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Hugh 30-11-2020 11:13

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36060323)
You may have had it already ?

Nope - been tested twice.

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36060327)
No idea who's saying it's 'apparently non-existent, fake' . . . unless you're taking it from my post?

In which case it shows that different people get different meanings from the same 'data' ;)

Nope...

Thinking more of Lozza Fox

papa smurf 30-11-2020 11:22

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36060330)
Nope - been tested twice.

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Nope...

Thinking more of Lozza Fox[

You must be his only follower.

Pierre 30-11-2020 11:52

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36060330)
Nope - been tested twice.

Good, but that only means you hadn’t had it then.............

I’m having a minor surgical procedure done in two weeks and have to be tested on the 10th before I have it. So I’ll find out then!

Mick 30-11-2020 12:06

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36060330)
Nope - been tested twice.

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Nope...

Thinking more of Lozza Fox

Doesn’t matter. If you have had only 2 tests, since March, you could have still have had Covid-19, and not have known about it. Majority of individuals who have got infected, have been asymptomatic, such individuals can carry the virus and show on repeated tests that they are infected for up to six weeks. In my case. I’ve now been tested over 20 times. One result came back positive. I had zero symptoms. I had a follow up test about 4 weeks later, the result came back negative.

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36060339)
Good, but that only means you hadn’t had it then.............

Correct. The tests are a snapshot of a person’s biological infectious state at the time of the test only. A person could have had the test, comes back negative but they were infected on the way home from the test.

Carth 30-11-2020 12:07

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36060340)
<snip> . . Majority of individuals who have got infected, have been asymptomatic, such individuals can carry the virus and show on repeated tests that they are infected for up to six weeks.

Which is slightly alarming considering people who test positive self isolate for a week before returning to work . . . or can't you 'transmit' it after a week?

papa smurf 30-11-2020 12:28

Re: Coronavirus
 
What has happened to the antibody tests. We don't seem to hear anything about them anymore.

BenMcr 30-11-2020 12:38

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36060345)
What has happened to the antibody tests. We don't seem to hear anything about them anymore.

Wonder if that's anything to do with this

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4353

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The UK government delayed the findings of a Public Health England (PHE) study that question the accuracy of a leading covid antibody test just as it was about to announce that it had spent £75m (€84.3m; $99.4m) on buying one million of the tests.

papa smurf 30-11-2020 12:46

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36060346)
Wonder if that's anything to do with this

https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4353

That's an interesting read.

Mick 30-11-2020 13:08

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36060343)
Which is slightly alarming considering people who test positive self isolate for a week before returning to work . . . or can't you 'transmit' it after a week?

There is a 10 day window in which after incubation occurs, a person is most infectious. After which Covid can remain in the body for several more weeks.

denphone 30-11-2020 13:16

Re: Coronavirus
 
More mixed messaging from the government it seems on what counts as a substantial meal in tier 2 pubs.


Quote:

Robert Jenrick(13/10) - A Cornish Pasty with chips & side salad is a substantial meal.

George Eustice(30/11) - A Scotch Egg would probably count as a substantial meal as it can be served as a starter.
https://twitter.com/theousherwood/st...63535276093440

Chris 30-11-2020 13:56

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36060350)
More mixed messaging from the government it seems on what counts as a substantial meal in tier 2 pubs.




https://twitter.com/theousherwood/st...63535276093440

And, away from the twattersphere, what George Eustace actually said:

Quote:

” I think a Scotch egg probably would count as a substantial meal if there were table service.
"Often that might be as a starter but yes I think it would, but this is a term that's understood in licensing... you can have the concept of a table licence for alcohol that also requires you to serve a substantial meal.
Emphasis added by me for the benefit of the hard of thinking. It’s also worth stressing that the restaurant trade understands exactly what the phrase “substantial meal” means because it is integral to certain types of alcohol licence. El Gov is appealing to well-understood concepts in the trade. It’s up to the restaurant owners to follow the rules and to answer to a judge if they don’t. Given the full context of Eustace’s quote it seems unlikely a judge would accept a defence that the restaurant didn’t know what was meant by “substantial meal”.

I think unless you’re a Labour party hack or a second rate political journalist still desperate for new COVID story angles, there really isn’t anything difficult to understand about these rules.

1andrew1 30-11-2020 13:57

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36060350)
More mixed messaging from the government it seems on what counts as a substantial meal in tier 2 pubs.


https://twitter.com/theousherwood/st...63535276093440

Den, I think your first quote should have a "not" in it. ;)

nomadking 30-11-2020 14:02

Re: Coronavirus
 
So much for "firebreaks" working.
Link
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Welsh pubs, restaurants and cafes will be banned from serving alcohol from Friday and will be unable to open to customers beyond 18:00 GMT.
First Minister Mark Drakeford announced the new rules to tackle a rise in coronavirus cases.
Cinemas, bowling alleys, bingo halls, museums and galleries will also need to shut from Friday.

Sephiroth 30-11-2020 14:21

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36060353)
So much for "firebreaks" working.
Link

... and how stupid the application of devolution to Covid has been. What's more, it's being put to cynical political use by that Sturgeon woman.

Hugh 30-11-2020 14:22

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36060340)
Doesn’t matter. If you have had only 2 tests, since March, you could have still have had Covid-19, and not have known about it. Majority of individuals who have got infected, have been asymptomatic, such individuals can carry the virus and show on repeated tests that they are infected for up to six weeks. In my case. I’ve now been tested over 20 times. One result came back positive. I had zero symptoms. I had a follow up test about 4 weeks later, the result came back negative.

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Correct. The tests are a snapshot of a person’s biological infectious state at the time of the test only. A person could have had the test, comes back negative but they were infected on the way home from the test.

My tests were October 24th and November 12th, and I’m having another on on Thursday 3rd December.


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