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Ooh, what a surprise - some Christians are over the top, and have been indoctrinating their daughter. :shocked:

Ergo, all Christians are tainted by this. :dozey:

Be careful of the precedents you try to outline, otherwise other posters may point out some bad indoctrination practices by well-known atheists (20th Century leaders ;) ).

However, it is my belief that individuals do not represent communities, be the faith or atheist, and should not be used to "tar" those communities :)

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The ending is really upsetting. she's a scared girl. she doesn't know anything. all she knows is what she's been told over the years :(

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Anyone would have thought I'd not posted a truly inspirational clip of a young man born without arms or legs who turned his life around by following Christ....

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Russ. calm down. we can't watch 2 things at once :rolleyes:

I've watched it, and in all seriousness, it doesn't really compare to the other one.

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But clearly can watch and post on here at the same time ;)

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Well I have a widescreen monitor and a pair of ears if my eyes get distracted :)

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Well be sure to post your thoughts on the clip I posted. Truly inspirational and shows what the power of God in people's lives can do.

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I have watched it Russ. and I'm happy for him that he's got that attitude. but did he have a different attitude before where he hated himself for how he was and the belief of God made him a different person?

What are your thoughts on Deborah?

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She's terrified and only thirteen years old.

The whole program would be an education to some on here.

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I think it would be an education. and I want everyone that watched it to admit that it wasn't only me that cried for her :)

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It can be an education but you still can't brand every man or woman of faith with the same iron. And this can be said for atheists, there are few I will give reading time to, if your to read into atheism I suggest Barker, Hitchens, Dennett, Harris, and Dawkins.

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I don't think that all people of faith are the same. the mother in the film said that she was only planning on having 2 children, but left it up to God to control the opening and closing of the womb to determine how many she eventually had.

there's a difference between belief and faith and fact. when one says it is fact and the other says it's belief then that's where we have a problem.

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I think 'someone' enjoyed sex more than they will preach!!

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One word ... doppelgänger .... jog on.

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"a ghostly double or counterpart of a living person"
Doppelgänger

I'm sorry I don't speak gibberish, any chance you could explain what on earth your talking about?

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I've got no idea and that doesn't make any difference really. What stands out more is he's an excellent example of someone living their life with God through massive adversity.

Every section of society has extremist, her family especially. Of course, you don't think they represent anything more than the minority, right?