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1andrew1 14-10-2019 21:19
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Good to see that the Queen is wise enough not to state definitively that the UK is leaving on 31 October. Sensibly, she just stated “My government’s priority has always been to secure the United Kingdom’s departure from the European Union on October 31.”

pip08456 14-10-2019 21:33
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36013919)
Good to see that the Queen is wise enough not to state definitively that the UK is leaving on 31 October. Sensibly, she just stated “My government’s priority has always been to secure the United Kingdom’s departure from the European Union on October 31.”
That would not be in the Queen's remit.

Mr K 15-10-2019 08:43
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That would not be in the Queen's remit.
More moderate than other language that's been used suspect the Palace had an input. Saying you will leave on 31/10 implies breaking the law, saying it's a 'priority' takes it down a peg.

Does seem he is desperate to leave on 31/10 no matter what concessions it takes. It's all about Boris and the next election, not Brexit. What's laughable are the Brexiteers saying they will now support, not knowing what all those concessions are, and having voted against similar proposals from TM! Seems they've realised that any deal is better than no deal after all. Still leaves us worse off than we are now, but common sense left the debate long ago.

papa smurf 15-10-2019 09:08
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36013949)
More moderate than other language that's been used suspect the Palace had an input. Saying you will leave on 31/10 implies breaking the law, saying it's a 'priority' takes it down a peg.

Does seem he is desperate to leave on 31/10 no matter what concessions it takes. It's all about Boris and the next election, not Brexit. What's laughable are the Brexiteers saying they will now support, not knowing what all those concessions are, and having voted against similar proposals from TM! Seems they've realised that any deal is better than no deal after all. Still leaves us worse off than we are now, but common sense left the debate long ago.
It says leaving on the 31/10 takes priority over a deal to me.

Sephiroth 15-10-2019 19:08
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Look how quiet this thread's gone - even while they are trying to get the legal text of an agreement done this evening.

pip08456 15-10-2019 19:15
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Look how quiet this thread's gone - even while they are trying to get the legal text of an agreement done this evening.
I noticed that too Seph.

denphone 15-10-2019 19:24
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I noticed that too Seph.
l always say one must not run before one can walk pip.;)

Mr K 15-10-2019 19:42
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If it's as rumoured that Bozza has accepted a border in the Irish sea, then that's a EU proposal that even TM rejected . He's succeeded in getting a worse deal than the one he voted against !

Sephiroth 15-10-2019 20:03
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If it's as rumoured that Bozza has accepted a border in the Irish sea, then that's a EU proposal that even TM rejected . He's succeeded in getting a worse deal than the one he voted against !
Have you got anything constructive to say? Like it's a last chance for Parliament to get its act together and deliver the Referendum result?

Mr K 15-10-2019 20:09
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Have you got anything constructive to say? Like it's a last chance for Parliament to get its act together and deliver the Referendum result?
Seems you've just realised that Bozza has done you up like a (U)kipper over Brexit :D

As for something constructive, how about the public having a final say over any closed door deal he does come up with ? Be nice to know what we're actually voting for, for a change.

papa smurf 15-10-2019 20:11
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36014021)
Seems you've just realised that Bozza has done you up like a (U)kipper over Brexit :D

As for something constructive, how about the public having a final say over any closed door deal he does come up with ? Be nice to know what we're actually voting for, for a change.
You wouldn't know what you were voting for.

nomadking 15-10-2019 20:18
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If it's as rumoured that Bozza has accepted a border in the Irish sea, then that's a EU proposal that even TM rejected . He's succeeded in getting a worse deal than the one he voted against !
How was May's plan of handing over control of more of the UK, ie GB as well as NI, for all eternity, a better "deal"?


Where else in the world is a non-EU country expected to collect tariffs on behalf of the EU? Is the US expected to? Is China expected to? Is the EU going to reciprocate and collect tariffs on behalf of the UK, regardless of where the goods end up? Who is going to pay for all the extra costs? The EU currently "pays" individual EU countries for collecting EU tariffs. Will that be extended?

Damien 15-10-2019 20:18
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So we're heading for a deal with the 'not a backstop' backstop in the Irish Sea eh?

Mr K 15-10-2019 20:21
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So we're heading for a deal with the 'not a backstop' backstop in the Irish Sea eh?
Suggest we call it a 'fail safe' ;)

Hugh 15-10-2019 20:30
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Look how quiet this thread's gone - even while they are trying to get the legal text of an agreement done this evening.
Well, it’s for new developments, and there haven’t been any - just rumours and hearsay.


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