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1andrew1 13-05-2022 15:21
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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36122254)
for the traditional viewer which is non-Disney and non-scifi having quality series like those is a great way to provide quality content and a bit of something for everyone outside of Lucasfilm and Marvel.
Agreed. It makes Disney+ a more all-round service and more of a substitute for Now TV.

TimeLord2018 13-05-2022 15:52
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It will continue, Homeland (20th Television) was removed from Netflix in multiple regions in January
https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/lea...-january-2022/

The UK license with Netflix doesn't appear to have expired yet ,probably isn't far away as they would probably of ended it early.

Other shows like American Crime Story, Pose , American Horror Story , Sons Of Anarchy , Prison Break were removed from Netflix UK this year

OLD BOY 13-05-2022 18:05
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36122251)
ABC is a Disney-owned channel, not a Comcast-owned channel. The days of when Sky was the first choice UK broadcaster for US content seem to be diminishing since the launch of Disney+. I suspect the difference will become more stark if as expected, HBO Max launches in the UK in 2025.

Providing the licence with Sky has ended or Disney is happy to pay Sky compensation for early termination, then Disney can move its content to Disney +. Apparently, it paid TV platforms $1bn as early termination compensation in its latest accounts.

I imagine all box series from Fox/Hulu/Disney will move to Disney+ in time with only films and pay-per-episode available on other platforms.
And all this is a good indicator that the TV channels are ultimately doomed. Only those making a shedload of their own content will have any chance of survival. But even they are relying more and more on streaming solutions to address these issues.

jfman 13-05-2022 18:27
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And all this is a good indicator that the TV channels are ultimately doomed. Only those making a shedload of their own content will have any chance of survival. But even they are relying more and more on streaming solutions to address these issues.
You’re assuming content owners view channels in the arbitrary binary manner you do, and not complementary to an on demand offering.

TimeLord2018 13-05-2022 18:45
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36122259)
Agreed. It makes Disney+ a more all-round service and more of a substitute for Now TV.
You could argue the same about Paramount+ it's not just Star Trek , all of Showtime current and upcoming dramas apart the Disney owned 'The Chi' will be on this along with the back catalogue content aswell as Paramount+ Originals , there will be probably be other Paramount owned content on it aswell.

General Maximus 13-05-2022 19:10
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And all this is a good indicator that the TV channels are ultimately doomed.
I agree. If streaming services start pulling all their content from channels then the 200+ channels on Sky for example will disappear and it will be whittled down to a few and then you have got to ask yourself if Sky will even to be able to keep up. As they aren't a global platform they won't be able to keep up with producing the volume of original content that streaming services currently do and customers will move to other services which are cheaper and provide more and better quality content.

Will Sky be relegated to the likes of the BBC, have a handful of channels and a streaming service which produces budget domestic programming?

Legendkiller2k 13-05-2022 20:18
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I agree. If streaming services start pulling all their content from channels then the 200+ channels on Sky for example will disappear and it will be whittled down to a few and then you have got to ask yourself if Sky will even to be able to keep up. As they aren't a global platform they won't be able to keep up with producing the volume of original content that streaming services currently do and customers will move to other services which are cheaper and provide more and better quality content.

Will Sky be relegated to the likes of the BBC, have a handful of channels and a streaming service which produces budget domestic programming?
Sky are owned by Comcast who own NBC/Universal also Peacock, although the number of channels will decline Sky will be fine for original content
But sooner or later the streaming bubble will burst, people will not pay for loads of different streaming services.

General Maximus 13-05-2022 20:34
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yeah. You might find companies like Sky end up redefining themselves and serving as a centralised platform for streaming content. You can already access services like Netflix, Prime, Disney+ and Apple on SkyQ and Sky even provide and advertise content from those services as if it were their own.

Streaming services are exploding and there will definitely be a saturation point in what people are willing to pay for. There is a discussion at the moment about the government scraping the BBC license fee altogether and something like that will be a litmus test for whether the BBC can stand on its own two feet or collapse.

In the future I think there will be a handful of content providers analogous to what there is with music now (e.g. Amazon music, Apple, Spotify) and you will pay something like £50/month and have access to everything and the service provider pays a percentage to the producer (e.g. Disney) based on what you watch. The way things are going at the moment just aren't sustainable. You can't pay a license fee, Sky, Netflix, Prime, Apple and Disney just to be able to watch e.g. Stranger Things, Star Trek, Foundation and Marvel plus a random selection of things from Sky.

OLD BOY 14-05-2022 10:47
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36122285)
You’re assuming content owners view channels in the arbitrary binary manner you do, and not complementary to an on demand offering.
I'm assuming nothing. You can see what is happening. All the content that would previously landed on our TV channels is moving over to the streamers. Gradually, there is less and less must-see content on the TV channels.

You seem to be saying that content owners will carry their content on the streamers but also make it available on the broadcast channels. That doesn't appear to be the case generally. Look at the channels that are disappearing from our screens because those very content owners are putting everything exclusively on to their streamers.

Some are at a half-way house, it is true, but this will change. The evidence of which way this is going is plain for all to see.

jfman 14-05-2022 10:51
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Some are at a half-way house, it is true, but this will change. The evidence of which way this is going is plain for all to see.
You've no evidence at all, despite often proclaiming that you do.

Streamers are now becoming a higher cost, lower quality, reduced choice alternative to the platforms they are displacing. Anything you can see will only get slower, not faster, as the market evolves.

Itshim 14-05-2022 16:53
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Yeah, i would think it would be higher than Netflix though. Between Disney, Star Wars and Marvel you would think 80% of people would want it. I think they could easily hit 300 million.
I am in the 20% nothing I would pay for !

muppetman11 14-05-2022 17:47
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I am in the 20% nothing I would pay for !
Ditto

General Maximus 14-05-2022 17:56
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I am in the 20% nothing I would pay for !
Interesting. Disney+ is the first service i would pay for and Apple second.

OLD BOY 14-05-2022 18:53
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You've no evidence at all, despite often proclaiming that you do.

Streamers are now becoming a higher cost, lower quality, reduced choice alternative to the platforms they are displacing. Anything you can see will only get slower, not faster, as the market evolves.
I'm not convinced that you are actually looking at what is happening on the ground. TV channels like Disney channels are rapidly disappearing and many more will follow. How do you explain that, having regard to your TV channel obsession?

Have you actually looked at the linear offerings recently? Hardly anything worth watching, unless of course, your standards are a lot lower than mine.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36122342)
You've no evidence at all, despite often proclaiming that you do.

Streamers are now becoming a higher cost, lower quality, reduced choice alternative to the platforms they are displacing. Anything you can see will only get slower, not faster, as the market evolves.
The evidence is what is happening right in front of your eyes.

I accept that you cannot see this.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36122259)
Agreed. It makes Disney+ a more all-round service and more of a substitute for Now TV.
Disney+ is mainly kids' stuff but the Star brand is increasing content choice. It has a long way to go before adult content is at a sufficient level to attract adults. When they get there, they will give Netflix a run for their money. But they are not there yet.

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36122291)
I agree. If streaming services start pulling all their content from channels then the 200+ channels on Sky for example will disappear and it will be whittled down to a few and then you have got to ask yourself if Sky will even to be able to keep up. As they aren't a global platform they won't be able to keep up with producing the volume of original content that streaming services currently do and customers will move to other services which are cheaper and provide more and better quality content.

Will Sky be relegated to the likes of the BBC, have a handful of channels and a streaming service which produces budget domestic programming?
Forget channels. Sky need to develop a new streamer and fill it with as many originals as they can put forward, supplemented by as much legacy stuff as they can muster.

General Maximus 14-05-2022 19:24
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36122380)
Have you actually looked at the linear offerings recently? Hardly anything worth watching
what about Judge Judy?

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