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mike_gain 21-10-2015 17:15
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35804437)
That option exists already.

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 It would be worth it to Sky if the subscriptions they received outweighed the set up and maintenance costs, which of course they would. If it is worth it to have Now TV on the Roku, why not on the Tivo?
How can you state with such confidence that subscriptions would outweigh development and support costs? I can't say they won't but that's a hell of an assertion, especially as Now TV isn't on Tivo which would suggest it isn't worth it. Keep in mind, for it to be worthwhile the new subscriptions gained from users who have a TiVO but don't subscribe anyway would need to cover those costs.

As for Roku, Sky are a major investor in Roku, stands to reason they'd want their on demand service on a technology they invest in.

Also while the option to ditch VM and use an alternative does exist for your belief that a TiVO Now TV app would be a deal clincher for many to be true you'd have to have large swathes of TiVo users NOT subscribing to Now TV as it isn't on TiVO. Instead people are already subscribing to Now TV and VM, it's unlikely those people will be convinced enough by a TiVO Now TV app when making supplier decisions. What I'm saying is that in the grand sceme of things a Now TV app on TiVo just won't enough of an incentive for people...owing to the fact that there are options already and people are using them already.

theone2k10 21-10-2015 17:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35804437)
That option exists already.

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 It would be worth it to Sky if the subscriptions they received outweighed the set up and maintenance costs, which of course they would. If it is worth it to have Now TV on the Roku, why not on the Tivo?
Because 1. Sky part own ROKU.
2. ROKU is more widely available than VM TIVO.

muppetman11 21-10-2015 17:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35804437)
That option exists already.

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 It would be worth it to Sky if the subscriptions they received outweighed the set up and maintenance costs, which of course they would. If it is worth it to have Now TV on the Roku, why not on the Tivo?
Sky already gets subscription money on the VM platform through its wholesale deal.

Media Boy UK 21-10-2015 19:44
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35804149)
A possible sign that AMC is on it's way to cable.

Apparently, it's being transmitted on the Eutelsat satellite at 10 degrees east and is encrypted with B.I.S.S. under the label 'MGM ME'.

By inserting keys, it has been possible to circumvent the encryption and identify the channel being shown.

This satellite is used for professional transmissions, such as to cable operators, as opposed to Direct To Home (DTH) use like Astra 28° East.
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35804177)
It's also been suggested that it's used by the former UPC (now Virgin Media) part of Southern Island for their cable service.
Thanks for rumour.

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James Murdoch reveals Fox planning new bid for full control of Sky.

21st Century Fox chief executive claims not having complete control of pan-European pay-TV broadcaster is ‘not an end state that is natural for us’.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...control-of-sky

passingbat 21-10-2015 20:32
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35804437)


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It would be worth it to Sky if the subscriptions they received outweighed the set up and maintenance costs, which of course they would. If it is worth it to have Now TV on the Roku, why not on the Tivo?
Given that a Now TV box costs fifteen quid and will be way faster than any implementation on Tivo, what is the point of adding it to Tivo?

And I know there is the 'want it all on one box' scenario, but if that is an issue, people could always replace their DVD/BLU-RAY player with an LG model that comes with Now TV, Netflix and Amazon Prime installed. The only caveat to that is that Amazon Prime is limited to stereo, which will only be an issue to those with surround equipment that decodes Dolby Digital+.

RichardCoulter 22-10-2015 01:35
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35804403)
Or a feed for Virgin to pipe on the back end to BT servers.
Do you mean that it could simply be VM being paid to help distribute the signal for BT for the existing platforms (as opposed to being any indication that they intend to add AMC to the VM platform)?

nodrogd 22-10-2015 11:40
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35804523)
Do you mean that it could simply be VM being paid to help distribute the signal for BT for the existing platforms (as opposed to being any indication that they intend to add AMC to the VM platform)?
Could be the feed to Russia:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...placing-787225

RichardCoulter 22-10-2015 14:30
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35804442)
Because 1. Sky part own ROKU.
2. ROKU is more widely available than VM TIVO.
Back in March you posted a rumour about Boxnation HD coming (can't remember if you meant coming to Sky, VM or both.)

Boxnation HD is now testing on Astra with colour bars. For anyone wanting to have a play, the parameters are:

12.032H 27500 2/3

Might be some free boxing!

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Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35804545)
Interesting find, thanks. I'll find out what the language is and if it has subtitles :)

DaMac 22-10-2015 14:54
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35804523)
Do you mean that it could simply be VM being paid to help distribute the signal for BT for the existing platforms (as opposed to being any indication that they intend to add AMC to the VM platform)?
Yes, when the deal was done for BT Sport did it not include VM using their infrastructure to pipe large volumes of data for BT? This could also include video signal to local data centers.

theone2k10 22-10-2015 15:16
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35804563)
Back in March you posted a rumour about Boxnation HD coming (can't remember if you meant coming to Sky, VM or both.)

Boxnation HD is now testing on Astra with colour bars. For anyone wanting to have a play, the parameters are:

12.032H 27500 2/3

Might be some free boxing!



Interesting find, thanks. I'll find out what the language is and if it has subtitles :)
It's coming to virgin very soon as far as i'm aware should be next month.

spiderplant 22-10-2015 21:29
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35804570)
This could also include video signal to local data centers.
Why on earth would VM (or anyone else) receive a signal in one location then pipe it elsewhere? The whole point of distributing channels via satellite is to avoid landline costs.

Gunslinger 23-10-2015 11:14
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35804627)
Why on earth would VM (or anyone else) receive a signal in one location then pipe it elsewhere? The whole point of distributing channels via satellite is to avoid landline costs.
Because 'local data centres' tend to be located on business parks and the like, and lack the dishes and other paraphernalia to pick up signal directly from satellite?

muppetman11 23-10-2015 12:26
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Vice plans to launch 12 TV channels across Europe

Quote:
Vice chief Shane Smith has said he plans to launch a dozen TV channels across Europe, and has rebuffed offers from media companies seeking to take a stake in his European operation.

Smith, the founder of the media company, said the company is in “fast and furious” talks with everyone from*Netflix*to ITV, Sky and Discovery about launching TV channels across the UK and Europe in the next 12 to 18 months.
http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...-across-europe

Media Boy UK 23-10-2015 21:43
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Media Boy sources say no new channels are testing as of October 23rd on Virgin Media UK.

theone2k10 23-10-2015 23:27
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2
 
Did Sony movies ever show up on Virgin media?


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