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Paul 24-03-2020 21:33

Re: Coronavirus
 
Stop fu*king bickering. Last warning.

pip08456 24-03-2020 21:54

Re: Coronavirus
 
Beijing’s roads and restaurants grow crowded, as scientists warn second coronavirus wave is ‘inevitable’..

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/worl...ientists-warn/

jfman 24-03-2020 22:11

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36028830)
Beijing’s roads and restaurants grow crowded, as scientists warn second coronavirus wave is ‘inevitable’..

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/worl...ientists-warn/

Screening and quarantining international arrivals is a good start seeing as Europe is now the epicentre of the virus.

1andrew1 24-03-2020 22:36

Re: Coronavirus
 
New York looks set to overtake Lombard and Madrid as the worst region for CV deaths.

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status...66536071507968

Damien 24-03-2020 22:39

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36028835)
New York looks set to overtake Lombard and Madrid as the worst region for CV deaths.

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status...66536071507968

Things are about to get really bad there and the U.S in general. They've been so poor at reacting to this.

Pierre 24-03-2020 22:42

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36028819)
the chances of getting coronavirus over an infinite period of time is infinitely higher.

I’m not a mathematician, but I’d love to see the output of that equation but I think you’re right.

The probability of contracting CV over infinity, would be infinity, I don’t like those odds.

jfman 24-03-2020 23:08

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36028837)
I’m not a mathematician, but I’d love to see the output of that equation but I think you’re right.

The probability of contracting CV over infinity, would be infinity, I don’t like those odds.

Well, unless the underlying health issues get you first.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36028836)
Things are about to get really bad there and the U.S in general. They've been so poor at reacting to this.

On the plus side we will get to find out if herd immunity works and the human cost of achieving it.

Paul 24-03-2020 23:12

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36028841)
On the plus side we will get to find out if herd immunity works and the human cost of achieving it.

There is no question it works, the only question is what will/would the cost be.

pip08456 24-03-2020 23:20

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36028841)
Well, unless the underlying health issues get you first.

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On the plus side we will get to find out if herd immunity works and the human cost of achieving it.

Hopefully they'll develop a vaccine first.

Hugh 24-03-2020 23:54

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36028844)
Hopefully they'll develop a vaccine first.

Probably 9-18 months for a vaccine

RichardCoulter 25-03-2020 07:21

Re: Coronavirus
 
Claim here that the virus can last up to 17 days outside the human body:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-...KV_zwXHM08BqiY

Maggy 25-03-2020 07:53

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36028855)
Claim here that the virus can last up to 17 days outside the human body:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-...KV_zwXHM08BqiY


Quote:

The RNA, the genetic material of the virus that causes COVID-19, “was identified on a variety of surfaces in cabins of both symptomatic and asymptomatic infected passengers up to 17 days after cabins were vacated on the Diamond Princess but before disinfection procedures had been conducted,” the researchers wrote, adding that the finding doesn’t necessarily mean the virus spread by surface
Shows cleaning is very important..

Pierre 25-03-2020 08:01

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36028855)
Claim here that the virus can last up to 17 days outside the human body:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-...KV_zwXHM08BqiY

Another Red Herring, do you read the story before you post.

at the very bottom of the article is this

Quote:

Correction: This story was updated to reflect that SARS-CoV-2 RNA, not live virus, was identified on surfaces in cruise ship cabins up to 17 days after cabins were vacated on the Diamond Princess.

Hugh 25-03-2020 08:07

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36028855)
Claim here that the virus can last up to 17 days outside the human body:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-...KV_zwXHM08BqiY

No, it doesn’t - at the bottom of the article it states
Quote:

Correction: This story was updated to reflect that SARS-CoV-2 RNA, not live virus, was identified on surfaces in cruise ship cabins up to 17 days after cabins were vacated on the Diamond Princess.
Detection of viral RNA does not necessarily indicate the presence of infectious virus.

To me, the important bit was in the source report

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6912e3_w

Quote:

Among 3,711 Diamond Princess passengers and crew, 712 (19.2%) had positive test results for SARS-CoV-2 (Figure 1). Of these, 331 (46.5%) were asymptomatic at the time of testing. Among 381 symptomatic patients, 37 (9.7%) required intensive care, and nine (1.3%) died.
This shows it doesn’t matter if "you feel fine" - nearly 10% of the passengers on the Diamond Princess didn’t show symptoms at the time of testing, even though they were infected (thus able to infect others).

RichardCoulter 25-03-2020 08:15

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36028858)
No, it doesn’t - at the bottom of the article it states

Detection of viral RNA does not necessarily indicate the presence of infectious virus.

To me, the important bit was in the source report

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...cid=mm6912e3_w



This shows it doesn’t matter if "you feel fine" - nearly 10% of the passengers on the Diamond Princess didn’t show symptoms at the time of testing, even though they were infected (thus able to infect others).

Wow, that is worrying. There will be lots of people with the virus who have no idea they have it.


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