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TimeLord2018 06-05-2022 08:27
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36121229)
That would be a reasonable assumption, except for the fact that Disney made this very error when it launched in late 2019 (spring 2020 in the UK). They traded on their back catalogue for far too long and I’m not convinced the Star branded stream within the main Disney+ app was part of the original plan - it really doesn’t fit the branding it has otherwise used, which is based on established feature film production company brands, and looks very much bolted on, as if they felt they needed to add a lot of new and original material quickly, and the very modest pipeline of TV shows based mostly on movies out of their Marvel and Star Wars properties wasn’t going to produce enough content, quickly enough.
It was originally going to be Hulu
https://techcrunch.com/2020/02/05/di...nally-in-2021/

But They choose Star as the brand rather than Hulu for financial reasons.

With NBC Universal owning 33% of Hulu, so launching the new service as Star, it wouldn’t increase the value of Hulu, resulting in Disney having to pay more to Comcast when it buys out their existing contract In 2024

General Maximus 12-05-2022 08:47
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In contrast to Netflix's recent downturn in subscribers, Disney+ continues to grow at a phenomenal rate:

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Disney’s flagship streamer gained 7.9 million paid customers in the first three months of 2022, to stand at 137.7 million, up 33 year over year. Analysts on average expected Disney+ to net 5.2 million new subscribers, per FactSet.

The results stand in contrast to streaming rival Netflix, which reported a loss of 200,000 streaming subscribers for the same period and forecast a 2 million drop for Q2.
https://variety.com/2022/digital/new...gs-1235264311/

BenMcr 12-05-2022 09:06
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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36122067)
In contrast to Netflix's recent downturn in subscribers, Disney+ continues to grow at a phenomenal rate:

https://variety.com/2022/digital/new...gs-1235264311/
There is bound to be a saturation point for any streamer where everyone that wants it has it, for me all that above means is Disney+ hasn't got there yet.

Considering the age difference between Netflix and Disney+ it's not yet clear for me whether there is any long term difference or if that at some point what's currently happening with Netflix will happen to Disney+

General Maximus 12-05-2022 09:12
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Yeah, i would think it would be higher than Netflix though. Between Disney, Star Wars and Marvel you would think 80% of people would want it. I think they could easily hit 300 million.

jfman 12-05-2022 10:17
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They are still very much in loss leader mode. With mobile networks and others offering heavily discounted subscription options. While they do have the benefit that Netflix doesn’t of a massive back catalogue, and aren’t likely to drown under the weight of hundreds of billions of debt, it’s not really representative of the market as a whole.

Media Boy UK 12-05-2022 15:45
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911 Lone Star is moving from Sky UK to Disney+

https://www.geektown.co.uk/2022/05/1...-disney-in-uk/

TimeLord2018 12-05-2022 15:50
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It won't be the last time something moves I suspect, Disney are taking back as much of their content as possible , Godfather Of Harlem S3 - StarzPlay acquired the first 2 seasons before Star launched and the existing FX shows on the BBC are other possibilities - Disney didn’t renew the FX deal with the BBC.

Family Guy and Bob Burgers now premiere on Disney+ aswell.

BenMcr 12-05-2022 16:08
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Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36122110)
and the existing FX shows on the BBC are other possibilities - Disney didn’t renew the FX deal with the BBC.
S3 of What We Do In The Shadows is still only on iPlayer and in HD. Disney+ has S1/S2 in 4K

TimeLord2018 12-05-2022 21:25
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Ending License Deals early has cost Disney $1 billion apparently
https://whatsondisneyplus.com/ending...ney-1-billion/

General Maximus 12-05-2022 21:35
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Wow. I wondered how that worked when Netflix presumably paid to have the Marvel series for a certain amount of time and they are a big enough company to not let themselves be bullied into giving them back.

Aguero9320 13-05-2022 08:55
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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36122109)
911 Lone Star is moving from Sky UK to Disney+

https://www.geektown.co.uk/2022/05/1...-disney-in-uk/
It's now followed The Resident in recent months. I wouldn't be surprised if 9-1-1, Grey's Anatomy and Station 19 follow suit in the next 12 months. Breeders is also rumoured to follow suit, too.

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Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36122110)
Godfather Of Harlem S3 - StarzPlay acquired the first 2 seasons before Star launched
I knew Starz acquired the show, but not just S1+2. Have you got a source for this, TimeLord?

General Maximus 13-05-2022 12:35
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Grey's Anatomy and Station 19 follow suit in the next 12 months.
I thought they were on ABC and Sky already had an ABC equivalent channel (Sky Witness) in the UK. I don't see how or why Disney+ would have influence over that or want those series. It is like Asda saying they are putting a Sainsbury's carwash in their car park.

TimeLord2018 13-05-2022 12:40
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It's now followed The Resident in recent months. I wouldn't be surprised if 9-1-1, Grey's Anatomy and Station 19 follow suit in the next 12 months. Breeders is also rumoured to follow suit, too.

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I knew Starz acquired the show, but not just S1+2. Have you got a source for this, TimeLord?
No but it's unlikely they have a lifetime deal, they acquired it about 8 months after season 2 had been commissioned

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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36122234)
I thought they were on ABC and Sky already had an ABC equivalent channel (Sky Witness) in the UK. I don't see how or why Disney+ would have influence over that or want those series. It is like Asda saying they are putting a Sainsbury's carwash in their car park.
Of course they have influence Disney own the shows , it depends what their contract with Sky actually is , Disney strategy is taking back their own content and making it exclusive to Disney+ like what their just done with 911:Lone Star, most ABC Studios (now known as ABC Signature) content has now gone from Amazon Prime , all seasons of Criminal Minds , Lost , Scandal , Greys Anatomy amongst others were removed from Amazon Prime in April.

1andrew1 13-05-2022 14:28
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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 36122234)
I thought they were on ABC and Sky already had an ABC equivalent channel (Sky Witness) in the UK. I don't see how or why Disney+ would have influence over that or want those series. It is like Asda saying they are putting a Sainsbury's carwash in their car park.
ABC is a Disney-owned channel, not a Comcast-owned channel. The days of when Sky was the first choice UK broadcaster for US content seem to be diminishing since the launch of Disney+. I suspect the difference will become more stark if as expected, HBO Max launches in the UK in 2025.

Providing the licence with Sky has ended or Disney is happy to pay Sky compensation for early termination, then Disney can move its content to Disney +. Apparently, it paid TV platforms $1bn as early termination compensation in its latest accounts.

I imagine all box series from Fox/Hulu/Disney will move to Disney+ in time with only films and pay-per-episode available on other platforms.

General Maximus 13-05-2022 15:04
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Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36122235)
Criminal Minds , Lost , Scandal , Greys Anatomy amongst others were removed from Amazon Prime in April.
for the traditional viewer which is non-Disney and non-scifi having quality series like those is a great way to provide quality content and a bit of something for everyone outside of Lucasfilm and Marvel.


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