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Mobes 11-06-2009 12:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 34812053)
Virgin Haven't lied. They have given rough dates as to when they expected to be able to announce/launch some HD channels.

However as anyone with a good understanding of how business deals are done, they need to agree contractual terms and such. Now if the companies they are dealing with cause problems or something happens then the deals can take longer.

So there is no point in VM stating an actual date where as giving a rough idea of the month/season is better if there are delays in signing contracts.

Yes they have! They were not "rough dates".They said we will have HD channles at certain times and nowt happend.

Anyone with "a good understanding of how business deals are done" shouldn't publicly announce 2nd 1/4 HD channels or summer HD channels B4 "contractual terms and such" are finalised!!!!

They said one thing and then have renaiged on it... whatever spin you put on it Stephen, they were unrtuths, lies blah blah blah.

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Originally Posted by Nook29 (Post 34812064)
If the twitter guys are to be believed, the contracts aren't done yet, hence why there has been no announcement.

But there have been announcements... and they have backtracked on them... thats the point!

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P.s Sky have announced next year there will be Sky News HD... one more to add to the list lol...

Nook29 11-06-2009 12:14

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
They've so far backtracked on one announcement. If they've had difficulties making deals, then it isn't entirely their fault.

Sky News HD eh? I sure hope we get that! [/sarcasm]

Stephen 11-06-2009 12:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34812120)
Yes they have! They were not "rough dates".They said we will have HD channles at certain times and nowt happend.

Anyone with "a good understanding of how business deals are done" shouldn't publicly announce 2nd 1/4 HD channels or summer HD channels B4 "contractual terms and such" are finalised!!!!

They said one thing and then have renaiged on it... whatever spin you put on it Stephen, they were unrtuths, lies blah blah blah.

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But there have been announcements... and they have backtracked on them... thats the point!

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P.s Sky have announced next year there will be Sky News HD... one more to add to the list lol...

Not at all, they haven't gone back on anything.

They simply said that they have 5/6 HD channels coming and mentioned a season they never actually stated they could come on a certain date.

There has been no renaiging or back tracking. They gave a rough time frame for the channels and then that changed because of whatever reasons. So they gave a new estimate as to the date.

You would still be moaning if they simply said nothing at all. They are just trying to let customers know that HD channels are coming and they expect to have the deal sorted by that time. Now its not their fault if things do take longer. In business delays can happen.

At the end of the day its only a few TV channels, its not the end of the world if they take longer. I am sure there are bigger things in life to be worrying about than VM gettting HD.

Mobes 11-06-2009 12:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
WHAT??? Read back on this very thread mate and have a read. Have you not been about on it much?? VM have said a couple of times we plan to get HD channels @ A B C times and didn't. Not sure where you've been Stephen!!!

Estimates LOL... you should be a politician! Spin spin spin.

VM were always within their rights to say "Look we're working on getting HD. We're in negotiations but it's going to take time. Please don't think we're not trying becaus we are." - fine... but that's not what they've done.

What they HAVE done (and these are not opinions Stephen they are facts) is told us dates (estimated or otherwise - not forgetting the now infamous "Coming Soon") BEFORE negotiations were completed on when HD would come. These dates have encompassed the last 9 months or so.. and they've had to backtrack each time- how bloody stupid!!

And it's not about there being "bigger things in life" of course there are. I'm not fretting every night over it. I'm purly commentating on a message board on a company who have right royally cocked up over it's HD policy...

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Originally Posted by Nook29 (Post 34812125)

Sky News HD eh? I sure hope we get that! [/sarcasm]

LOL i know... hardly my priority either but it's just one more to add to our...well..1...

Andrewcrawford23 11-06-2009 13:06

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34812160)
WHAT??? Read back on this very thread mate and have a read. Have you not been about on it much?? VM have said a couple of times we plan to get HD channels @ A B C times and didn't. Not sure where you've been Stephen!!!

Estimates LOL... you should be a politician! Spin spin spin.

VM were always within their rights to say "Look we're working on getting HD. We're in negotiations but it's going to take time. Please don't think we're not trying becaus we are." - fine... but that's not what they've done.

What they HAVE done (and these are not opinions Stephen they are facts) is told us dates (estimated or otherwise - not forgetting the now infamous "Coming Soon") BEFORE negotiations were completed on when HD would come. These dates have encompassed the last 9 months or so.. and they've had to backtrack each time- how bloody stupid!!

And it's not about there being "bigger things in life" of course there are. I'm not fretting every night over it. I'm purly commentating on a message board on a company who have right royally cocked up over it's HD policy...

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LOL i know... hardly my priority either but it's just one more to add to our...well..1...

See if you are going to say what is facts you should say all the facts, it only been 6 months that they have been saying they are trying ot get hd channels not 9 months. they have onyl failed on 1 annoucment 1st quarter the other was was for about july and the last tiem i checked it is not july they might still get the contracts done in time, but they have said they think it is autum now.

(i am not saying you are wrong about them saying things without being sure but you are takign things well out of portion as stephen said there more to life than a hd channel)

Stephen 11-06-2009 13:19

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 34812160)
WHAT??? Read back on this very thread mate and have a read. Have you not been about on it much?? VM have said a couple of times we plan to get HD channels @ A B C times and didn't. Not sure where you've been Stephen!!!

VM were always within their rights to say "Look we're working on getting HD. We're in negotiations but it's going to take time. Please don't think we're not trying becaus we are." - fine... but that's not what they've done.

What they HAVE done (and these are not opinions Stephen they are facts) is told us dates (estimated or otherwise - not forgetting the now infamous "Coming Soon") BEFORE negotiations were completed on when HD would come. These dates have encompassed the last 9 months or so.. and they've had to backtrack each time- how bloody stupid!!

What they said was Q1 2009, Summer and now autumn. To me they are estimates as they are not actually giving a date, ie 26th July! They each cover a period of months. How have they back tracked?

I have been at work that's where I have been.

Many business' give these sort of rough dates when announcing new products and stuff and delays happen and things take longer, its no big deal.

Is it just because its VM that everyone is kicking up a fuss?

Mobes 11-06-2009 14:04

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
No it's because on THIS issue they have been inept.

As i have said previoulsy i have never had any problems with them B4... they've always been a great company...

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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34812170)
(i am not saying you are wrong about them saying things without being sure but you are takign things well out of portion as stephen said there more to life than a hd channel)

I've already answered that part!

kesterwww 11-06-2009 17:19

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
I very much agree with Mobes on these issues.
To say "There's more to life than HD" is a complete cop out. I find it hard to see how anyone who is keen to get more HD channels without having to change to a different provider could be anything but hacked off with VM's failier to deliver.
I may not have a great understanding of how business deals are done, but I understand that companys tell the customers what they want to hear. And to me, it certainly appears that is what VM are doing on this subject. I may be wrong about this, but it does seem that way.

Nook29 11-06-2009 17:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
People will have a much bigger cause for complaint if by the end of Autumn there's nothing new. Until then, they haven't yet gone back on their second promise.

Mobes 11-06-2009 17:48

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Before this new Autumn date i'm pretty sure i read that they said it would be This Summer..

Thats not to mention the whole "Coming Soon" debacle that's been at least 9 months, no Andrew? It certainly feels that long if not a darn site longer LOL

Nook29 11-06-2009 17:52

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Well the VM twitter guys keep saying Autumn time.

Mobes 11-06-2009 18:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Why does it come to mind that the word "twitter" is a very good description when it comes to VM telling us about HD?? ;)

devilincarnate 11-06-2009 18:39

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
hey have only posted once on this forum before and have been searching the net and have come across this and could this be one of the things that they have been talking about coming soon to vm

http://arstechnica.com/media/news/20...aunch-epix.ars

either i could be wrong or there is something about this ?

Nook29 11-06-2009 18:51

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
No word of that Epix service coming to the UK, seems like a US only thing so far.

devilincarnate 11-06-2009 19:09

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
it says that they are in talks with cable operators and satalite companies so when vm say that they are in talks who knows but i have only been a vm customer for 4 months and i have to say thet that service is better than sky


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