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jfman 16-12-2022 21:51
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36142065)
Well, it’ll be interesting. At the moment it’s the TV channels that are losing all the content, and this means they will be losing audience share.
:rofl:

What about TV channels that also stream and broadcast offer On Demand/VoD?

Paul 16-12-2022 22:44
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Well presumably they cannot stream the content they are losing any more than they can broadcast it.

jfman 16-12-2022 22:57
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36142075)
Well presumably they cannot stream the content they are losing any more than they can broadcast it.
Well that’d be true, I’m more questioning OB’s persistent lack of recognition that the streaming market is a subset of the pay-tv market.

heavyside 17-12-2022 08:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36142060)
Sooner rather then later there is going to be dotcom type bust in the overheated and increasingly expensive streaming market.
Bound to happen IMO.

1andrew1 17-12-2022 08:35
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Netflix shares down 8% as their ad-funded service is not meeting its targets. Shares have halved in value this year.
https://news.sky.com/story/netflix-1...start-12768870

SonicMaster 17-12-2022 10:00
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Previously exclusive to top tier customers (Full House / Maxit), the folder of Virgin TV Exclusives box sets appears to have been withdrawn.

Virgin TV Exclusives included:

- The Rook 'Virgin Media Original'
- The Feed 'Virgin Media Original'
- Good Behavior
- Imposters
- Will
- Magic City
- Ash Vs Evil Dead
- Chaussée d’Amour
- Billy & Billie
- Kingdom

They were still promoting it in September but it's gone now:

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...-TV-Exclusives

OLD BOY 17-12-2022 10:26
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36142066)
:rofl:

What about TV channels that also stream and broadcast offer On Demand/VoD?
ITV is steering its audience away from its broadcast channels to its new streamer, ITVX, which is where many of its new dramas will go before they eventually surface on ITV1 under the 'Digital First' policy.

This is likely to deplete the audience for ITV's broadcast channels over time, I would have thought.

jfman 17-12-2022 10:29
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36142101)
ITV is steering its audience away from its broadcast channels to its new streamer, ITVX, which is where many of its new dramas will go before they eventually surface on ITV1 under the 'Digital First' policy.

This is likely to deplete the audience for ITV's broadcast channels over time, I would have thought.
However ITV aren’t losing share where this happens. You’re creating a false narrative where they are competing rather than complementary offerings. Which is odd anyway since your concession that linear television will survive beyond 2035.

spiderplant 17-12-2022 11:55
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36142101)
ITV is steering its audience away from its broadcast channels to its new streamer, ITVX, which is where many of its new dramas will go before they eventually surface on ITV1 under the 'Digital First' policy.
And why do you think are they doing that, OB?

Legendkiller2k 17-12-2022 12:48
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36142101)
ITV is steering its audience away from its broadcast channels to its new streamer, ITVX, which is where many of its new dramas will go before they eventually surface on ITV1 under the 'Digital First' policy.

This is likely to deplete the audience for ITV's broadcast channels over time, I would have thought.
Fun fact streaming services like Direct tv, Fubotv in the US now cost more than tradditional cable tv,
be careful what you wish for.

jfman 17-12-2022 13:18
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36142110)
Fun fact streaming services like Direct tv, Fubotv in the US now cost more than tradditional cable tv,
be careful what you wish for.
It’s been explained countless times that competitive pressures putting up the cost of content simultaneous with costs being absorbed across a decreasing number of subscribers results in this.

However he still thinks this is desirable so long as it is a streamer.

Media Boy UK 17-12-2022 13:54
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
I have been given some new information from a Media Boy UK Source on The old Box Plus channels:

*The Box, 4Music, E4 Extra, Kiss, Magic and Kerrang are set move over to the main Channel 4 playout system in April 2023.

*I can today reveal that The Box, Kiss, Magic and Kerrang are all set to be also rebranded by Channel 4 as their licensing of names from Bauer is coming to an end.

OLD BOY 17-12-2022 14:08
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36142102)
However ITV aren’t losing share where this happens. You’re creating a false narrative where they are competing rather than complementary offerings. Which is odd anyway since your concession that linear television will survive beyond 2035.
They won’t lose overall audience share, but ITVX will increase the proportion of viewers from the old ITV Hub, and the broadcast channel as a result will have fewer viewers.

Just to clarify, I didn’t say that the existing channels broadcasting and listed on the EPG would survive beyond 2035. Obviously, this is dependent on the infrastructure being established by then, and the of course government have already delayed the original timetable for broadband rollout by a few years.

Inactive Digital 17-12-2022 14:20
Re: Changes to Virgin TV (2022)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36142119)
I have been given some new information from a Media Boy UK Source on The old Box Plus channels:

*The Box, 4Music, E4 Extra, Kiss, Magic and Kerrang are set move over to the main Channel 4 playout system in April 2023.

*I can today reveal that The Box, Kiss, Magic and Kerrang are all set to be also rebranded by Channel 4 as their licensing of names from Bauer is coming to an end.
Channel 4 owns the trademark to The Box, but I guess it will be rebranded along with the others anyway as part of the recent announcement of a unified Channel 4 brand.

Media Boy UK 17-12-2022 16:18
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Sky look to CUT channels

Quote:
Sky Sports are considering reducing their number of channels next year due to pressure from their US parent company Comcast to cut costs.

Sky lost 255,000 subscribers in the second quarter of this year with revenue dropping 13.8 per cent and they are anticipating further losses over the next few months as the impact of the cost-of-living crisis hits customers.

Sky Sports expanded to 11 channels five years ago as part of a strategy that allowed viewers to purchase packages to watch individual sports, with some of those channels now vulnerable to cuts. In another sign of cost-cutting, Comcast are close to completing a sale of Sky Deutschland.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-Al-Nassr.html


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