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Jimi 23-04-2014 22:56

Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 
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Originally Posted by Mr Pharmacist (Post 35691871)
That's about 6 months old jimi, and it doesn't seem to include some very important responses that have been given to some of Salmonds pipe dreams. Strange that.... And as usual, it falls down quicker than a tarts knickers. How are your knickers today? Still twisted?

Surely you meant tartan knickers,mibbee not.
Anyway,here is an updated link,don't say I'm not good tae ye laddie.

http://www.scotreferendum.com/questions-and-answers/

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35691876)
I am not doubting anything. I know and they aren't all the answers. That page is nothing new. It references keeping the £ and also the Bank of England. Which we know won't happen.

Those questions and answers are pretty much what was in the white paper.

If I was ever considering a Yes vote, reading that page would have swayed my vote to a No.

Well,please yersel Stephen,if you want tae be a unionist loving Celtic fan then be my guest.
I'm pretty certain you post on the same Celtic forum as I do so you will know how high the poll is.

Stephen 23-04-2014 23:09

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Why are you trying to type with a Scottish accent still. We know you are English.

What's wrong with wanting the Uk to continue and being a Celtic fan?

Mr Pharmacist 24-04-2014 11:03

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The question and answer to "Will we keep the pound?" is well hidden. It's not even in the top ten questions!. Good job there's a search function, though you'll have to be more exact than "Will we keep the pound?" as well. I'm impressed that valuable time and resources haven't been wasted on the answer, as being question 40 out of 40 in one of the sections, it's obviously not a worry for anyone. It's still all promises though jimi. Wishful thinking instead of actual proof.

Chris 24-04-2014 11:07

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Looks like the seps' plan to co-opt the youth vote is backfiring.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...26000792_n.jpg

Derek 24-04-2014 11:25

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I think what frightens me most is some Scots actually think people like Tommy Sheridan are credible politicians with workable ideas rather than just a lying sex pest. Up till now the crackpots have been a minor nuisance in the rare occasions they get a decent vote.

If Salmond manages to pull off a Mugabe-esque victory there is a danger these half wits might get some actual real power.

Chris 24-04-2014 11:40

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Your archetypal sep is an angry, working class white man in his 50s or 60s.

Mr Pharmacist 24-04-2014 11:52

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Cynical, pompous Alex Salmond has no sense of shame. http://www.express.co.uk/scotland/47...sense-of-shame

Stuart 24-04-2014 13:18

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Originally Posted by Jimi (Post 35691627)
Actual info,you mean like this article from the Daily Express,maybe one day you'll wake up and see the bigger picture,but I seriously doubt it tbh.
Neighbours,aye right.

Think of it this way. The UK was at war. We were running dangerously low on supplies, and could not maintain an adequate fighting force. In fact, a relative who fought said that the rumours around at the time that the US joined the war were that the UK had around two weeks of provisions left. The US bought a lot of equipment and provisions with them. Without that, we would likely have been forced into a surrender. This may be why Churchill was being advised to let Scotland go. They may have been hoping the US would bring more supplies, but planning what to do in case they didn't.

It's also a fact that during a war, you sometimes have to sacrifice parts of an entity to save the whole entity. After all, had we given up Scotland, we would still have been around to fight to get it back later, when we had built up more resources to fight with.

Of course, I do not know whether we would have done that, although I'd be surprised if Churchill would have allowed the Nazis to set up camp and not fought back.

To bring this post on topic, I am curious to see how the Yes campaign are going to finance an independent Scotland. From what I can see, their plans seem to be mainly financed by North Sea Oil. Admittedly, at the moment, this is a good source of income. But, NSO is not infinite, and according to the telegraph, production is already slowing.

Qtx 24-04-2014 13:48

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Either way I get to keep the family tartan and coat of arms/crest, which features two fingers being stuck up :D

Taf 24-04-2014 13:54

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If they go independant does that mean we can kick out Iain Duncan Smith before he does any more damage in the UK? Him and all the other Scottish-born politicians down here?

Pierre 24-04-2014 14:00

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35692058)
But, NSO is not infinite, and according to the telegraph, production is already slowing.

http://subseaworldnews.com/2014/04/2...ly-recognised/

Down 40% in the last three years and back to levels last seen in the 1970's

But don't worry this will finance all of Scotlands wish list I'm sure.

Someone needs to tell Fat Al, but I'm sure the shortfall can be made up by Sheep and Highland cattle.

Osem 24-04-2014 14:02

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35692019)
Your archetypal sep is an angry, working class white man in his 50s or 60s.

Is he English too? :D

Chris 24-04-2014 15:23

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35692058)
Think of it this way. The UK was at war. We were running dangerously low on supplies, and could not maintain an adequate fighting force. In fact, a relative who fought said that the rumours around at the time that the US joined the war were that the UK had around two weeks of provisions left. The US bought a lot of equipment and provisions with them. Without that, we would likely have been forced into a surrender. This may be why Churchill was being advised to let Scotland go. They may have been hoping the US would bring more supplies, but planning what to do in case they didn't.

It's also a fact that during a war, you sometimes have to sacrifice parts of an entity to save the whole entity. After all, had we given up Scotland, we would still have been around to fight to get it back later, when we had built up more resources to fight with.

Of course, I do not know whether we would have done that, although I'd be surprised if Churchill would have allowed the Nazis to set up camp and not fought back.

To bring this post on topic, I am curious to see how the Yes campaign are going to finance an independent Scotland. From what I can see, their plans seem to be mainly financed by North Sea Oil. Admittedly, at the moment, this is a good source of income. But, NSO is not infinite, and according to the telegraph, production is already slowing.

Funnily enough the channel islanders don't have a massive chip on their shoulder over the UK not defending them when the Germans came a-knocking. But then the channel islanders are not known for their well-cultivated sense of grievance.

richard s 24-04-2014 15:35

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35692078)
If they go independant does that mean we can kick out Iain Duncan Smith before he does any more damage in the UK? Him and all the other Scottish-born politicians down here?


Absolutely right Taf and he wants to take the rest with him.

Derek 24-04-2014 15:41

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35692078)
If they go independant does that mean we can kick out Iain Duncan Smith before he does any more damage in the UK? Him and all the other Scottish-born politicians down here?

Erm you do realise that he's an MP for an English constituency don't you?

Unless of course you are advocating only people born in a country can ever be in its government.


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