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Guess which two now Supreme Court Justices that were on President George W. Bush's legal team during the Al Gore fight in 2000?

Justice Brett Kavanaugh and Justice Amy Coney Barratt.

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They are quite entitled to do that, go to court and produce the evidence if it exists.

So far we have (not all but a couple) of accusations of "tremendous corruption and fraud” being perpetrated by Democratic officials in Georgia which has a Republican governor, Republican legislature and Republican officials who oversee voting.

Republican attorneys general across the US filing a joint brief to the US Supreme Court contesting vote counts in Pennsylvania.

The officials argue that the state's court "overstepped" when it allowed ballots post-marked by 3 November but received after the date to be counted. When Pennsylvania's mail voting law was approved last year by the state's Republican-majority legislature.

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But it is totally graceless, the Democrats entering an election they intend to cheat in, with dead people voting, and I have seen today that somebody's dog was given voter registration and had apparently voted in this election.

It is a legal process to contest dodgy dealings and the Democrats do have form Chris, especially when the DNC and Hillary Clinton paid for the fake Russian dossier.

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And that might help them in a close decision but these two justices are lifetime appointments now and I don't see them doing anything too outlandish.

The only way I see Trump overturning the election is via evidence of a wide-ranging and coordinated fraud at a federal level.

At the moment it seems like a pick and mix attempt to find problems with ballots in some of these close states to overturn enough until Trump can hit 270. He'll find problems, there always are, but coordinated fraud involving tens of thousands of ballots in multiple states is a harder task.

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No, "wide-spread fraud" is a red herring, it is not done that way because it is pointless in a electoral college system. You need only discount enough votes to swing battleground states. The fraud need only be from certain officials or even just ground level workers.

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Even senior British judges have political friends and former political activities in their pasts. The nature of the British media and our view of the judiciary is such that these considerations don’t really get an airing.

I think a lot of people misunderstand the significance of an individual US Supreme Court judge’s political sympathies. Whether they err to the conservative or the liberal/progressive side will come out in the way they interpret legal questions against the constitution. It doesn’t mean they’re going to make nakedly political judgments that result in overturning the prospective presidency of a man who secured five million more votes than his opponent. Yes, these people are conservative leaning, but they take the job because they believe in the stability of the USA’s constitutional democracy and they are well aware of the long-term damage they would cause by interfering in elections.

For them to set aside enough votes to materially affect the outcome will require far more than being friends with a former republican president. It will require massive evidence of systematic ballot rigging, of the sort that simply did not happen.

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Mick, you are stating as fact nothing that has as yet been proven, if it does subsequently have the evidence rather than an allegation put forward then and only then can the result be called into question. It's like the dead voting if it did happen then it is up to Trump and his team to present the evidence at court.

I await with baited breath.

BTW nice to see you providing links to these accusations.

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Anyway, we'll see. I don't care too much about the court cases because they'll work themselves out eventually either way.

There are more pressing questions though such as does Trump allow his White House to work with the transition team? At the moment that seems an open question. https://apnews.com/article/election-...747fde8e01319c

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Has there ever been tens of thousands of ballots thrown out in US History? That would have to happen in multiple states and then the Democrats will be finding reasons to reject Republican votes too.

These cases would eventually end up in the Supreme Court.

Remember Flordia was less than 2,000 votes and look at the mess there. 10,000+ votes in multiple states. Don't see it.

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With that attitude you can go find them yourself.

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BREAKING: U.S Attorney General William Barr authorizes federal prosecutors to pursue “substantial allegations” of voting irregularities in the 2020 U.S Elections.

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If such allegations of substance exist.

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Indeed. The court's decision-making will make for cringe-worthy TV viewing. it will be like watching a box set of The Office.

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I don't see the point in chasing fairy tales.

BTW you missed a bit from your breaking news.

Link

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This also is good news for not delaying certification:

Means some of this smaller stuff can't be used to delay the process.

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This maybe intended as showmanship to rally his base for the next election, but its going to end up causing him more damage. Putting personal pride before your country won't end well. It's already alienating mainstream Republucans.

Anyway in 4 years time he'll be too old and surely have dementia. There are signs he isn't being too rational already, don't know if anyone's noticed ? ;)

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I think He's being pretty rational. As Damien has previously linked to, half the funds for the election investigations go to pay off the debts for the 2020 re-election. There's evidently a pool of Trump supporters willing to believe his every word and not think more critically. More importantly, some can be convinced to dip into their pockets for him.

But I agree some of his speeches do give the impression of cognitive degeneration. Most recently that 17-minute rant. But has it got worse over the last four years? I couldn't say. I hope not