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1andrew1 14-07-2019 22:36

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36002649)

Thanks. I think if we examine the wording "while also broadening the reach of Sky’s leading entertainment channel brands to all major Pay-TV services in the UK for the first time." then you and Old Boy are both right. I guess the crucial thing is that it doesn't state all of Sky's entertainment brands will be on all platforms.

Media Boy UK 15-07-2019 02:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Sky Media has reveal Christmas24 and True Christmas run from mid September until early January.

Media Boy HQ thinks True Christmas will start in Mid September but Movies 24 will start at an later date until early January 2020.

Also The BBC has won the broadcasting rights to UEFA Women's Euro 2021.

OLD BOY 15-07-2019 06:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36002642)
I'm not trying to spin them at all. You're interpreting it incorrectly to support what you think will happen.

I'm telling you there's enough leeway in the wording that it doesn't guarantee Sky Atlantic on Virgin. Not by a long shot.

If you don't consider Virgin Media to be a major pay-tv platform whereas BT is, perhaps you can explain this.

https://www.barb.co.uk/tv-landscape-...y-tv-platform/

It is beyond ridiculous to suggest that BT is a major pay-tv platform but Virgin Media is not when VM comes second in that list.

denphone 15-07-2019 07:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36002669)
If you don't consider Virgin Media to be a major pay-tv platform whereas BT is, perhaps you can explain this.

https://www.barb.co.uk/tv-landscape-...y-tv-platform/

It is beyond ridiculous to suggest that BT is a major pay-tv platform but Virgin Media is not when VM comes second in that list.

Virgin Media is a major pay-tv platform end of.. But that still does not mean that it is going to get certain access to content/channels that BT have got because quite clearly it will not...

OLD BOY 15-07-2019 07:36

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36002672)
Virgin Media is a major pay-tv platform end of.. But that still does not mean that it is going to get certain access to content/channels that BT have got because quite clearly it will not...

Except that seems to make no sense in relation to the press release.

Anyway, we will know soon enough.

cheekyangus 15-07-2019 08:27

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36002664)
Sky Media has reveal Christmas24 and True Christmas run from mid September until early January.

Media Boy HQ thinks True Christmas will start in Mid September but Movies 24 will start at an later date until early January 2020.

Also The BBC has won the broadcasting rights to UEFA Women's Euro 2021.

This could just be the way you have written it MB, but True Christmas (aka True Movies the rest of the year) is a Sony channel. I'm assuming you didn't mean for it to read like Sky owned it and was releasing press releases for it. Sky only, as of the Comcast deal going through, owns Movies24 and Movies24+ (aka Christmas24/Christmas24+). I'm assuming you found two press releases from their respective owners and combined them into that one post.

jfman 15-07-2019 08:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36002669)
If you don't consider Virgin Media to be a major pay-tv platform whereas BT is, perhaps you can explain this.

https://www.barb.co.uk/tv-landscape-...y-tv-platform/

It is beyond ridiculous to suggest that BT is a major pay-tv platform but Virgin Media is not when VM comes second in that list.

It doesn’t matter whether I think Virgin are a major TV platform or not (which I said above). Just as it doesn’t matter if you think so or not.

If Sky want to throw the term around and exclude Virgin there’s nothing stopping them from doing so. It has no legal or protected status.

denphone 15-07-2019 08:36

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36002673)
Except that seems to make no sense in relation to the press release.

Anyway, we will know soon enough.

The press release was poorly worded in parts of it IMO.

SonicMaster 15-07-2019 08:38

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36002695)
This could just be the way you have written it MB, but True Christmas (aka True Movies the rest of the year) is a Sony channel. I'm assuming you didn't mean for it to read like Sky owned it and was releasing press releases for it. Sky only, as of the Comcast deal going through, owns Movies24 and Movies24+ (aka Christmas24/Christmas24+). I'm assuming you found two press releases from their respective owners and combined them into that one post.

No, he just read it here on the Sky Media website:

https://www.skymedia.co.uk/opportuni...s-movies-2019/

cheekyangus 15-07-2019 09:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36002699)
No, he just read it here on the Sky Media website:

https://www.skymedia.co.uk/opportuni...s-movies-2019/

Ah, I hadn't realised that Sky Media was the name of their Ad Sales House (I'd thought that was called something else). That makes much more sense as I know they act for other broadcasters.

Thanks SonicMaster. :)

OLD BOY 15-07-2019 09:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36002697)
It doesn’t matter whether I think Virgin are a major TV platform or not (which I said above). Just as it doesn’t matter if you think so or not.

If Sky want to throw the term around and exclude Virgin there’s nothing stopping them from doing so. It has no legal or protected status.

It matters because it is the second biggest pay tv platform in the UK. Why you are arguing the toss about this eludes me, but I accept you are just argumentative. Hey-ho.

jfman 15-07-2019 10:44

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36002702)
It matters because it is the second biggest pay tv platform in the UK. Why you are arguing the toss about this eludes me, but I accept you are just argumentative. Hey-ho.

It's you who is being argumentative because you are consistently ignoring my point.

You cannot bind Sky to your definition of major platform. If Sky choose to be dismissive of Virgin in a press release they're entitled to do so. All that happens is they look petty and a handful of members of this forum get upset.

Had they used the term in an advert the ASA could regulate its usage. However they didn't.

Maggy 15-07-2019 10:49

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
This is the Coming Soon to Virgin TV thread and some recent posts have nothing to do with the topic. So keep to topic please or open your own thread.

Horizon 15-07-2019 14:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Regarding the possible rebranding of Sky's channels by Comcast to NBC, i think this all depends on what they call their global streamer in the coming months.

My money is on it being called Sky, but Comcast also stated that they'd roll out NowTV globally, so that might be "the" global streamer too. If that does happen, then I would expect the Sky channels to take on the NBC/Universal branding.

jfman 15-07-2019 19:52

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)
 
Do we really expect the whole company to ditch recognised branding throughout the world to standardise it in a short space of time?


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