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Jaymoss

14-09-2022 18:40

Re: The energy crisis

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36134182)

Are we meant to have received official notification of price changes, ahead of 1st Oct?
I pay gas by DD, and electric via quarterly bill. Not sure how this £400 rebate will work. Will it come off the gas or the electric?

Looking at the website about my account, it's saying the gas DD is going down from £39 to £31. Not sure whether that will change come October.

From what I gleaned is the DD is taken as normal then the rebate is paid into your bank. Octopus may be giving an option to keep it in the account but this is only guesswork from their magic eye projection. I have no idea what will happen with yours as it is not standard dual fuel DD

Mr K	14-09-2022 21:05

Re: The energy crisis

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36134182)

It'll come off your electric, on account of not everyone has gas, but everyone has electric. DD should be reduced by approx £67 for 6 months.

Jaymoss

14-09-2022 21:16

Re: The energy crisis

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36134190)

It'll come off your electric, on account of not everyone has gas, but everyone has electric. DD should be reduced by approx £67 for 6 months.

I do not think that is right. They are calling it a Rebate. As I said I think the DD goes out and then they refund the #66. We will know soon enough anyway

pip08456

14-09-2022 21:22

Re: The energy crisis

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36134191)

I do not think that is right. They are calling it a Rebate. As I said I think the DD goes out and then they refund the #66. We will know soon enough anyway

Mr K is correct, it will be a credit on your bill.They are calling it a dsicount not a rebate.

Quote:

The £400 discount, administered by energy suppliers, will be paid to consumers over 6 months with payments starting from October 2022, to ensure households receive financial support throughout the winter months.

Those with a domestic electricity meter point paying for their energy via standard credit, payment card and direct debit will receive an automatic deduction to their bills over the 6 month period – totalling £400.

Traditional prepayment meter customers will be provided with Energy Bill discount vouchers from the first week of each month, issued via SMS text, email or post, using the customer’s registered contact details. These customers will need to take action to redeem these at their usual top-up point, such as their nearest local PayPoint or Post Office branch.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/4...ds-this-winter

Jaymoss

14-09-2022 21:48

Re: The energy crisis

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36134193)

Mr K is correct, it will be a credit on your bill.They are calling it a dsicount not a rebate.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/4...ds-this-winter

Octopus are wording it differently

---------- Post added at 21:48 ---------- Previous post was at 21:46 ----------

In fact it is supplier specific how it will be done so we are both correct

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ne...ng-support-pa/

ironically Octopus who call it a rebate on the MSE list say it is a reduction so confused.com.

Hugh	14-09-2022 22:55

Re: The energy crisis

What Shell Energy say…

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Hello Hugh,

The Government is offering extra help for households struggling with rising energy bills and, last week, announced the Energy Price Guarantee. This caps the average household energy bill at £2,500 for two years.

We’ll be in touch shortly to let you know more about the Energy Price Guarantee and how it affects you.

Your household is also set to benefit from the Energy Bills Support Scheme (EBSS), which starts in October 2022.

What is the Energy Bills Support Scheme (EBSS)?
The EBSS means that all UK households will receive £400 towards their electricity bills. You’ll see this as a monthly discount on your energy.

You’ll receive your £400 in six monthly payments:
October £66
November £66
December £67
January £67
February £67
March £67
TOTAL £400

You don’t need to apply for the discount and you won’t need to pay it back.

More about the EBSS

How does the discount work?
You’ll automatically receive a discount to your monthly Direct Debit payment. For example, if your monthly Direct Debit is £200, we’ll deduct £66 in October, leaving you £134 to pay.

If you usually pay less than £66/£67, we won’t collect payment from you that month. Anything leftover will be applied as a credit to your energy account.

The discount will appear on or around the 7th of each month. You can see it, along with how much you owe, on your bill or in the ‘Account Summary’ section of My Account.

Paul	15-09-2022 01:22

Re: The energy crisis

Bulb say a similar thing.
https://help.bulb.co.uk/hc/en-us/art...t-Scheme-EBSS-

Quote:

From October to March you’ll get £400 off your energy bills with the UK government’s Energy Bills Support Scheme. You’ll receive it in instalments of £66 in October and November, and £67 each month from December to March. You don’t need to apply, and you don’t need to pay it back.

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Mind you, I'm sure they will try and increase my DD again, they keep plugging at it, and I keep reducing it again, Im in credit so I think they're taking the pee atm.

denphone

15-09-2022 07:02

Re: The energy crisis

We top our energy up online using a Utilita payment card and then it shows up on the smart meter once the transaction goes through..

Taf	15-09-2022 17:21

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SnoopZ

20-09-2022 10:48

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Just wanted to compare peoples average Gas unit usage in the Summer with it only being used to heat hot water.

Currently only person in the house and with a 25year old boiler I use 6 units to heat hot water PER MONTH during the summer months.

How does this compare to you guys?

Jaymoss

20-09-2022 10:59

Re: The energy crisis

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36134507)

Just wanted to compare peoples average Gas unit usage in the Summer with it only being used to heat hot water.

Currently only person in the house and with a 25year old boiler I use 6 units to heat hot water during the summer months.

How does this compare to you guys?

6 units total? You counting June July August? I have used 11 in that period just for hot water and I have been washing myself in cold water mainly 10 year old boiler ish. Might well need my meter changing after all haha

SnoopZ

20-09-2022 11:17

Re: The energy crisis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36134508)

I take a meter reading on the 25th of each month and for the summer months I'm using 6 units per month, just wanted to know how good or bad that is for 1 person in the house.

I've edited my main post to reflect per month.

You taking showers and washing up in cold water too?

Chris

20-09-2022 11:17

Re: The energy crisis

We’ve used 18 m3 of gas this month so far - with 5 of us in the house, hot water (including showers) and hob are all on gas. Over the same period we’ve imported 170 kWh of electricity, and the solar panels have exported 29kWh (they export to the grid whatever they’re making that we’re not using). To find out how much electricity we’re actually using rather than just what we’re buying, I’d have to work out how to factor in the reading from the solar panel meter, which gives the reading for total generation. Haven’t had time to think about how to calculate that yet.

(Edit) ok so it looks like the panels have generated 72kWh in the first 19 days of this month. If we’ve exported 29 of those, then we must have used 43, which means our total electricity consumption from 1st to 20th September is 213kWh.

SnoopZ

20-09-2022 11:36

Re: The energy crisis

I'm assuming each number on a meter is 1 unit? That's how I got my 6 units subtracting the August reading from July.

Chris

20-09-2022 11:41

Re: The energy crisis

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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36134514)

I'm assuming each number on a meter is 1 unit? That's how I got my 6 units subtracting the August reading from July.

Your gas meter records cubic metres of gas used (or cubic feet if it’s an old one). You have to refer to your bill to find out how many actual kWh of gas that equates to because there’s a further calculation required, to factor in the energy content (”calorific value”) of the gas supplied to you. I guess your counter-top smart meter might do this calculation, though as I’ve been supplied a dodgy smart meter I don’t know.

But if you want to do a straight comparison of what you’re using compared to your neighbours or other forum members, as long as we’re all comparing the same thing it doesn’t really matter which units we’re using. I haven’t had my first bill yet so I don’t know how my gas use translates from m3 to kWh.

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