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phormwatch 30-07-2008 20:34

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
This whole Phorm/BT episode has been a brutal illustration of the way law and government works for the rich and powerful and not in the interests of citizens.

It's a complete joke, and I will laugh in the face of the next politician who talks about a crisis in confidence in UK Parliamentary democracy.

madslug 30-07-2008 20:52

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dephormation (Post 34611379)
On a more positive note, I received a document from BERR which will please the web masters amongst you... As I said in earlier posts, the one piece of legislation which is out of the hands of incompetent or corrupt regulators is copyright. And BERR agree;

This one needs to be framed.

I wonder if my MP will eventually reply to my last letter with a BERR copy along the same lines.


BTW - does anyone know if you can do a 'class action' as part of a small claims application? Imagine the judge walking into the court and discovering it is filled with webmasters all claiming less than 5k for royalty infringements against the same ISP - and then the same webmasters coming back the next week, claiming for their next invoice.

----

For those webmasters who are wondering how to claim for royalty infringements:

The first thing you need is a host that gives you access to your raw logs. From there it is a simple matter to analyse who has visited from a phormed ISP. Over at badphorm there are a couple of threads:
http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugi...topic.php?5598
http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugi...topic.php?5600
plus the scripts on dephormation site

Wildie 30-07-2008 20:52

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
you really expect a labour gov to give a dam about our rights of freedom, free speach and free will, their colours are red and for a reason, never mine the icon on it thats just to make it look good.

phormwatch 30-07-2008 20:55

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildie (Post 34611405)
you really expect a labour gov to give a dam about our rights of freedom, free speach and free will, their colours are red and for a reason, never mine the icon on it thats just to make it look good.

No I don't, but I don't that's not because it's 'Labour', but because it's the government in a world where Capitalism rules. A Conservative government would not be any better.

Hank 30-07-2008 20:56

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter N (Post 34611247)
The only news today on the BTPLC website is...

Jul 30, 2008 - ITU selects BT's Dave Faulkner to chair new climate change group
BT’s Dr Dave Faulkner has been selected by the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) to chair a new Focus Group examining the impact of information and communication technology (ICT) on climate change.

Climate change group? Are they expecting severe storms?

phormwatch 30-07-2008 20:59

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Phorm storms, of course. :)

Hank 30-07-2008 21:02

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dephormation (Post 34611379)
You'll see over on Bad Phorm I've had more letters from regulators, either refusing to answer questions, or buck passing.

...

On a more positive note, I received a document from BERR which will please the web masters amongst you... As I said in earlier posts, the one piece of legislation which is out of the hands of incompetent or corrupt regulators is copyright. And BERR agree;

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/07/1.jpg

It's good to get that, but it does unfortunately show just how they are allowing this public company to take the urine out of the law of this land and ignore the rights of individuals.

"We'll leave it to them to sort out, since we agreed to let them intercept the communication of thousands of people without any legal warrant, we'll forgive that and suggest support for action in the future to shut them up - at least that way it will all die down, especially since there's so much difficulty in getting the final product to launch... phew, it's let us off the hook in Whitehall!!"

Grrr. I've never felt quite so negative about our politicians, the establishment etc. I was a staunch Royalist, pro-parliament young man and this is making me very bitter about OUR public servants who WE pay the salaries of. Damn not acceptable.

Wildie 30-07-2008 21:02

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 34611409)
Climate change group? Are they expecting severe storms?

could they be expecting a flood of money been washing away from them to some other place:angel:

phormwatch 30-07-2008 21:03

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
So what ever happened to David Davies? Has anyone managed to contact him - or has he been assassinated by the government?

Hank 30-07-2008 21:08

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phormwatch (Post 34611089)
I'm disappointed no one has decided to join in:

>BT/Webwise Topic on Save As... forum started yesterday.

>http://www.filesaveas.co.uk/cgi-bin/...num=1217334228

IMO, we need to concentrate more on getting the message out to the public.

Badly designed login register page. It forgets all you entered into the fields if you have to click "Back" or your back botton on your browser because the user name selected is already in use. 3rd attempt I gave up! However don't let that put anyone off at least one go (link above checked and it works ok)

Hank

Dephormation 30-07-2008 21:32

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
15,974

phormwatch 30-07-2008 21:45

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Phorm's digital PR agency at work again:

http://deandonaldson.wordpress.com/2...-in-a-tea-cup/

i.e. Yet another pro-Phorm marketing blog.

Tarquin L-Smythe 30-07-2008 22:13

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 34611424)
Badly designed login register page. It forgets all you entered into the fields if you have to click "Back" or your back botton on your browser because the user name selected is already in use. 3rd attempt I gave up! However don't let that put anyone off at least one go (link above checked and it works ok)

Hank

posted links on filesaveas revrob and myself have posted there before hopefully there are interested parties needing to be inphormed;)

phormwatch 30-07-2008 22:22

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Hey Tarquin - informative web page, but the text is kind of hard to read. I left a link to a copy of the shades image with every other line removed. Tell me what you think...

Tarquin L-Smythe 30-07-2008 22:26

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phormwatch (Post 34611503)
Hey Tarquin - informative web page, but the text is kind of hard to read. I left a link to a copy of the shades image with every other line removed. Tell me what you think...

check tinyurl in my sig same in notepad form
;)

Thanks for the edit phormwatch its a work in progress


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