worldwide.

If that's not winning, what is?

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Indeed it is but lets not have airbrush conveniently the things we don't like from our history.

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Having pride in your country does not exempt it from criticism.

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Its has some wonderful values but not everything is rosy in our garden unless one has rose tinted glasses on.

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Airbrushing?
Bellyaching is endemic in gen snowflake.
Name one other Country that has a rosier garden.

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https://twitter.com/eucopresident/st...30669939249152

May is also reported to have been 'applauded by her EU counterparts' at a dinner yesterday and they're all being complimentary today. So progress.

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And so we edge ever forward in TM's quest for an EU deal. You've got to hand it to her. How political fortunes can change in a very short time.

There will still be major hurdles to overcome as we proceed towards the end of this process. I should imagine that the naysayers on here who do not believe we will get a decent deal are appalled at these developments! Still, I'm sure they will find plenty of negative press reports to believe in for the time being.

I think that this is the time for TM to turn things around. Corbyn has enjoyed his moment of popularity. I'm sure he will look back on it with fondness for the rest of his days.

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Upwards of 17.4m people are watching patiently, reservedly and with steely resolve.
I'm confident that Britain will permit the EU to have a deal.

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Of course they’re applauding her, they’re getting £40 Billion pounds for virtually little effort.

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It's actually to the benefit of both sides once we get beyond the politicking.

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They will only get that if we clinch the trade deal that we want.

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Of course. They know that and we know that; an agreement is inevitable. There has to be political preening for the armchair observers. As long as Barney and Jean play nice, (Sir) David Davis will accommodate them :D.

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I think that now the money has been secured, the EU will be much more relaxed about all this, although I dare say there will be some dramas conjured up to make each side look good.

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Best pantomime this Christmas. Oh, yes it is! :p:

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I see that the in the transition period until 2021, we have to follow EU laws but career MEPs like Farage will no longer have a job in Brussels.

Whoever said there was nothing good about Brexit? ;)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...t-jean-claude/

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You are confusing what the EU wants with what they will get, Andrew.

Whereas Corbyn in his weakness might well agree to that, Theresa will insist either:

1. That the ECJ ceases to apply to the UK after Brexit or

2. That the UK will continue to be involved in EU law as it applies to us during the transitional period.

Can you not see any positives at all with Brexit, Andrew? Just because the EU says something doesn't make it true.

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What was this BS from the EU all this time about the clock is ticking?

Trade talks now won’t start still March, the EU is so full of Lying & Scheming toe rags. :afire: