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denphone 21-05-2018 14:44

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35947537)
The question is what would convince them the outcome would be much different? The local elections might encourage the Tories in that Corbyn hasn't made further inroads it still suggested a hung Parliament, in fact it suggested one in much Labour are the biggest party.

Personally if things continue as they are l would say a hung parliament is a pretty good betting proposition whenever the next general election happens.

OLD BOY 21-05-2018 15:20

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
The results of the local elections are no real guide to what will happen in a General Election. Only some council areas had an election anyway, and the results were skewed by London.

Mr K 21-05-2018 16:24

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35947575)
The results of the local elections are no real guide to what will happen in a General Election. Only some council areas had an election anyway, and the results were skewed by London.

The local elections last year certainly were no indication of what would happen in a General Election as Theresa found to her cost ! They underestimated Labour support in a national vote a few months later.

denphone 29-05-2018 16:30

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l think this just about sums up many politicians nowadays who can't give a straight answer to a straight question...

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3849896.html

Mr K 29-05-2018 20:39

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35948486)
l think this just about sums up many politicians nowadays who can't give a straight answer to a straight question...

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a3849896.html

Williamson is not up to the job, but Theresa has an ever decreasing pool of 'talent' e.g. Boris - Foreign Secretary - you wouldn't have got way with this as a joke 5 years ago....

ianch99 29-05-2018 21:44

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35948515)
Williamson is not up to the job, but Theresa has an ever decreasing pool of 'talent' e.g. Boris - Foreign Secretary - you wouldn't have got way with this as a joke 5 years ago....

Frightening isn't it? The most important time for this country in literally decades and it is being run by a bunch of infighting Amateurs with a bigger clown waiting to take over if this lot self destruct. Jeez .. you could not make it up.

1andrew1 29-05-2018 22:48

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35948515)
Williamson is not up to the job, but Theresa has an ever decreasing pool of 'talent' e.g. Boris - Foreign Secretary - you wouldn't have got way with this as a joke 5 years ago....

The elephants are out of Africa and Williamson out of his depth. Unbelievably crass answers and well done to Richard Madeley for not tolerating such nonsense.

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35948536)
Frightening isn't it? The most important time for this country in literally decades and it is being run by a bunch of infighting Amateurs with a bigger clown waiting to take over if this lot self destruct. Jeez .. you could not make it up.

Every time Liam Fox opens his mouth he makes it up. A real fight for dunce of the month at the moment!

Chloé Palmas 29-05-2018 23:16

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I think that Fox is worried that he won't have a department to run in a while. The fear of redundancy can make people say stupid stuff. He'll still have a job though, just not a cabinet level position.

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35945242)
And lets remember here, so far, Conservative MPs who have accepted wrong doing in the cabinet have resigned when faced with tough pressure.

Yeah, I mean when you are accused of having a "show me your papers policy" what else is there to do, other than resign?

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In the Labour Party, where Antisemitism is rife, so far there is a leader who won't deal with the problem properly despite being under pressure, i.e by sacking Ken Livingston or resign.
Of course...compare the other side to Hitler apologists. What else.

(FYI that wasn't a swipe at you, May did that exact thing on PMQs which is precisely the kind of behavior that makes me view her so poorly).

denphone 10-06-2018 14:49

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For where there is anti Semitic abuse with some parts of the Labour party we also have Islamophobic abuse with some parts of the Conservative party.:(

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...mophobic-abuse

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...nvolvement-pro

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8390121.html

1andrew1 25-06-2018 21:34

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Hands up who said "F*** business" Was it a) Diane Abbott b) Boris Johnson?

The answer is the latter. Is there no party which will stand up for hard-working job-creating companies?
https://www.ft.com/content/8075e68c-...7-1e1a0846c475

OLD BOY 26-06-2018 11:41

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35951818)
Hands up who said "F*** business" Was it a) Diane Abbott b) Boris Johnson?

The answer is the latter. Is there no party which will stand up for hard-working job-creating companies?
https://www.ft.com/content/8075e68c-...7-1e1a0846c475

That was aimed at the CBI, wasn't it?

Incidentally, there is little point linking to The Times or The Financial Times as they are for subscribers only and the rest of us can't read it. You could copy and paste the relevant parts that make your point, however.

denphone 26-06-2018 12:25

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35951818)
Hands up who said "F*** business" Was it a) Diane Abbott b) Boris Johnson?

The answer is the latter. Is there no party which will stand up for hard-working job-creating companies?
https://www.ft.com/content/8075e68c-...7-1e1a0846c475

Labour are not the party for business but the Conservatives who espouse themselves as the party for business are becoming the opposite of that as many close senior business friends of the Conservative party have started to voice their ire and displeasure more and more at the current shambles and lack of any clear plan.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...bs-theresa-may

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/t...ness-ncwfljkcm

http://www.itv.com/news/2018-06-24/a...usiness-party/

https://www.ft.com/content/8075e68c-...7-1e1a0846c475

OLD BOY 26-06-2018 12:29

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35951885)
Labour are not the party for business but the Conservatives who espouse themselves as the party for business are becoming the opposite of that as many close senior business friends of the Conservative party have started to voice their ire and displeasure more and more at the current shambles and lack of any clear plan.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...bs-theresa-may

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/t...ness-ncwfljkcm

http://www.itv.com/news/2018-06-24/a...usiness-party/

https://www.ft.com/content/8075e68c-...7-1e1a0846c475

The end deal will be favourable to business and to Britain. The Government actually wants businesses to plan for a no deal Brexit to show the EU negotiators that we are ready to pull out of a deal if necessary. This is a negotiation, and if you want to win a negotiation, you have to toughen up.

denphone 26-06-2018 12:35

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35951886)
The end deal will be favourable to business and to Britain. The Government actually wants businesses to plan for a no deal Brexit to show the EU negotiators that we are ready to pull out of a deal if necessary. This is a negotiation, and if you want to win a negotiation, you have to toughen up.

In your biased entrenched view but many major UK business leaders and many of the populace do not share your rose tinted false optimism.

papa smurf 26-06-2018 13:14

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35951890)
In your biased entrenched view but many major UK business leaders and many of the populace do not share your rose tinted false optimism.

There's a word for them just let me think what it is.


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