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I thought the whole idea of streaming was that you could watch what you want when you want?
So you should be able to start watching a football match, that kicked off at 2pm, at 3pm and watch from the beginning. I.E. Time shifting as you would do with a recording from a conventional channel. However, you do not appear to be able to watch any of Amazon Primes live sport events after they have started. You have to wait until the full match replay becomes available the following day. Is this progress - definitely not. |
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The other which they are resolving is they mix paid content in with prime content often catching people out. |
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Anyway, the method of viewing it shouldn't alter the experience. Either you can start watching it at any time or you cannot - end of💩 As for the things that are wrong with Amazon Prime - picture quality is the biggest beef IMO. |
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On the VM V6 Amazon channel, I can only watch it live - on the Sony Smart TV Amazon Prime Video app, I can watch it live or watch it from beginning, with the ability ff/rewind what’s on. |
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So it looks like it's an active experience difference by Amazon as to the options available. Which due to how convoluted streaming rights are, may be down to the class of device. |
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Amazon have form for uneven deployment of features.
You can get a “free to me” menu option in some Prime Video deployments that allows you to weed out all the content that isn’t free with your prime subscription, whereas it’s missing on others. Netflix isn’t entirely consistent across platforms either, but in my experience it’s less of an issue. |
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Anyone watched the excellent show called The Queen's Gambit, it's on Netflix.
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Amazon Prime picture is terrible I've tried on numerous devices and all aren't good for tonight's live football.
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Strangely enough, the Sony Smart TV Amazon Prime App seemed clearer and very little lag, compared to the V6 Amazon channel red dot one...
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Having used Prime for numerous rugby and a couple of football matches over the past month, I would have to agree. It is nowhere near the expected standard IMO |
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Interesting article in the FT on Disney's move to streaming. Points include:
- Disney's TV channels are very profitable ($6bn annual income) but in decline. Disney Plus is growing but is unprofitable. - The growth of Disney Plus to 70m subscribers has led Disney to invest less in Hulu and not roll it out globally. Indian pay TV business Star is being invested in, though. - To match its cable profits, ESPN Plus would need to be priced at $40-$45 per month. Its 10m subscribers currently pay an average of $4.54 per month. ESPN traditional cable subscribers saw a decline from 90m in 2016 to 80m in 2020 but rights costs have risen. https://www.ft.com/content/cf22ac6b-...6-6689c625461d |
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As i reported awhile back Netflix prices in UK are going up, i think this may be a price rise too much for many https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/netfli...s-uk-going-up/
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Cordbusters :D
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https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...amming-digital
Interesting consultation. Streamers won't want to touch unprofitable content. PSBs probably keen to get some prominence as streamers as a result of delivering PSB. |
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There were some speculation months back they were looking at delivering local news - https://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/2...ice-in-offing/ And Sky Arts on Freeview could be interpreted as a way to start inching into the PSB space? |
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I still think Netflix is decent value, even if it does increase by £1. |
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Understand your point but Netflix is were I spend most of the limited TV watching time . Only bother with virgin TV as the package is not that much dearer than not having it ! And just using Freeview + now
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...source=twitter
Jeff Shell (NBCU CEO) confirms Peacock will not launch in the Sky territories. Shell added the international rollout for Peacock will avoid major markets like the UK, Germany and Italy where Comcast parent NBCUniversal has a major presence with Sky. "Peacock is a product we will use selectively in markets," he told investors, as the AVOD's programming will still land on Sky in the UK market. |
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Their non-live streaming was entirely what I'd have expected, but as far as the sports coverage was concerned, no it didn't tick the boxes. I know there were some other posts on another thread here to a similar effect, and I wish I could put my finger on what was missing. But comparing the live rugby streams with Sky/BT HD pictures, there was just no contest. |
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Had a whirly sign interrupt one of the England games (presumably buffering?) - not acceptable. The presentation was not as slick as Sky/BT - can forgive that as it was Amazon's first attempt. However, if rugby was to be on Prime all the time I would not be happy as it would mean an extra monthly cost. Progress - definitely not. |
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Disney+ have announced you guessed it price rises USA will go up by $1 EU will go up by 2euros no word on UK yet but i recon it'll be a £2 price rise.
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Disney+ will rise to £7.99p/m in the UK also Disney plan to have new releases on both D+ premier and cinemas simutaniously. Still decent value imo considering the content they have. Also yay 4 weeks off work nowe. |
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On one hand we are getting the price rise to 7.99 but the presentation didn’t specify the U.K and the presentation slides show pictures of the map of ‘Continental Europe’ only. https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/app...des-121020.pdf - I suspect the fact that BBC have the FX deal for some years and Sky having the pay tv window for 20th Century may prevent Star (assuming it launches) having a strong portfolio at launch. |
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They're waiting on the trade deal between the EU & UK.:D |
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As Disney co-owns Hulu with Comcast (will be 100% Disney owned in a few years) I suspect that it is chosing to role out this type of content under the Star brand instead of Hulu. I can understand if Comcast didn't want to invest in a service which competed with Sky and Peacock if it has a deal to sell its shares in Hulu. (Spelling of Hulu corrected per Phunkenstein) |
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Issue with Hulu is that while Disney have operational control, Comcast have their third of the business as you mention. The deal they signed essentially guarantees Comcast a certain amount (at least 5.8 Billion or the fair market value if above it) and either party can force the other to sell/buy in 2024 or thereabouts. Comcast would more than likely be ok for Hulu to roll out internationally as it they get the benefit of any increase in worth - launching Star on the other hand alleviates that issue as its essentially growing a Disney owned business already so the Star expansion is very much strategic and when Hulu is fully assumed by Disney, they would then have the freedom to rebrand and align the services more. |
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US consumers paying the price for streaming
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https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...-for-christmas
Sky & Amazon have signed a deal... going to be interesting to see how this affects the next PL auction and how aggressive (or not) the relevant parties will be... |
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Just as an aside, I was flicking through the Tesco magazine and they had an ad for Technika Smart TV with Fire TV built-in. Don't recall seeing Fire OS in a 3rd Party -branded device before.
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JVC sell some TV's with Fire OS on them in this country.
Also the Now TV app on my 4k Firestick doesn't framerate switch so unless you want to manually switch the video output of the stick to 50hz be prepared for jerky sports on it. |
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It also said sky/Amazon had come to an agreement over future EPL rights and the income from UK rights was likely to fall (already sky/BT have an agreement) So it wouldn't surprise me at all. |
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Anyone know how to get rid of the spinning Netflix loading ball?
On several films or TV programs I find I then click on them and they just have the loading ball going round and round and it never plays. |
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I've not seen that behaviour in the circumstances you seem to be having (am I right in understanding that it always prevents you watching certain titles, while always allowing others?)
The loading ball may hang on 25% for a while if you have low bandwidth. It will hang on 24% if you have no bandwidth at all. If your internet connection speed is unstable, you may see this behaviour if you have a moment of poor speed coinciding with you starting a new programme. Netflix's bandwidth-adaptive tech is second to none so it is quite rare even on a poor connection for a programme to stall once it's going and has a reasonable buffer. Have you tried going into your Netflix app's settings and running its internal speed/connectivity test? |
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Thanks Chris.
I'l take a look tonight and do a speed test. It does indeed only happen on certain programs. A reboot of my AppleTV sometimes sort sit out, but not always. |
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They can’t openly collude but they can remove incentive to outbid each other.
If Amazon’s plan is to have some games and market a Sports add on then the Now TV app allows them to do this without £5bn of risk. :) |
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Also says the anticipated bid from Amazon didn't materialise as Amazon do not want to commit to season-long multi-year contracts -as such I wouldn't expect Amazon to try to muscle in at the next EPL contract negotiations - probably pick off the occasional low hanging fruit that they currently have. As others have said they have 2 rounds of EPL around Christmas - good for getting new customers for Christmas shopping and the Autumn Cup Rugby led into Black Friday. ---------- Post added at 21:13 ---------- Previous post was at 21:13 ---------- Quote:
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I've seen reports on some other forums that the international rights are going to be more bundled than in the past, come this round of renewals. Sky have always had the summer international tours by virtue of their southern hemisphere rights, and do a decent enough job with those. But while the Six-Nations have traditionally been bundled and sold FTA, the November series have had some messy arrangements - there'd be no harm done by those being collectively sold. I'm in two minds whether the home nations should be on FTA or if them going to pay is justifiable for the increased rights income. |
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BT confirmed as continuing their coverage of Premiership Rugby - fee is less than CVC/Prem Rugby rejected in February - as a result of Covid I would imagine On the whole I would agree with your comments re BT coverage, the caveat I would like to see BT setting the games up on extra in a way they can be recorded. |
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Suspect the easiest way for “not openly colluding” is that Sky are unlikely to bid for rights BT currently hold and vice versa. This way it maintains their relative value to each other in their carriage agreements on each other’s platforms.
The challenge is if one of them, more likely BT perhaps, was to lose out to a third party. |
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Why is Netflix so restrictive when it comes to Universal Guides ?
https://www.techhive.com/article/359...take-note.html |
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Netflix is worried about losing control of its brand, which in part it communicates to its users via its own user interface. When a user enjoys a show made by Netflix, Netflix wants the viewer to attribute all their appreciation to Netflix. That is somewhat harder to ensure if the viewer journey doesn’t start and end at the Netflix UI. If you begin from a common menu structure run by Google you risk users attributing appreciation to Google instead. That’s what they’re worried about. |
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Yes, but surely if each programme starts with the 'Netflix' logo, there would not be any doubt as to where your content came from.
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Been quite a lot more too izombie was another had the Netflix logo as it started but infact it was made by CW. Amazon do exactly the same. |
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And there is the the fairly well known story the Channel 4 executive's daughter who told her dad about the wonderful Netflix show Peep Show...you can imagine her dad's reaction. :D I know someone who thought The Repair Shop was a Quest show...and the BBC plaster their logo on the front of everything...so even putting logos at the start of shows doesn't work on some people. |
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When any service provider is entirely reliant on a third party for product placement, that service provider becomes vulnerable. They no longer decide which of their shows come top of the menu. Worse, they may in time be asked to pay to appear, or pay more for prominence. If this occurs in an environment where it has become the norm for customers to access the product via a third party, the damage to the provider’s ability to get its product under the consumer’s nose may be significant. Netflix has clearly decided the risk of allowing Google to control the UI is too great, and that there is a greater potential benefit in continuing to control their own, separately. That’s why they’ve withdrawn from it. |
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Due to Brexit, Sky Go is no longer available outside the UK. I had assumed that the VM equivalent would be similarly affected, but it still says it's available in the EU:
https://www.virginmedia.com/help/vir...a%20connection. Maybe they will switch it off at 11pm tonight, unless it's another VM cock up! |
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I wasn't sure it ever worked outside the UK. Am sure I tried it last year and it never worked then.
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Had no issues with it when I used it in Berlin in October.
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https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...nema-customers
Sky again being aggressive in picking up content agreements for Sky Cinema - like the earlier deal with Entertainment One, this is another major indie distributor moving their pay tv deal from Amazon. |
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Not too much of a surprise - Sky need to fill the gap which Disney and 20th Century Studios will leave.
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Studiocanal and Entertainment One however are still in the business of mid-range, star driven films (as well as more British skewing movies) and I think those deals should help fill that gap nicely. |
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Those other films like Paddington and the Hurt Locker have been on the Sky Cinema channels for some time, so no great shakes there either. |
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I know, the Beeb is quite good at selecting films to show on their channels.
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Also Studiocanal (and what was formerly Optimum Releasing) have not had any pay tv window output deals with Sky for the best part of a decade so a significant number of those movies will be on Sky Cinema’s proposition for the first time including the Paddington movies. |
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It seems Disney + is the next streamer to raise prices and not even a year old.
The monthly price is set to rise from £5.99 to £7.99. Existing subscribers will stay at £5.99 until August 21. |
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I fully expect the price to settle at around £10.00pm to be honest. Maybe they will also introduce cheaper tiers with less content, fewer screens and not in UHD. |
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Will be interesting to see what happens to MGM, valued for its ownership of the James Bond franchise.
It put itself on the market a month ago for a reported $5bn and has previously held talks with Apple and Netflix but its asking price was reputedly too high for them. https://www.theguardian.com/business...or-sale-at-5bn |
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That will be so they can cash in on Cricket fans wanting to watch England's tour of India. |
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However, there is no doubt that the addition of Star and sports content will push the price up. |
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The confusion seems to have arisen in that instead of using the part-owned Hulu brand for their adult-orientated content, Disney will be using their Star brand from India, which is heavily associated with cricket coverage. However, it looks like it's just the brand that's being used and not the content. |
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