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Raider999 05-12-2020 12:13

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I thought the whole idea of streaming was that you could watch what you want when you want?

So you should be able to start watching a football match, that kicked off at 2pm, at 3pm and watch from the beginning. I.E. Time shifting as you would do with a recording from a conventional channel.

However, you do not appear to be able to watch any of Amazon Primes live sport events after they have started. You have to wait until the full match replay becomes available the following day.

Is this progress - definitely not.

Legendkiller2k 05-12-2020 13:23

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36061052)
I thought the whole idea of streaming was that you could watch what you want when you want?

So you should be able to start watching a football match, that kicked off at 2pm, at 3pm and watch from the beginning. I.E. Time shifting as you would do with a recording from a conventional channel.

However, you do not appear to be able to watch any of Amazon Primes live sport events after they have started. You have to wait until the full match replay becomes available the following day.

Is this progress - definitely not.

There's are reasons why Amazon streaming/prime video is laughed at at the moment in the industry and what you just highlighted is on of the reasons.
The other which they are resolving is they mix paid content in with prime content often catching people out.

Hugh 05-12-2020 14:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36061052)
I thought the whole idea of streaming was that you could watch what you want when you want?

So you should be able to start watching a football match, that kicked off at 2pm, at 3pm and watch from the beginning. I.E. Time shifting as you would do with a recording from a conventional channel.

However, you do not appear to be able to watch any of Amazon Primes live sport events after they have started. You have to wait until the full match replay becomes available the following day.

Is this progress - definitely not.

Is that on Smart TV/V6? - I'm watching the Ireland v Scotland match on my PC (having gone through the Amazon Prime Video tab on the Amazon page), and I can go back for about 36 minutes so far (gets me back to the end of the Fiji v Georgia match, and the waffle between the games).

Raider999 05-12-2020 17:29

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36061064)
Is that on Smart TV/V6? - I'm watching the Ireland v Scotland match on my PC (having gone through the Amazon Prime Video tab on the Amazon page), and I can go back for about 36 minutes so far (gets me back to the end of the Fiji v Georgia match, and the waffle between the games).

No I am using a Roku box - haven't tried it today as I assumed it would be consistent.

Anyway, the method of viewing it shouldn't alter the experience. Either you can start watching it at any time or you cannot - end of💩

As for the things that are wrong with Amazon Prime - picture quality is the biggest beef IMO.

Hugh 06-12-2020 14:07

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36061094)
No I am using a Roku box - haven't tried it today as I assumed it would be consistent.

Anyway, the method of viewing it shouldn't alter the experience. Either you can start watching it at any time or you cannot - end of��

As for the things that are wrong with Amazon Prime - picture quality is the biggest beef IMO.

Strangely enough, I’m watching England v France at the moment, and there are two different experiences..

On the VM V6 Amazon channel, I can only watch it live - on the Sony Smart TV Amazon Prime Video app, I can watch it live or watch it from beginning, with the ability ff/rewind what’s on.

BenMcr 06-12-2020 14:54

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36061161)
Strangely enough, I’m watching England v France at the moment, and there are two different experiences..

On the VM V6 Amazon channel, I can only watch it live - on the Sony Smart TV Amazon Prime Video app, I can watch it live or watch it from beginning, with the ability ff/rewind what’s on.

Same is true between my Samsung TV and a 360 box.

So it looks like it's an active experience difference by Amazon as to the options available. Which due to how convoluted streaming rights are, may be down to the class of device.

Chris 06-12-2020 14:58

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Amazon have form for uneven deployment of features.

You can get a “free to me” menu option in some Prime Video deployments that allows you to weed out all the content that isn’t free with your prime subscription, whereas it’s missing on others. Netflix isn’t entirely consistent across platforms either, but in my experience it’s less of an issue.

Legendkiller2k 06-12-2020 15:16

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36061164)
Amazon have form for uneven deployment of features.

You can get a “free to me” menu option in some Prime Video deployments that allows you to weed out all the content that isn’t free with your prime subscription, whereas it’s missing on others. Netflix isn’t entirely consistent across platforms either, but in my experience it’s less of an issue.

Hulu is the same it tends to differ across different devices.

Mad Max 06-12-2020 18:26

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Anyone watched the excellent show called The Queen's Gambit, it's on Netflix.

Legendkiller2k 06-12-2020 18:49

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36061176)
Anyone watched the excellent show called The Queen's Gambit, it's on Netflix.

On my watchlist mate as i like Ana Joy Taylor a very good actress.

Mad Max 06-12-2020 19:01

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36061178)
On my watchlist mate as i like Ana Joy Taylor a very good actress.

We've only watched the first episode and it was really very good.

muppetman11 06-12-2020 19:37

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Amazon Prime picture is terrible I've tried on numerous devices and all aren't good for tonight's live football.

Hugh 06-12-2020 19:58

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Strangely enough, the Sony Smart TV Amazon Prime App seemed clearer and very little lag, compared to the V6 Amazon channel red dot one...

Raider999 06-12-2020 21:58

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36061186)
Amazon Prime picture is terrible I've tried on numerous devices and all aren't good for tonight's live football.


Having used Prime for numerous rugby and a couple of football matches over the past month, I would have to agree.

It is nowhere near the expected standard IMO

1andrew1 06-12-2020 22:22

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Interesting article in the FT on Disney's move to streaming. Points include:
- Disney's TV channels are very profitable ($6bn annual income) but in decline. Disney Plus is growing but is unprofitable.
- The growth of Disney Plus to 70m subscribers has led Disney to invest less in Hulu and not roll it out globally. Indian pay TV business Star is being invested in, though.
- To match its cable profits, ESPN Plus would need to be priced at $40-$45 per month. Its 10m subscribers currently pay an average of $4.54 per month. ESPN traditional cable subscribers saw a decline from 90m in 2016 to 80m in 2020 but rights costs have risen.
https://www.ft.com/content/cf22ac6b-...6-6689c625461d

Legendkiller2k 06-12-2020 23:32

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36061186)
Amazon Prime picture is terrible I've tried on numerous devices and all aren't good for tonight's live football.

Was pretty decent on my Nvidia Shield seemed like there was popping noises in the sound though.

Legendkiller2k 07-12-2020 13:08

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As i reported awhile back Netflix prices in UK are going up, i think this may be a price rise too much for many https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/netfli...s-uk-going-up/

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The Basic Plan, remains at £5.99/month – Lets you stream content in Standard Definition, on only one device at a time.
The Standard Plan, going up to £9.99/month (From £8.99) – Lets you stream content in High Definition, on up to 2 devices at a time.
The Premium Plan, now £13.99/month (From £11.99) – Lets you stream some content in UltraHD (4K), on up to 4 devices at a time.

In Ireland, the Standard plan will go up to €12.99, and the Premium plan will go up to €17.99.

For new Netflix subscribers, the price increase will come into effect right away (starting December 10), while existing customers will soon get an e-mail informing them of the price increase, which will apply to them 30 days after the notification.

The increase in the UK comes a few weeks after a similar increase in the US, where prices for the Standard and Premium plans have gone up by $1 and $2,

denphone 07-12-2020 13:17

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36061252)
As i reported awhile back Netflix prices in UK are going up, i think this may be a price rise too much for many https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/netfli...s-uk-going-up/

You are right it is a price rise too far..

1andrew1 07-12-2020 13:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36061252)
As i reported awhile back Netflix prices in UK are going up, i think this may be a price rise too much for many https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/netfli...s-uk-going-up/

I suspect some of the increase is to discourage password-sharing with the aim of getting two Basic subscriptions in place of one Standard.

jfman 07-12-2020 13:36

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Cordbusters :D

cheekyangus 07-12-2020 14:13

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36061255)
I suspect some of the increase is to discourage password-sharing with the aim of getting two Basic subscriptions in place of one Standard.

Never thought of it like that. Quite possible.

jfman 08-12-2020 12:46

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https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...amming-digital

Interesting consultation.

Streamers won't want to touch unprofitable content. PSBs probably keen to get some prominence as streamers as a result of delivering PSB.

Phunkenstein 08-12-2020 13:35

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36061344)
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...amming-digital

Interesting consultation.

Streamers won't want to touch unprofitable content. PSBs probably keen to get some prominence as streamers as a result of delivering PSB.

Sky/NOW TV could in theory easily pivot towards this - and maybe with some enthusiasm given that unlike Netflix they are a much more localised operation.

There were some speculation months back they were looking at delivering local news - https://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/2...ice-in-offing/

And Sky Arts on Freeview could be interpreted as a way to start inching into the PSB space?

Mad Max 08-12-2020 15:37

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36061253)
You are right it is a price rise too far..


I still think Netflix is decent value, even if it does increase by £1.

denphone 08-12-2020 15:46

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36061373)
I still think Netflix is decent value, even if it does increase by £1.

Each to their own MM as some might think it represents good value to their household where others might think another streamer might represent better value then Netflix in their household.

Itshim 08-12-2020 16:28

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Understand your point but Netflix is were I spend most of the limited TV watching time . Only bother with virgin TV as the package is not that much dearer than not having it ! And just using Freeview + now

Phunkenstein 08-12-2020 19:42

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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...source=twitter

Jeff Shell (NBCU CEO) confirms Peacock will not launch in the Sky territories.

Shell added the international rollout for Peacock will avoid major markets like the UK, Germany and Italy where Comcast parent NBCUniversal has a major presence with Sky.

"Peacock is a product we will use selectively in markets," he told investors, as the AVOD's programming will still land on Sky in the UK market.

1andrew1 08-12-2020 23:46

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Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36061406)
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...source=twitter

Jeff Shell (NBCU CEO) confirms Peacock will not launch in the Sky territories.

Shell added the international rollout for Peacock will avoid major markets like the UK, Germany and Italy where Comcast parent NBCUniversal has a major presence with Sky.

"Peacock is a product we will use selectively in markets," he told investors, as the AVOD's programming will still land on Sky in the UK market.

No real surprise. Will be interesting to see if Peacock is launched elsewhere in Europe.

japitts 10-12-2020 16:00

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36061213)
Having used Prime for numerous rugby and a couple of football matches over the past month, I would have to agree.

It is nowhere near the expected standard IMO

I had a 30day trial (now cancelled) for the autumn rugby, and wasn't impressed.

Their non-live streaming was entirely what I'd have expected, but as far as the sports coverage was concerned, no it didn't tick the boxes.

I know there were some other posts on another thread here to a similar effect, and I wish I could put my finger on what was missing. But comparing the live rugby streams with Sky/BT HD pictures, there was just no contest.

Raider999 10-12-2020 17:17

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Originally Posted by japitts (Post 36061698)
I had a 30day trial (now cancelled) for the autumn rugby, and wasn't impressed.

Their non-live streaming was entirely what I'd have expected, but as far as the sports coverage was concerned, no it didn't tick the boxes.

I know there were some other posts on another thread here to a similar effect, and I wish I could put my finger on what was missing. But comparing the live rugby streams with Sky/BT HD pictures, there was just no contest.

Lack of Picture Quality was my main beef, even my wife who normally cannot tell the difference between SD/HD noticed so it must be poor.

Had a whirly sign interrupt one of the England games (presumably buffering?) - not acceptable.

The presentation was not as slick as Sky/BT - can forgive that as it was Amazon's first attempt.

However, if rugby was to be on Prime all the time I would not be happy as it would mean an extra monthly cost.

Progress - definitely not.

Legendkiller2k 11-12-2020 01:59

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Disney+ have announced you guessed it price rises USA will go up by $1 EU will go up by 2euros no word on UK yet but i recon it'll be a £2 price rise.

1andrew1 11-12-2020 09:20

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36061791)
Disney+ have announced you guessed it price rises USA will go up by $1 EU will go up by 2euros no word on UK yet but i recon it'll be a £2 price rise.

Thy're also adding Star TV (its Indian TV service) to Disney+ in Europe and doubling its annual content investment to $15bn by 2024.

BenMcr 11-12-2020 09:21

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36061791)
Disney+ have announced you guessed it price rises USA will go up by $1 EU will go up by 2euros no word on UK yet but i recon it'll be a £2 price rise.

Considering the amount of new Marvel and Start War content they announced, it has to be paid for somehow! Seen they announced some other Disney+ original content too (in addition to the Star TV thing for Europe) but not dug through that yet.

Legendkiller2k 11-12-2020 12:04

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36061813)
Considering the amount of new Marvel and Start War content they announced, it has to be paid for somehow! Seen they announced some other Disney+ original content too (in addition to the Star TV thing for Europe) but not dug through that yet.

Had confirmation Star will not be included in Disney+ cost it will be a seperate service launching Febrauary 2021.

Disney+ will rise to £7.99p/m in the UK also Disney plan to have new releases on both D+ premier and cinemas simutaniously. Still decent value imo considering the content they have.

Also yay 4 weeks off work nowe.

BenMcr 11-12-2020 12:25

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36061840)
Had confirmation Star will not be included in Disney+ cost it will be a seperate service launching Febrauary 2021.

I'm not sure what that is what this says though. It's not the clearest.

https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/the...-350m-by-2024/
Quote:

Star will launch in Europe and several other international markets on February 23, 2021 as a fully integrated part of Disney+, with its own branded tile and a new collection of renowned general entertainment series, movies, documentaries and more that will double the content catalog available to Disney+ subscribers
...
In Europe, the service will be priced at €8.99 per month or €89.99 per year, with a similar pricing adjustment in the other Star launch markets, including Australia, New Zealand, and Canada.
For me that says it is part of Disney+ but that a price rise comes at the same time. Not that there are two subscriptions?

Phunkenstein 11-12-2020 13:35

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36061842)
I'm not sure what that is what this says though. It's not the clearest.

https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/the...-350m-by-2024/


For me that says it is part of Disney+ but that a price rise comes at the same time. Not that there are two subscriptions?

It’s not entirely clear with the U.K for some reason.

On one hand we are getting the price rise to 7.99 but the presentation didn’t specify the U.K and the presentation slides show pictures of the map of ‘Continental Europe’ only.

https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/app...des-121020.pdf -

I suspect the fact that BBC have the FX deal for some years and Sky having the pay tv window for 20th Century may prevent Star (assuming it launches) having a strong portfolio at launch.

Mad Max 11-12-2020 13:55

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Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36061859)
It’s not entirely clear with the U.K for some reason.

On one hand we are getting the price rise to 7.99 but the presentation didn’t specify the U.K and the presentation slides show pictures of the map of ‘Continental Europe’ only.

https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/app...des-121020.pdf -

I suspect the fact that BBC have the FX deal for some years and Sky having the pay tv window for 20th Century may prevent Star (assuming it launches) having a strong portfolio at launch.


They're waiting on the trade deal between the EU & UK.:D

1andrew1 11-12-2020 14:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36061842)
I'm not sure what that is what this says though. It's not the clearest.

https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/the...-350m-by-2024/

For me that says it is part of Disney+ but that a price rise comes at the same time. Not that there are two subscriptions?

Star looks to be a bit like Hulu ie more adult-oriented content. In the US, I believe they're bundled together so having Star as part of Disney + in Europe makes sense and justifies the price rise.

As Disney co-owns Hulu with Comcast (will be 100% Disney owned in a few years) I suspect that it is chosing to role out this type of content under the Star brand instead of Hulu. I can understand if Comcast didn't want to invest in a service which competed with Sky and Peacock if it has a deal to sell its shares in Hulu.

(Spelling of Hulu corrected per Phunkenstein)

Phunkenstein 11-12-2020 14:19

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36061868)
Star looks to be a bit like Hayu ie more adult-oriented content. In the US, I believe they're bundled together so having Star as part of Disney + in Europe makes sense and justifies the price rise.

As Disney co-owns Hayu with Comcast (will be 100% Disney owned in a few years) I suspect that it is chosing to role out this type of content under the Star brand instead of Hayu. I can understand if Comcast didn't want to invest in a service which competed with Sky and Peacock if it has a deal to sell its shares in Hayu.

Hulu you mean!

Issue with Hulu is that while Disney have operational control, Comcast have their third of the business as you mention.

The deal they signed essentially guarantees Comcast a certain amount (at least 5.8 Billion or the fair market value if above it) and either party can force the other to sell/buy in 2024 or thereabouts. Comcast would more than likely be ok for Hulu to roll out internationally as it they get the benefit of any increase in worth - launching Star on the other hand alleviates that issue as its essentially growing a Disney owned business already so the Star expansion is very much strategic and when Hulu is fully assumed by Disney, they would then have the freedom to rebrand and align the services more.

Legendkiller2k 11-12-2020 14:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36061842)
I'm not sure what that is what this says though. It's not the clearest.

https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/the...-350m-by-2024/


For me that says it is part of Disney+ but that a price rise comes at the same time. Not that there are two subscriptions?

Could be Ben the £2 price rise is to cover Star but as far as we're aware Star will be a seperate service.

1andrew1 11-12-2020 14:57

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36061873)
Could be Ben the £2 price rise is to cover Star but as far as we're aware Star will be a seperate service.

I interpret it as a price rise and it will be another "tile" alongside other "tiles" like National Geographic.

Legendkiller2k 11-12-2020 17:35

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36061874)
I interpret it as a price rise and it will be another "tile" alongside other "tiles" like National Geographic.

I'm keeping a close eye on developments ofcourse i'll keep everyone updated best i can.

1andrew1 13-12-2020 11:38

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US consumers paying the price for streaming
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Consumers have complained bitterly over the years about traditional “bundled” cable and satellite packages, where they paid a monthly subscription for 100s of channels when they only ever watched a handful. Now many would welcome a return to that aggregation to find all of the content they want to watch in one place at a single price. Direct-to-consumer is the name of the current internet game and that can mean cutting out the middle man of traditional broadcaster or cable operator.

...However, catalogues such as Amazon’s and Hulu’s are shrinking as studios hold back content for their own streaming services, forcing viewers into paying for multiple subscriptions to access all the TV and movies they want.

There is much more that’s watchable in the post-57 channel age, but as Ampere concludes: “The golden age of cheap access to content is coming to a close.”
https://www.ft.com/content/079b8766-...c-4f333e95776c

Phunkenstein 14-12-2020 10:24

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https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...-for-christmas

Sky & Amazon have signed a deal... going to be interesting to see how this affects the next PL auction and how aggressive (or not) the relevant parties will be...

1andrew1 14-12-2020 10:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36062240)
https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...-for-christmas

Sky & Amazon have signed a deal... going to be interesting to see how this affects the next PL auction and how aggressive (or not) the relevant parties will be...

Don't see it impacting on the next PL auction and a sensible move for Sky given the profusion of Smart TVs; it keeps their customers in the Sky system. Amazon could have gone in big on sports rights before but they've decided not to and this is a global approach. Get people signed up to their Prime Service is the key aim with some sports rights and make money on such people using Amazon as their preferred online shopping site.

muppetman11 14-12-2020 11:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36062240)
https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...-for-christmas

Sky & Amazon have signed a deal... going to be interesting to see how this affects the next PL auction and how aggressive (or not) the relevant parties will be...

Great news noticed the app earlier on my box.

---------- Post added at 11:52 ---------- Previous post was at 11:41 ----------

I notice you can also watch your previous purchases and buy/rent new movies in the Amazon app which I never thought Sky would agree to.

Phunkenstein 14-12-2020 11:58

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36062255)
Great news noticed the app earlier on my box.

---------- Post added at 11:52 ---------- Previous post was at 11:41 ----------

I notice you can also watch your previous purchases and buy/rent new movies in the Amazon app which I never thought Sky would agree to.

Reports some time back indicated that was a major stumbling block - they weren’t happy about the transactional content and the Prime channels. However Amazon didn’t want to give Sky integrated search and homepage access which will also be available in the coming months so clearly both sides were ultimately happy to get over that and also get Now TV onto Fire.

cheekyangus 14-12-2020 12:42

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Just as an aside, I was flicking through the Tesco magazine and they had an ad for Technika Smart TV with Fire TV built-in. Don't recall seeing Fire OS in a 3rd Party -branded device before.

Legendkiller2k 14-12-2020 16:30

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36062259)
Just as an aside, I was flicking through the Tesco magazine and they had an ad for Technika Smart TV with Fire TV built-in. Don't recall seeing Fire OS in a 3rd Party -branded device before.

Been on tvs in USA for awhile now, prob are some in uk too https://www.androidcentral.com/best-...0u21-4k-uhd-tv

buckeye 14-12-2020 18:35

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JVC sell some TV's with Fire OS on them in this country.

Also the Now TV app on my 4k Firestick doesn't framerate switch so unless you want to manually switch the video output of the stick to 50hz be prepared for jerky sports on it.

cheekyangus 14-12-2020 18:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36062259)
Just as an aside, I was flicking through the Tesco magazine and they had an ad for Technika Smart TV with Fire TV built-in. Don't recall seeing Fire OS in a 3rd Party -branded device before.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36062283)
Been on tvs in USA for awhile now, prob are some in uk too https://www.androidcentral.com/best-...0u21-4k-uhd-tv

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 36062300)
JVC sell some TV's with Fire OS on them in this country.

Also the Now TV app on my 4k Firestick doesn't framerate switch so unless you want to manually switch the video output of the stick to 50hz be prepared for jerky sports on it.

Thanks for replies. :)

Raider999 14-12-2020 21:31

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36062246)
Don't see it impacting on the next PL auction and a sensible move for Sky given the profusion of Smart TVs; it keeps their customers in the Sky system. Amazon could have gone in big on sports rights before but they've decided not to and this is a global approach. Get people signed up to their Prime Service is the key aim with some sports rights and make money on such people using Amazon as their preferred online shopping site.

I'm not sure why you say that, the article I read in the telegraph stated prime app would be on skyQ in time to watch amazons 20 EPL matches (they start tomorrow) and it is.

It also said sky/Amazon had come to an agreement over future EPL rights and the income from UK rights was likely to fall (already sky/BT have an agreement)

So it wouldn't surprise me at all.

Halcyon 15-12-2020 13:44

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Anyone know how to get rid of the spinning Netflix loading ball?


On several films or TV programs I find I then click on them and they just have the loading ball going round and round and it never plays.

Chris 15-12-2020 13:51

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I've not seen that behaviour in the circumstances you seem to be having (am I right in understanding that it always prevents you watching certain titles, while always allowing others?)

The loading ball may hang on 25% for a while if you have low bandwidth. It will hang on 24% if you have no bandwidth at all. If your internet connection speed is unstable, you may see this behaviour if you have a moment of poor speed coinciding with you starting a new programme. Netflix's bandwidth-adaptive tech is second to none so it is quite rare even on a poor connection for a programme to stall once it's going and has a reasonable buffer.

Have you tried going into your Netflix app's settings and running its internal speed/connectivity test?

Halcyon 15-12-2020 13:56

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Thanks Chris.
I'l take a look tonight and do a speed test. It does indeed only happen on certain programs.
A reboot of my AppleTV sometimes sort sit out, but not always.

1andrew1 16-12-2020 23:27

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36062259)
Just as an aside, I was flicking through the Tesco magazine and they had an ad for Technika Smart TV with Fire TV built-in. Don't recall seeing Fire OS in a 3rd Party -branded device before.

In Europe, TPV (Phillips brand) and Vestel (Toshiba, Hitachi, some JVCs, some Bush and some Technika and others) are licensed by Amazon to include Fire O/S in their models. https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...mazon-fire-tv/

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I'm not sure why you say that, the article I read in the telegraph stated prime app would be on skyQ in time to watch amazons 20 EPL matches (they start tomorrow) and it is.

It also said sky/Amazon had come to an agreement over future EPL rights and the income from UK rights was likely to fall (already sky/BT have an agreement)

So it wouldn't surprise me at all.

I don't think Amazon and Sky would be allowed to colude on bidding for sports rights - the Competition and Markets Authority would be all over them like a rash!

jfman 16-12-2020 23:36

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They can’t openly collude but they can remove incentive to outbid each other.

If Amazon’s plan is to have some games and market a Sports add on then the Now TV app allows them to do this without £5bn of risk. :)

cheekyangus 16-12-2020 23:44

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36062531)
In Europe, TPV (Phillips brand) and Vestel (Toshiba, Hitachi, some JVCs, some Bush and some Technika and others) are licensed by Amazon to include Fire O/S in their models. https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...mazon-fire-tv/

Thanks 1andrew1

Raider999 17-12-2020 21:13

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36062534)
They can’t openly collude but they can remove incentive to outbid each other.

If Amazon’s plan is to have some games and market a Sports add on then the Now TV app allows them to do this without £5bn of risk. :)

In an about turn, today's Telegraph suggests Premiership Rugby and BT are nearing agreement on a new contract at around £37m per year (premiership rugby turned down £40m per year from BT at the start of the year) sky apparently are concentrating on International Rugby - so no likely counter-bid from them.

Also says the anticipated bid from Amazon didn't materialise as Amazon do not want to commit to season-long multi-year contracts -as such I wouldn't expect Amazon to try to muscle in at the next EPL contract negotiations - probably pick off the occasional low hanging fruit that they currently have.

As others have said they have 2 rounds of EPL around Christmas - good for getting new customers for Christmas shopping and the Autumn Cup Rugby led into Black Friday.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36062534)
They can’t openly collude but they can remove incentive to outbid each other.

If Amazon’s plan is to have some games and market a Sports add on then the Now TV app allows them to do this without £5bn of risk. :)

That is correct.

japitts 18-12-2020 11:05

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36062591)
In an about turn, today's Telegraph suggests Premiership Rugby and BT are nearing agreement on a new contract at around £37m per year (premiership rugby turned down £40m per year from BT at the start of the year) sky apparently are concentrating on International Rugby - so no likely counter-bid from them.

I'd seen the same, great news if this comes to fruition. BT Sport do an excellent job with all of English club rugby.

I've seen reports on some other forums that the international rights are going to be more bundled than in the past, come this round of renewals. Sky have always had the summer international tours by virtue of their southern hemisphere rights, and do a decent enough job with those.

But while the Six-Nations have traditionally been bundled and sold FTA, the November series have had some messy arrangements - there'd be no harm done by those being collectively sold. I'm in two minds whether the home nations should be on FTA or if them going to pay is justifiable for the increased rights income.

Raider999 18-12-2020 21:45

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Originally Posted by japitts (Post 36062637)
I'd seen the same, great news if this comes to fruition. BT Sport do an excellent job with all of English club rugby.

I've seen reports on some other forums that the international rights are going to be more bundled than in the past, come this round of renewals. Sky have always had the summer international tours by virtue of their southern hemisphere rights, and do a decent enough job with those.

But while the Six-Nations have traditionally been bundled and sold FTA, the November series have had some messy arrangements - there'd be no harm done by those being collectively sold. I'm in two minds whether the home nations should be on FTA or if them going to pay is justifiable for the increased rights income.


BT confirmed as continuing their coverage of Premiership Rugby - fee is less than CVC/Prem Rugby rejected in February - as a result of Covid I would imagine

On the whole I would agree with your comments re BT coverage, the caveat I would like to see BT setting the games up on extra in a way they can be recorded.

jfman 19-12-2020 00:01

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Suspect the easiest way for “not openly colluding” is that Sky are unlikely to bid for rights BT currently hold and vice versa. This way it maintains their relative value to each other in their carriage agreements on each other’s platforms.

The challenge is if one of them, more likely BT perhaps, was to lose out to a third party.

muppetman11 26-12-2020 00:00

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Why is Netflix so restrictive when it comes to Universal Guides ?

https://www.techhive.com/article/359...take-note.html

Chris 26-12-2020 10:50

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36063795)
Why is Netflix so restrictive when it comes to Universal Guides ?

https://www.techhive.com/article/359...take-note.html

It’s all to do with commodisation. If your product becomes a commodity item, then it’s no longer possible to differentiate between yours and someone else’s. You don’t look at the stickers on the bananas in the supermarket because they’re all just bananas as far as you’re concerned. Microsoft was very good at this in the early 90s, when they captured all the brand awareness for Windows 95 amongst most of the emerging home PC user market, at the expense of the hardware manufacturers.

Netflix is worried about losing control of its brand, which in part it communicates to its users via its own user interface. When a user enjoys a show made by Netflix, Netflix wants the viewer to attribute all their appreciation to Netflix. That is somewhat harder to ensure if the viewer journey doesn’t start and end at the Netflix UI. If you begin from a common menu structure run by Google you risk users attributing appreciation to Google instead. That’s what they’re worried about.

OLD BOY 26-12-2020 12:30

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Yes, but surely if each programme starts with the 'Netflix' logo, there would not be any doubt as to where your content came from.

Hugh 26-12-2020 12:39

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36063819)
Yes, but surely if each programme starts with the 'Netflix' logo, there would not be any doubt as to where your content came from.

Not as "sticky" to the subconcious as being on the Netflix site - you are continually reminded where you are, rather than it being a passing mention.

Legendkiller2k 26-12-2020 12:41

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36063819)
Yes, but surely if each programme starts with the 'Netflix' logo, there would not be any doubt as to where your content came from.

Well actually yes as many so called Netflix originals are actually from other studios a example was Scitt's Creek a POP, CBC television programme but in UK the Netflix symbol popped up as it started, Netflix had nothing to do with making it.
Been quite a lot more too izombie was another had the Netflix logo as it started but infact it was made by CW.
Amazon do exactly the same.

OLD BOY 26-12-2020 13:15

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36063824)
Well actually yes as many so called Netflix originals are actually from other studios a example was Scitt's Creek a POP, CBC television programme but in UK the Netflix symbol popped up as it started, Netflix had nothing to do with making it.
Been quite a lot more too izombie was another had the Netflix logo as it started but infact it was made by CW.
Amazon do exactly the same.

True, but nothing to stop Netflix from prefacing all original programmes with ‘Netflix original’.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36063822)
Not as "sticky" to the subconcious as being on the Netflix site - you are continually reminded where you are, rather than it being a passing mention.

Agreed, but the needs of the consumer have to be taken into account. It has been recognised that having all your content in one list is what most people want. They don’t want to go to multiple menus to find what they are looking for.

cheekyangus 26-12-2020 13:17

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36063824)
Well actually yes as many so called Netflix originals are actually from other studios a example was Scitt's Creek a POP, CBC television programme but in UK the Netflix symbol popped up as it started, Netflix had nothing to do with making it.
Been quite a lot more too izombie was another had the Netflix logo as it started but infact it was made by CW.
Amazon do exactly the same.

I shout at the screen every time they do this, whether it be Star Trek Discovery or The Good Place.

And there is the the fairly well known story the Channel 4 executive's daughter who told her dad about the wonderful Netflix show Peep Show...you can imagine her dad's reaction. :D

I know someone who thought The Repair Shop was a Quest show...and the BBC plaster their logo on the front of everything...so even putting logos at the start of shows doesn't work on some people.

Legendkiller2k 26-12-2020 13:27

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36063829)
I shout at the screen every time they do this, whether it be Star Trek Discovery or The Good Place.

And there is the the fairly well known story the Channel 4 executive's daughter who told her dad about the wonderful Netflix show Peep Show...you can imagine her dad's reaction. :D

I know someone who thought The Repair Shop was a Quest show...and the BBC plaster their logo on the front of everything...so even putting logos at the start of shows doesn't work on some people.

Imo what would be a better way if it is a Netflix production then start with a logo "Netflix Original." if it's another network show but a Netflix exclusive for that region then start with "Netflix exclusive" same for Amazon etc.

Chris 26-12-2020 14:10

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36063827)
Agreed, but the needs of the consumer have to be taken into account. It has been recognised that having all your content in one list is what most people want. They don’t want to go to multiple menus to find what they are looking for.

By ‘they’ you do of course mean ‘you’. ;)

When any service provider is entirely reliant on a third party for product placement, that service provider becomes vulnerable. They no longer decide which of their shows come top of the menu. Worse, they may in time be asked to pay to appear, or pay more for prominence. If this occurs in an environment where it has become the norm for customers to access the product via a third party, the damage to the provider’s ability to get its product under the consumer’s nose may be significant.

Netflix has clearly decided the risk of allowing Google to control the UI is too great, and that there is a greater potential benefit in continuing to control their own, separately. That’s why they’ve withdrawn from it.

RichardCoulter 31-12-2020 13:33

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Due to Brexit, Sky Go is no longer available outside the UK. I had assumed that the VM equivalent would be similarly affected, but it still says it's available in the EU:

https://www.virginmedia.com/help/vir...a%20connection.

Maybe they will switch it off at 11pm tonight, unless it's another VM cock up!

Legendkiller2k 31-12-2020 14:59

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36064410)
Due to Brexit, Sky Go is no longer available outside the UK. I had assumed that the VM equivalent would be similarly affected, but it still says it's available in the EU:

https://www.virginmedia.com/help/vir...a%20connection.

Maybe they will switch it off at 11pm tonight, unless it's another VM cock up!

It is via a vpn ;)

Stephen 31-12-2020 15:04

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I wasn't sure it ever worked outside the UK. Am sure I tried it last year and it never worked then.

jfman 31-12-2020 15:13

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Had no issues with it when I used it in Berlin in October.

1andrew1 31-12-2020 16:02

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36064419)
I wasn't sure it ever worked outside the UK. Am sure I tried it last year and it never worked then.

Which country were you in?

Phunkenstein 04-01-2021 08:05

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https://twitter.com/disneyplusuk/sta...307935232?s=21

First promo for Star on Disney Plus.

Phunkenstein 18-01-2021 10:59

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https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...nema-customers

Sky again being aggressive in picking up content agreements for Sky Cinema - like the earlier deal with Entertainment One, this is another major indie distributor moving their pay tv deal from Amazon.

1andrew1 18-01-2021 11:14

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Not too much of a surprise - Sky need to fill the gap which Disney and 20th Century Studios will leave.

Phunkenstein 18-01-2021 11:21

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36067034)
Not too much of a surprise - Sky need to fill the gap which Disney and 20th Century Studios will leave.

Agreed (though there is still an ongoing pay tv window deal for 20th Century Studio titles - though how considerable that is remains to be seen as I expect Disney will use 20th Century and Searchlight to fill the Hulu/Star pipeline with direct to service pictures).

Studiocanal and Entertainment One however are still in the business of mid-range, star driven films (as well as more British skewing movies) and I think those deals should help fill that gap nicely.

OLD BOY 18-01-2021 14:10

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Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36067029)
https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...nema-customers

Sky again being aggressive in picking up content agreements for Sky Cinema - like the earlier deal with Entertainment One, this is another major indie distributor moving their pay tv deal from Amazon.

Doesn’t sound very inspiring to me and it is not a deal which can adequately replace existing deals for new films with the bigger studios, which, like Disney, will continue to find alternative streaming outlets for their films.

Those other films like Paddington and the Hurt Locker have been on the Sky Cinema channels for some time, so no great shakes there either.

johnathome 18-01-2021 14:38

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36067041)

Those other films like Paddington and the Hurt Locker have been on the Sky Cinema channels for some time, so no great shakes there either.

Paddington 2 is even on iPlayer, some nice films on there actually

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/catego...lms/a-z?page=4

OLD BOY 18-01-2021 14:43

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I know, the Beeb is quite good at selecting films to show on their channels.

Phunkenstein 18-01-2021 15:07

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36067041)
Doesn’t sound very inspiring to me and it is not a deal which can adequately replace existing deals for new films with the bigger studios, which, like Disney, will continue to find alternative streaming outlets for their films.

Those other films like Paddington and the Hurt Locker have been on the Sky Cinema channels for some time, so no great shakes there either.

Aside from the Disney pipeline, what are they replacing? Sky still have their deals with Paramount and Universal, have renewed deals with Warner Bros and Sony and renewed a deal with Disney for movies via the 20th Century brand that are not destined for Disney Plus - if anything these deals are additive and will go someway to giving them fresh and fairly high profile content and a boost to the wider catalogue... seems like a fairly adequate replacement to me!

Also Studiocanal (and what was formerly Optimum Releasing) have not had any pay tv window output deals with Sky for the best part of a decade so a significant number of those movies will be on Sky Cinema’s proposition for the first time including the Paddington movies.

muppetman11 18-01-2021 15:32

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It seems Disney + is the next streamer to raise prices and not even a year old.

The monthly price is set to rise from £5.99 to £7.99. Existing subscribers will stay at £5.99 until August 21.

Phunkenstein 18-01-2021 15:36

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36067057)
It seems Disney + is the next streamer to raise prices and not even a year old.

The monthly price is set to rise from £5.99 to £7.99. Existing subscribers will stay at £5.99 until August 21.

Yep, it’s timed with the launch of the Star catalogue - better get myself locked in for another year! Managed to get the last year at £39.99 (via TopCashback) so I think I can just about stomach 59.99 instead of 79.99!!!

OLD BOY 18-01-2021 15:41

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36067057)
It seems Disney + is the next streamer to raise prices and not even a year old.

The monthly price is set to rise from £5.99 to £7.99. Existing subscribers will stay at £5.99 until August 21.

It was only designed as an introductory price though. StarzPlay has only a fraction of the number of Disney+ offerings, and that costs £4.99.

I fully expect the price to settle at around £10.00pm to be honest. Maybe they will also introduce cheaper tiers with less content, fewer screens and not in UHD.

Chris 18-01-2021 15:42

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36067057)
It seems Disney + is the next streamer to raise prices and not even a year old.

The monthly price is set to rise from £5.99 to £7.99. Existing subscribers will stay at £5.99 until August 21.

Their launch price was pretty obviously a deal aimed at reeling people in. It was never sustainable for them to make such a huge chunk of their back catalogue permanently available on line at that price, much less produce new content. Most of what’s on Disney+ is stuff we were still buying on DVD for our kids until very recently. Disney is now never going to sell us another disc.

OLD BOY 18-01-2021 15:44

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Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36067049)
Aside from the Disney pipeline, what are they replacing? Sky still have their deals with Paramount and Universal, have renewed deals with Warner Bros and Sony and renewed a deal with Disney for movies via the 20th Century brand that are not destined for Disney Plus - if anything these deals are additive and will go someway to giving them fresh and fairly high profile content and a boost to the wider catalogue... seems like a fairly adequate replacement to me!

Also Studiocanal (and what was formerly Optimum Releasing) have not had any pay tv window output deals with Sky for the best part of a decade so a significant number of those movies will be on Sky Cinema’s proposition for the first time including the Paddington movies.

Fair point. My comment was made in anticipation of other studios going FTC when the existing contracts expire. Maybe that won’t happen this time around.

Phunkenstein 18-01-2021 15:53

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36067063)
Fair point. My comment was made in anticipation of other studios going FTC when the existing contracts expire. Maybe that won’t happen this time around.

It’s entirely reasonable to think that may happen in the longer term, especially with Warner Bros, 20th and maybe Paramount (if they don’t stop selling off all their movies to streamers for stupid amounts of money) but I’d also expect Sky to evolve how they offer movies as that happens... they’re still in a position to offer it as a separate proposition but further down the line? I expect some changes especially if they align closer and closer to their sibling company.

1andrew1 18-01-2021 16:32

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Will be interesting to see what happens to MGM, valued for its ownership of the James Bond franchise.

It put itself on the market a month ago for a reported $5bn and has previously held talks with Apple and Netflix but its asking price was reputedly too high for them.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...or-sale-at-5bn

cheekyangus 18-01-2021 17:08

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36067061)
It was only designed as an introductory price though. StarzPlay has only a fraction of the number of Disney+ offerings, and that costs £4.99.

I fully expect the price to settle at around £10.00pm to be honest. Maybe they will also introduce cheaper tiers with less content, fewer screens and not in UHD.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying Old Boy, but Star (mentioned earlier in thread) and Starzplay aren't the same thing. Star being owned by Disney and Starzplay being run by Starz with is owned by Lionsgate.

Raider999 18-01-2021 17:29

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36067057)
It seems Disney + is the next streamer to raise prices and not even a year old.

The monthly price is set to rise from £5.99 to £7.99. Existing subscribers will stay at £5.99 until August 21.


That will be so they can cash in on Cricket fans wanting to watch England's tour of India.

OLD BOY 18-01-2021 17:36

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36067086)
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are saying Old Boy, but Star (mentioned earlier in thread) and Starzplay aren't the same thing. Star being owned by Disney and Starzplay being run by Starz with is owned by Lionsgate.

No, I was referring to StarzPlay, but sorry for any confusion. I could have picked Acorn or Britbox, but I was comparing the amount of good, watchable content available on the various streamers. The StarzPlays, Acorns and Britboxes of this world pale into insignificance when compared to the big players and ultimately, the price differences will reflect this.

However, there is no doubt that the addition of Star and sports content will push the price up.

johnathome 18-01-2021 17:39

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36067090)
That will be so they can cash in on Cricket fans wanting to watch England's tour of India.

There's also a more mature service that is being added as well.

Phunkenstein 18-01-2021 17:51

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36067090)
That will be so they can cash in on Cricket fans wanting to watch England's tour of India.

It’s still speculation that Disney intend to stream the series rather than find a buyer for the rights - and the speculation itself is indicating it will be Hotstar offering it and not Disney Plus. Still remains to be seen if that’s the case.

1andrew1 18-01-2021 18:39

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36067092)
No, I was referring to StarzPlay, but sorry for any confusion. I could have picked Acorn or Britbox, but I was comparing the amount of good, watchable content available on the various streamers. The StarzPlays, Acorns and Britboxes of this world pale into insignificance when compared to the big players and ultimately, the price differences will reflect this.

However, there is no doubt that the addition of Star and sports content will push the price up.

I don't think there's any stated intention to offer sports in the UK. Disney's Western brand for sports is EPSN and that's currently licensed to BT Sport.

The confusion seems to have arisen in that instead of using the part-owned Hulu brand for their adult-orientated content, Disney will be using their Star brand from India, which is heavily associated with cricket coverage. However, it looks like it's just the brand that's being used and not the content.

jfman 18-01-2021 18:43

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36067101)
I don't think there's any stated intention to offer sports in the UK. Disney's Western brand for sports is EPSN and that's currently licensed to BT Sport.

The confusion seems to have arisen in that instead of using the part-owned Hulu brand for their adult-orientated content, Disney will be using their Star brand from India, which is heavily associated with cricket coverage. However, it looks like it's just the brand that's being used and not the content.

At least there's an acknowledgement of price rises. The low cost pay-TV alternative is coming to an end with inflation busting price rises year on year as they clamour to establish a viable business model.

OLD BOY 18-01-2021 19:54

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36067101)
I don't think there's any stated intention to offer sports in the UK. Disney's Western brand for sports is EPSN and that's currently licensed to BT Sport.

The confusion seems to have arisen in that instead of using the part-owned Hulu brand for their adult-orientated content, Disney will be using their Star brand from India, which is heavily associated with cricket coverage. However, it looks like it's just the brand that's being used and not the content.

You are correct, but my focus was on when the current ESPN contract with BT expired.

Raider999 18-01-2021 22:19

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 36067095)
There's also a more mature service that is being added as well.

Perhaps you would like to elaborate?


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