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Chris 24-03-2021 23:14
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36075217)
Or was it an attempt to sell them to the RN?
Quite possibly. Their mission availability problems are in part due to the low numbers of them in use. Fewer spares, higher cost. If the British military bought significant numbers of them it would make life easier for the US. I guess it’s still very early days for the QE carriers so plenty of time for the RN to decide if they want to ask the MOD to buy some. But I suspect that metaphorical ship has sailed - AEW is the sort of thing that drones ought to be able to do and when the navy is ready to consider swapping out their helicopters for drones I think they will find it possible to install a system capable of launching and retrieving them from their carriers.

pip08456 24-03-2021 23:46
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36075218)
Quite possibly. Their mission availability problems are in part due to the low numbers of them in use. Fewer spares, higher cost. If the British military bought significant numbers of them it would make life easier for the US. I guess it’s still very early days for the QE carriers so plenty of time for the RN to decide if they want to ask the MOD to buy some. But I suspect that metaphorical ship has sailed - AEW is the sort of thing that drones ought to be able to do and when the navy is ready to consider swapping out their helicopters for drones I think they will find it possible to install a system capable of launching and retrieving them from their carriers.
Agreed. I think the RN will just continue to depoy forces (we have so few now) via helicopter where neccessary.

Chris 06-04-2021 14:30
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Well would you believe it ... two Ospreys in close formation, flying very low and heading north, right over my house. :D So low I didn't hear them until I saw them, so no time to grab my camera unfortunately.

Hugh 06-04-2021 20:55
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Well would you believe it ... two Ospreys in close formation, flying very low and heading north, right over my house. :D So low I didn't hear them until I saw them, so no time to grab my camera unfortunately.
https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-an...f5umCVyG-yr54w

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Royal Marines rely on the Merlin Mk4 to carry 24 commandos into battle at a time (based a short distance from Portland at RNAS Yeovilton with 845 and 846 Naval Air Squadrons).

The Osprey has a similar capacity (at a push you can squeeze an extra eight troops in the cabin), but can fly higher, further, faster than a helicopter, plus thanks to its tiltrotor design, can land in and take-off from the tight spots.

It flew into Dorset from RAF Mildenhall in Suffolk, making use of the HeliOperations training facility in Portland – which occupies part of the old HMS Osprey site – as a lily pad (support/refuelling etc) while working with Mounts Bay.

Chris 06-04-2021 23:46
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Someone should tell the USMC they’re about 500 miles off course. They spent about an hour going up and down Loch Lomond this afternoon, at an altitude of around 100 metres, presumably wondering why they couldn’t find a ship to land on. :D

heero_yuy 23-04-2021 11:07
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Quote from The Sun: A US military helicopter has destroyed a hospital's helipad - stopping air ambulances with critically ill patients from landing.

The £50m USAF Boeing Osprey helicopter - which features tilt rotors - had landed at Addenbrooke's Hospital, Cambridge, on Wednesday during a training exercise.

Dramatic footage filmed on Wednesday shows the huge Bell Boeing CV22B Osprey coming in to land on the helipad.

The USAF plane rested on the ground for a few moments, before getting ready to take off again.

But just as it began to leave the helipad, the whole structure was torn apart, seemingly by the force of the helicopter's propellors - with huge chunks of debris flying into the air.

It has left the helipad unuseable - with air ambulance patients now having to be dropped off at Cambridge City Airport, three miles away, and transferred to the hospital by ambulance.
Full story, video and stills on link above.

Cobbydaler 23-04-2021 22:03
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Gloster Meteor, Southport Airshow 2012.

My pics.

pip08456 23-04-2021 22:45
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36077754)
Full story, video and stills on link above.
Bit of an exaggeration. If it takes longer than a few hours to lay that carpeting back down there's something wrong.

Hom3r 24-04-2021 12:52
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Bit of an exaggeration. If it takes longer than a few hours to lay that carpeting back down there's something wrong.

It can take days for several reasons. (based on my 15 years in aviation and some understanding of how slow the cogs move)

1. They will need to clear the ground and ensure all previous material is removed, including the tie downs.

2. They will need to check and replace the stuff blown away

3. There could be a lead time for the material

4. They will need to lay and tie down the new pad.

5. It will need to be tested and certified (this step alone could take a few days)

Hugh 24-04-2021 13:41
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Yup - FOD can be sub-optimal.

Hom3r 26-04-2021 13:47
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I have seen an engine blade from a BAe-146-300 that was involved in a bird strike.

The blade had a 2/3 mm dent, this required that blade and the one directly opposite as they are balanced.

If a small bird did that damage you can guess what metal can do.

GrimUpNorth 27-04-2021 21:10
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36077974)
I have seen an engine blade from a BAe-146-300 that was involved in a bird strike.

The blade had a 2/3 mm dent, this required that blade and the one directly opposite as they are balanced.

If a small bird did that damage you can guess what metal can do.
I was on the apron at Leeds Bradford many years ago when a Hawk did an emergency landing after a bird strike. The instructor looked completed unflustered while the young lad he was training was pretty pale and looked like he could do with a change of underwear. There was a very strong KFC type smell coming from the aircraft.

Julian 04-06-2021 18:48
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Activity increasing down here in advance of the G7 get together next week.

A little while ago a USAF C17 flew over and landed in Newquay from Mannheim.

Then just now a trio of Hercules from US Navy and USAF went over headed East.

Hugh 05-06-2021 00:17
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I wonder if the C17 had “The Beast" in it?

Chris 05-06-2021 10:25
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No, he lives in Florida now. :D


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