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I don't know but it certainly seems ridiculous to enforce rules that no longer apply .

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Although there are a few who would like only the rich, white part of the Commonwealth to be allowed to migrate here, I doubt this would go down well with the remaining Commonwealth countries ..

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You mean like Farage intended to do ;)

Nigel Farage wants second referendum if Remain campaign scrapes narrow win

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l think it was pretty inevitable that Article 50 would not be triggered this year as quite a few senior government officials have been briefing it since not long after the referendum that it was highly unlikely to be triggered this year..

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It's probably a good idea to be prepared for Brexit and that will take time. It's a wise move not to invoke Article 50 given that Theresa May has publicly announced her commitment to Brexit.

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But won't that just move the immigration problem from one area to another?

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I think we have to accept that, in the modern world, Britain is a multicultural, multi-racial and multi-faith country.

In terms of immigration the only way to reduce immigration is to ensure that there are no jobs available and that the unemployed are got into work as soon as possible particularly in the NHS where we have spectacularly under-rated the numbers of staff we need to run the service.

The vast amount spent on agency nurses is undermining the NHS and it's time that the government set up its own agency and set national rates and conditions that the NHS can cope with without the massive overheads caused by the existing agencies.

Where immigrants come from does not matter provided that they have the necessary knowledge, skills, qualities and attitudes to make a positive contribution to society in numbers that we can adequately resource and provide for without having a negative impact on existing British nationals or their environment.

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I heard somewhere that we are training our own Doctors and Nurses but they are few. The first batch should be ready in a year or so, so why not start more training? Eventually we will have enough to run the NHS. Not in my life time but in our Grandchildren's lifetime

The same, of course, applies to Joiners, Builders, Engineers, etc. We can do this!

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Adult training is an area the UK has failed miserably in the last few decades it's often just been easy money for the company's that got the contract with no real oversight or means to ensure decent standards. I am hoping as we go forward that those areas of skills shortages are identified and the means to train people to fill those shortages are created so that we become as self sufficient as we can be. It can't be done overnight but we can make a start and if you turn round to most unemployed people and offer them the chance for proper training with a skilled job at the end of it they will jump at the chance.

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I think that probably demonstrates how disorganised we are. The planning, monitoring, training and recruitment are years behind what they should be.

If they had been we would have had a seamless transition from old staff leaving and new staff arriving with staff levels being correctly staffed.

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Germany also has a problem recruiting doctors, so it's not just the UK.

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I understand a lot of Greek medics have been heading there for that very reason. Spanish too I'd imagine.

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I can understand Greek medics coming here for better wages but surely German doctors are better paid than ours. Then again we have been "poaching" medical staff from the EU for years to make up for staff shortages caused by bad planning.

Bad planning is also responsible for the shortage of prisons, nuclear power stations, navy ships etc.

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Apparently a lot from Eastern Europe.

From 2014

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Theresa May appears to drop migration target deadline...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...corbyn-in-pmqs

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See how many stay, we've always trained our own doctors but can't keep them, perhaps we could force them to stay, it is the will of the people after all