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madslug 21-07-2008 15:58

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phormwatch (Post 34605191)
Entity-Relationship diagram updated (July 21):

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9408/phormumlil1.jpg

Not to be forgotten : webwise.net and its various subdomains - the cookie king

Plus the 2 Korean companies and the NY marketing folk setting it up.

phormwatch 21-07-2008 16:01

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Yes, definitely. If someone could please list all the alias domains, that would be useful.

Dephormation 21-07-2008 16:09

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phormwatch (Post 34605196)
Yes, definitely. If someone could please list all the alias domains, that would be useful.

Lots on badphorm (including the weird PSInet server)

http://www.badphorm.co.uk/e107_plugi...topic.php?7062

Deko 21-07-2008 16:43

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Also check this list.

http://toolbar.netcraft.com/netblock...89.145.113.255

rryles 21-07-2008 16:54

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
I'm not sure how productive the inclusion of every domain and IP address will be as they change so often.

phormwatch 21-07-2008 17:00

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Latest:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1674/phormumlax4.jpg

Didn't include all domains because they actually resolve to different websites.

Peter N 21-07-2008 17:02

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Might be easier to just type a link to BadPhorm's list.

JHM 21-07-2008 17:47

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Another mainstream newspaper piece, this time in last Friday’s business section of theTelegraph.

EC concerned over Phorm’s advertising

The European Commission has warned the Government it needs to take action to protect consumer privacy due to concerns about targeted advertising company Phorm.

Phorm’s technology tracks consumer activity on the internet and the company has agreements with the UK’s three largest internet service providers, BT, Carphone Warehouse’s Talk Talk and Virgin Media. A Phorm spokesman said he was unaware of the development, adding the company complies with all the relevant UK laws.


--John

BadPhormula 21-07-2008 17:52

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phormwatch (Post 34605191)
Entity-Relationship diagram updated (July 21):

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9408/phormumlil1.jpg

You need to add naughty hacker Roman Gaufman (aka Hackeron) he is linked to

[ * ] 121Media (his employer)
[ * ] Stratis Scleparis (his BT collaborator)
[ * ] BT Retail (the place where he unleashed his malware)

icsys 21-07-2008 18:19

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JHM (Post 34605222)
Another mainstream newspaper piece, this time in last Friday’s business section of theTelegraph.

EC concerned over Phorm’s advertising

The European Commission has warned the Government it needs to take action to protect consumer privacy due to concerns about targeted advertising company Phorm.

Phorm’s technology tracks consumer activity on the internet and the company has agreements with the UK’s three largest internet service providers, BT, Carphone Warehouse’s Talk Talk and Virgin Media. A Phorm spokesman said he was unaware of the development, adding the company complies with all the relevant UK laws.


--John

Seeing as The Telegraph have expressed interest to join the OIX, I wonder if this piece of excellent [but factually inaccurate] reporting will make them reconsider?

Rchivist 21-07-2008 18:36

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by icsys (Post 34605244)
Seeing as The Telegraph have expressed interest to join the OIX, I wonder if this piece of excellent [but factually inaccurate] reporting will make them reconsider?

That's obviously come from the same press release as inspired the FT article as it has the same mistakes about CPW, and VM and "trials".

Okay - here we go again. Phorm PR obviously still totally useless.

Anyone got the full text? reading it more carefully (slap self on wrist) the text you quoted doesn't repeat the claims about 3 ISPs doing trials, but I wonder if VM and CPW would be happy about the text claiming Phorm has "agreements" with them? I thought only BT had an agreement and VM had a memorandum of understanding, and CPW was just keeping its head down and hoping no one noticed?

CWH 21-07-2008 18:43

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Just a small note regarding the relationship diagram.
121Media is still in existence, except now it's a subsidiary of Phorm.

Colin

icsys 21-07-2008 18:45

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R Jones (Post 34605253)
That's obviously come from the same press release as inspired the FT article as it has the same mistakes about CPW, and VM and "trials".

Okay - here we go again. Phorm PR obviously still totally useless.

It could simply be 'copycat journalism', in which case it is the editors fault for failing to substantiate the content of the article.

tdadyslexia 21-07-2008 19:12

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
The petition is up to 15,721 Signatures Total on 21/07/2008 :angel:

Rchivist 21-07-2008 20:13

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by R Jones (Post 34605095)
Thanks for that piece of independent googling. I'll email the gentleman with the initials JR. :D

Got a reply but holiday season has intervened so I'll have to wait another week or so for a genuine personal response.


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