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theone2k10

20-10-2015 14:26

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Spoke to a few sources today regarding nowtv on tivo, they have all said "it will never happen."
If it does happen i'll eat my boots.

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35804232)

I see Virgin media are advertising how you don't pay extra for HD. True but they don't seem to mention you need to be in the top tier to get those channels...

Makes me laugh how they claim HD isn't extra it's plainly obvious to everyone barr VM that the HD cost is hidden in the cost of XL.

Ultimate.Conj

20-10-2015 14:58

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They throw in a few additional channels from TV L to TV XL, but it is mainly the additional decent HD channels that is the difference.

OLD BOY

20-10-2015 16:04

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35804233)

Spoke to a few sources today regarding nowtv on tivo, they have all said "it will never happen."
If it does happen I will eat my boots.

If that is the case, it's a shame.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35804222)

So a customer has to spend £30+ just to add a streaming service doesn't that kind of defeat the whole object. Sorry but none of what your saying makes sense.

I' m kind of struggling with the reason for the confusion here.

If I am a good customer of VM's with the XL pack and I also want Sky Atlantic, VM could help me by providing the ability to get Now TV on my box.

As it happens, I've had to buy a Roku stick to do just that.

It is true there is a lot of duplication on Now TV, but that isn't the point. The point is that it would allow you to stick with Virgin while also accessing Sky Atlantic.

Of course if you don't want to pay for duplicated services in this way, you could just move over to Sky, but that option is already available.

I am reasonably content to pay the extra €6.99 to get Sky Atlantic while remaining with Virgin.

Anypermitedroute

20-10-2015 16:12

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35804254)

If that is the case, it's a shame.

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I' m kind of struggling with the reason for the confusion here.

If I am a good customer of VM's with the XL pack and I also want Sky Atlantic, VM could help me by providing the ability to get Now TV on my box.

As it happens, I've had to buy a Roku stick to do just that.

It is true there is a lot of duplication on Now TV, but that isn't the point. The point is that it would allow you to stick with Virgin while also accessing Sky Atlantic.

Of course if you don't want to pay for duplicated services in this way, you could just move over to Sky, but that option is already available.

I am reasonably content to pay the extra €6.99 to get Sky Atlantic while remaining with Virgin.

I think old boy, that is the bit we are all struggling with and one very few will find consensus with

muppetman11

20-10-2015 16:17

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35804254)

If that is the case, it's a shame.

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I' m kind of struggling with the reason for the confusion here.

If I am a good customer of VM's with the XL pack and I also want Sky Atlantic, VM could help me by providing the ability to get Now TV on my box.

As it happens, I've had to buy a Roku stick to do just that.

It is true there is a lot of duplication on Now TV, but that isn't the point. The point is that it would allow you to stick with Virgin while also accessing Sky Atlantic.

Of course if you don't want to pay for duplicated services in this way, you could just move over to Sky, but that option is already available.

I am reasonably content to pay the extra €6.99 to get Sky Atlantic while remaining with Virgin.

It's simple to understand adding Now TV to Virgin Tivo benefits neither Sky or VM , VM already sells the bulk of Sky's content both linear and catch up in its packages why would it want it's customers having a direct customer relationship with Now TV (Sky).

Sky also makes money through wholesale deals for it's channels on VM , Now TV is a product aimed generally at Freeview homes for those users who don't want long term contracts.

passingbat

20-10-2015 17:10

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35804254)

I am reasonably content to pay the extra €6.99 to get Sky Atlantic while remaining with Virgin.

You'd be better off buying the 3 month Entertainment passes for £14.99 (often available for less) and use it with your Roku stick.

OLD BOY

20-10-2015 19:59

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35804269)

You'd be better off buying the 3 month Entertainment passes for £14.99 (often available for less) and use it with your Roku stick.

Thanks for that tip, PB.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35804259)

It benefits VM because it lessens the desire by some to go over to Sky and it benefits Sky, who get additional income.

Additionally, if VM could boast a whole range of streaming services via its TIVO box, that would act as VM's unique selling point.

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Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35804258)

I think old boy, that is the bit we are all struggling with and one very few will find consensus with

I'm by no means the only VM customer who subscribes to Now TV!

Aguero9320

20-10-2015 22:18

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35804101)

We have seen rumours that TruTV is asking too much for two channels.

We feel that Virgin Media UK are doing things the Telewest way.

-Look to us that Virgin Media UK are paying Sony two times per month (One for True channels and Tiny Pop and an other one for Sony TV UK).
-Wait until the broadcaster deal is up.
-Tell broadcast "Heres £X per month" for channel Z.

This post is just Media Boy HQ views.

We have been told something will happen on TiVo by next years Summer Olympics.

I bet it is the remaining +1's or shopping and news channels. Nothing exciting to see here, folks; move along!

theone2k10

20-10-2015 22:20

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Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35804329)

I bet it is the remaining +1's or shopping and news channels. Nothing exciting to see here, folks; move along!

It will be additional streams for the Olympics.

japitts

20-10-2015 23:19

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35804245)

They throw in a few additional channels from TV L to TV XL, but it is mainly the additional decent HD channels that is the difference.

To be fair, there's also Music-On-Demand being inclusive rather than pay-per-use.

1andrew1

20-10-2015 23:47

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35804177)

It's also been suggested that it's used by the former UPC (now Virgin Media) part of Southern Island for their cable service.

Whoever suggested that should have checked to see if AMC is available in Ireland. It's not on any platform there.

RichardCoulter

21-10-2015 02:34

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35804363)

Whoever suggested that should have checked to see if AMC is available in Ireland. It's not on any platform there.

Thanks- it can't be for that then. theone2k10 did say earlier that he thinks it's actually a feed for Sky.

DaMac

21-10-2015 12:50

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Or a feed for Virgin to pipe on the back end to BT servers.

mike_gain

21-10-2015 15:22

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Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35804258)

I think old boy, that is the bit we are all struggling with and one very few will find consensus with

I'm not so sure about that. Plenty of VM customers will have purchased ad Now TV box or have access to Now TV but will not necessarily be paying the subs every month, rather dipping in and out. I'm more than happy to pay the monthly subscription for the duration of the series I want to watch.

That said I doubt that Now TV will make it's way to Tivo. Having it on Tivo is unlikely to be a reason for customer retention. In fact I'd bet that more people would ditch VM for Now TV/Freeview combo that would be convinced to stay.

As for Now TV themselves (ok Sky) there aren't really any disadvantages other than having to share a platform with Netflix but they wouldd have a development and support cost to consider. Would it be worth it to them? Only they will know but my guess is that until it becomes a worthwhile investment Now TV will not be coming to TiVo.

OLD BOY

21-10-2015 17:00

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Originally Posted by mike_gain (Post 35804423)

That option exists already.

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Originally Posted by mike_gain (Post 35804423)

As for Now TV themselves (ok Sky) there aren't really any disadvantages other than having to share a platform with Netflix but they would have a development and support cost to consider. Would it be worth it to them? Only they will know but my guess is that until it becomes a worthwhile investment Now TV will not be coming to TiVo.

It would be worth it to Sky if the subscriptions they received outweighed the set up and maintenance costs, which of course they would. If it is worth it to have Now TV on the Roku, why not on the Tivo?

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