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martyh

09-04-2016 09:50

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

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Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35831557)

There are available grants for both camps. Apparently the Leave campaign is so factional that it is impossible to judge who should be given the funds.

http://www.electoralcommission.org.u...at-referendums

Actually the official campaigns have not been decided yet (by the electoral committee) they will not be chosen until the middle of this month.

Both campaigns will get a £600,000 public grant with a spending limit of £7m, so on both counts Cameron has blown the budget

Big Brian

09-04-2016 10:52

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

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Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35831557)

Indeed. We should unite then we may have a better chance of winning a Brexit!

Hugh	09-04-2016 12:18

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35831562)

The spending limits only come into effect for a limited time period just before the referendum (it starts on the 15th of April), just like other elections.

Osem	09-04-2016 12:28

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

Is there any limit on how much taxpayer's money the IN side can spend on this beforehand?

papa smurf

09-04-2016 12:49

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35831603)

Is there any limit on how much taxpayer's money the IN side can spend on this beforehand?

now daves been found out i think its over
deceiving people over money didn't see that coming ..

martyh

09-04-2016 18:28

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35831602)

The spending limits only come into effect for a limited time period just before the referendum (it starts on the 15th of April), just like other elections.

Which makes what he did even more cynical

pip08456

09-04-2016 18:56

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35831603)

Is there any limit on how much taxpayer's money the IN side can spend on this beforehand?

The "IN" side can't spend any taxpayers money beforehand they will only get the £600,000 to spend.

The Government is a different matter.

Osem	09-04-2016 19:49

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35831665)

The "IN" side can't spend any taxpayers money beforehand they will only get the £600,000 to spend.

The Government is a different matter.

OK, to rephrase the question, can HMG spend what they like promoting the IN campaign? If so it does rather make the whole thing rather less than fair doesn't it?

Chris

09-04-2016 19:56

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IIRC they will be given status as a campaigner for one side of the debate and they will be limited in what they can spend.

Osem	09-04-2016 19:58

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35831676)

IIRC they will be given status as a campaigner for one side of the debate and they will be limited in what they can spend.

After already spending £millions doing exactly that presumably?

Chris

09-04-2016 20:01

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

There's no restriction on spending outside the official campaign period.

Once we get within 28 days of the vote the gov is not allowed to do anything to influence the vote (the "purdah" period).

pip08456

09-04-2016 20:10

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35831679)

There's no restriction on spending outside the official campaign period.

Once we get within 28 days of the vote the gov is not allowed to do anything to influence the vote (the "purdah" period).

Yes but as Osem has said they can spend millions beforehand to promote their stance.

Osem	09-04-2016 20:13

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Leaflets, poster campaigns, hoardings etc. etc. paid for in advance aren't suddenly going to disappear when the deadline is reached are they.

martyh

09-04-2016 20:14

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Been having a bit of a dig around the electoral commissions website and found this

http://www.electoralcommission.org.u...ampaigners.pdf

This bit is quite interesting

Quote:

What is referendum
spending?
Referendum spending is expenditure on certain campaigning
activities (listed on page 6) that are intended to, or are
otherwise in connection with, promoting or bringing about a
particular outcome in the referendum.
It includes spending on:
 items or services used during the referendum period
including those bought before the period begins
 items or services used during the referendum but paid for
after it
 items or services given to you free of charge or at a noncommercial
discount of more than 10% (see ‘Notional
spending’ on page 11 and 12)

I don't know if i'm reading this correctly but it appears that Cameron has breached the rules

pip08456

09-04-2016 20:18

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35831683)

Been having a bit of a dig around the electoral commissions website and found this

http://www.electoralcommission.org.u...ampaigners.pdf

This bit is quite interesting

I don't know if i'm reading this correctly but it appears that Cameron has breached the rules

NO he hasn't. The IN or OUT will be run by 2 seperate entities not tied to the govenment in power. They will be cross party entities.

I don't agree with it but there it is.

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