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Dingbat 24-02-2026 12:32

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
MPS have visited Chagos before, but they went through the correct Foreign Office and MOD channels to get security clearance and permission, and flew in on an RAF aircraft.

They didn’t turn up on spec with a camera in hand, knowing they’d be turned away just so they could play the victim.

Hugh 24-02-2026 13:14

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211168)
If his Maldives trip was a benefit, then surely he'd declare it. He might declare it anyway. So what's the problem?

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any benefit they receive, which someone else might reasonably consider to influence what they say or do as an MP.
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you...

If you believe millionaires/corporates pay someone 11k per hour or provide a private jet for a publicity stunt, and don't expect anything in return, I've got a bridge you might want to buy (or some magic beans...)

Sephiroth 24-02-2026 13:28

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211182)
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you...

If you believe millionaires/corporates pay someone 11k per hour or provide a private jet for a publicity stunt, and don't expect anything in return, I've got a bridge you might want to buy (or some magic beans...)

Your non-objective analysis does you no credit. You quoted:

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any benefit they receive, which someone else might reasonably consider to influence what they say or do as an MP.
The "... say or do as an MP ...." is understood to be applied to pecuniary matters where the MP benefits. Whilst I cannot deny the possibility of his activity being a political stunt, the political activity in which he engaged is valid and in the public interest.

Just because you don't like Farage ....



Hugh 24-02-2026 18:15

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
So why would someone hire him a private jet for a day trip to the Maldives?


What's in it for them?


Paying someone £11k an hour for four hours work a month would seem like a fairly large pecuniary advantage to most people, and because he is not yet in a position to "repay" the largesse, doesn't rule out the possibility of the favour being "banked".

Can you provide any reasoning why someone would pay anyone £11k per hour, and not expect anything in return?

Sephiroth 24-02-2026 20:50

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
I refer you to my reply of 10:02.

Hugh 24-02-2026 21:59

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211219)
I refer you to my reply of 10:02.

Which paraphrased Farage when questioned about this sort of thing…

<cough, cough, nothing to see here, move along - no, no, let me finish (without actually saying anything>

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He might declare it anyway. So what's the problem?
No "might" about it, otherwise he’ll be doing an Owen Paterson.

Anyhoo, back to my (oft repeated) question - what benefit is NF bringing to a company* that they are willing to pay him £11,000 per hour, every three months…

*a company, which, last year, had assets of £2.6 million, but this year has paid NF £226k (nearly 8% of their net assets)

Sephiroth 24-02-2026 22:04

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211227)
Which paraphrased Farage when questioned about this sort of thing…

<cough, cough, nothing to see here, move along - no, no, let me finish (without actually saying anything>



No "might" about it, otherwise he’ll be doing an Owen Paterson.

Anyhoo, back to my (oft repeated) question - what benefit is NF bringing to a company* that they are willing to pay him £11,000 per hour, every three months…

*a company, which, last year, had assets of £2.6 million, but this year has paid NF £226k (nearly 8% of their net assets)

Absolutely no idea. Maybe necessary to await anything Farage puts into the Register of Interests.

Hugh 24-02-2026 22:14

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211228)
Absolutely no idea. Maybe necessary to await anything Farage puts into the Register of Interests.

Not really, as he has already declared the earnings from Direct Bullion (on Companies House as DB LONDON LTD, with only one Officer).

Pretty sure if you found out Keir Starmer was getting paid £11k per hour to be a Brand Ambassador for a company working out of a Serviced Office/Coworking Space, you wouldn’t be so blasé…

Sephiroth 24-02-2026 22:22

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36211229)
Not really, as he has already declared the earnings from Direct Bullion (on Companies House as DB LONDON LTD, with only one Officer).

Pretty sure if you found out Keir Starmer was getting paid £11k per hour to be a Brand Ambassador for a company working out of a Serviced Office/Coworking Space, you wouldn’t be so blasé…

Starmer's doing enough damage to the UK - and very openly.

The only thing you've got on Farage is to watch what he declares in the RoI.

papa smurf 24-02-2026 23:05

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211230)
Starmer's doing enough damage to the UK - and very openly.

The only thing you've got on Farage is to watch what he declares in the RoI.

isn't that the thing that starmer keeps "forgetting" to update

Sephiroth 24-02-2026 23:15

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36211231)
isn't that the thing that starmer keeps "forgetting" to update

Starmer's prolly got nothing to declare now because who'd have him?

1andrew1 25-02-2026 09:58

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211230)
Starmer's doing enough damage to the UK - and very openly.

The only thing you've got on Farage is to watch what he declares in the RoI.

Farage has manage to do more damage to the UK whilst in opposition than even Starmer has achieved whilst in power. Hopefully, the British public will see this by the time the next election comes about.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36211232)
Starmer's prolly got nothing to declare now because who'd have him?

True :D

Failed Conservative politicians go to Reform if Reform are gracious enough to accept them. Where do failed Labour ones go? Reform was hyping up some important Labour figures joining the Party last month but I don't think anything came of that.

Carth 25-02-2026 10:54

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
It's getting to be a lot like the football, get rid of a manager for being crap and then immediately hire a manager that someone sacked last week for being crap.

End of the day it's all snouts in troughs, no matter what colour the trough is

Sephiroth 25-02-2026 11:13

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36211237)
Farage has manage to do more damage to the UK whilst in opposition than even Starmer has achieved whilst in power. Hopefully, the British public will see this by the time the next election comes about.

---------- Post added at 08:58 ---------- Previous post was at 08:53 ----------


True :D

Failed Conservative politicians go to Reform if Reform are gracious enough to accept them. Where do failed Labour ones go? Reform was hyping up some important Labour figures joining the Party last month but I don't think anything came of that.


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Hopefully, the British public will see this [Farage] by the time the next election comes about.
Tomorrow's by-election? That'll be fun.

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Failed Conservative politicians go to Reform if Reform are gracious enough to accept them. Where do failed Labour ones go? Reform was hyping up some important Labour figures joining the Party last month but I don't think anything came of that.
Good point! Indeed, excellent paragraph.


papa smurf 25-02-2026 11:24

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36211237)
Farage has manage to do more damage to the UK whilst in opposition than even Starmer has achieved whilst in power. Hopefully, the British public will see this by the time the next election comes about.

---------- Post added at 08:58 ---------- Previous post was at 08:53 ----------


True :D

Failed Conservative politicians go to Reform if Reform are gracious enough to accept them. Where do failed Labour ones go? Reform was hyping up some important Labour figures joining the Party last month but I don't think anything came of that.



what has he done ?


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