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papa smurf 30-05-2025 10:07
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Starmer mentioned Farage 16 times in yesterdays rant, what made me laugh was starmer asking if Farage could be trusted with our pensions /jobs etc, he gets the irony award 2025.

Russ 30-05-2025 15:17
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It's a legit enough question.

However bad of a job the current government is doing, anything with Farage in control will make us ten times worse. Better the devil you know than the populist BS-spouting ex-stockbroker MEP pension-receiving you don't.

Sephiroth 30-05-2025 15:25
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36197317)
It's a legit enough question.

However bad of a job the current government is doing, anything with Farage in control will make us ten times worse. Better the devil you know than the populist BS-spouting ex-stockbroker MEP pension-receiving you don't.
How true is that? We knew Starmer when he made his bid (and promises) to become PM. That devil is as bad news as any of his recent predecessors.

Walking past your hatred of Farage (which significantly blinds you), he has quite a considerable time to put his proposition together; and if it stacks up, the political and economic observers will then say so.

1andrew1 30-05-2025 15:28
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36197313)
Starmer mentioned Farage 16 times in yesterdays rant, what made me laugh was starmer asking if Farage could be trusted with our pensions /jobs etc, he gets the irony award 2025.
I think it's to give out the message that it's now a two-party race between Labour and Reform. The likely messaging is that the Conservatives are out of the race and Labour is now the party of sound finances and government experience so Conservative voters should come over to Labour. Vote Labour or get Liz Truss in trousers with Jeremy Corbyn's policies on benefits and Trump's belief on the NHS in his back pocket.

Sephiroth 30-05-2025 15:35
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Starmer is a complete failure and his press conference proved that.

You don't need to look much further for other proof - like asking other countries to take our illegal immigrants. We has the Rwanda agreement in place which, at least, that fool should have tried. But no, ideology got in the way. Btw, I haven't heard anything on the forum from the hitherto Rwanda bleaters (critics) about Starmer's approaches to other countries.

Russ 30-05-2025 15:37
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36197318)
How true is that?
Extremely true, there's a clip doing the rounds of him as a younger MEP discussing how to screw as much of his MEP expences in to his own pocket as possible.


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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36197318)
Walking past your hatred of Farage
I don't 'hate' anyone.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36197318)
(which significantly blinds you),
But he freely gives us so much to be blind to.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36197318)
he has quite a considerable time to put his proposition together; and if it stacks up, the political and economic observers will then say so.
That's just the problem - it doesn't.

1andrew1 30-05-2025 15:43
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36197320)
Starmer is a complete failure and his press conference proved that.

You don't need to look much further for other proof - like asking other countries to take our illegal immigrants. We has the Rwanda agreement in place which, at least, that fool should have tried. But no, ideology got in the way. Btw, I haven't heard anything on the forum from the hitherto Rwanda bleaters (critics) about Starmer's approaches to other countries.
I'm not a fan but I think your anti-Labour bias precludes your objectivity. He has done well in some areas and badly in others. The badly areas have doubtless been done to death here. The successes include with Trump where he got a trade deal and helped heal the rift between Trump and Zelensky and moved Trump on from not viewing Putin as a friend. And the UK is outperforming many of its peers economically, even if it doesn't feel like it sometimes.

But he lacks the connection with the public despite being a football fan. And there's few people left who don't know his dad was a toolmaker!

Russ 30-05-2025 15:56
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36197322)
I'm not a fan but I think your anti-Labour bias precludes your objectivity.
Obliviously accusing others of similar....

Hugh 30-05-2025 16:10
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Obliviously accusing others of similar....
See, that’s where you’re going wrong - only "lefties" are biased and blinded to others’ viewpoints.

"Righties", obviously are totally objective, see all sides of the argument impartially, have no bias, and anyone who doesn’t agree with them or their views must, according to these precepts, be wrong/biased/mistaken…

Hope this helps…

Paul 30-05-2025 16:16
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I don't 'hate' anyone.
Boris will be glad to hear that.

Russ 30-05-2025 16:23
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Hope this helps…
Dammit :(

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36197327)
Boris will be glad to hear that.
How wonderful

Itshim 30-05-2025 18:50
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36197317)
It's a legit enough question.

However bad of a job the current government is doing, anything with Farage in control will make us ten times worse. Better the devil you know than the populist BS-spouting ex-stockbroker MEP pension-receiving you don't.
Yes Starmer is doing great job , creeping to Donny, give away the Chagos Islands and then paying to use them. Getting great deal from the EU , give away fish, for a shorter queue . So sad.

Russ 30-05-2025 18:51
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Has anyone said Starmer is “doing a great job”?

Hugh 30-05-2025 18:58
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Yes Starmer is doing great job , creeping to Donny, *give away the Chagos Islands and then paying to use them. Getting great deal from the EU , *8give away fish, for a shorter queue . So sad.
Continuing the previous deals negotiated by *James Cleverley/Rishi Sunak and **Johnson - can’t seem to find your criticism of them for the same deals…

papa smurf 30-05-2025 19:20
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Boris will be glad to hear that.
He would if was true


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