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Hugh 11-11-2020 17:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36057596)
You know very well that I am comparing our conventional channels with broadcasts via IPTV. Why the pedantry? Let’s have discussions instead of playing games.

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Andrew, don’t be daft. You are expecting precise numbers now!

What I will say is that broadband speeds fast enough to view streaming videos should be available to all but a very small number by 2025. Hasn’t the government committed to super-fast broadband? That is my recollection, without looking it up.

Substantially replaced means just that. The vast majority, if not all.

EDIT: Just looked it up.

“ Boris Johnson’s Government has adopted a target to deliver “gigabit-capable broadband” nationwide by 2025.”
But, but, but...

"Linear is old tech - on demand is the future"

OLD BOY 11-11-2020 18:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36057602)
May l remind you targets are one thing but deliverance of those targets is another...
Nevertheless, predictions of the future need to be based on known knowns.

:D

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057603)
But, but, but...

"Linear is old tech - on demand is the future"
Linear = conventional channels in this sense. That is how the media was referring to them at the time, and some still are.

Linear will still be important for live broadcasts, but they will be streamed. Everything pre-recorded will end up on demand only.

I dare say there might still be some niche streamers like Pluto offering linear channels as well, but they will only appeal to a minority.

Hugh 11-11-2020 19:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36057625)
Nevertheless, predictions of the future need to be based on known knowns.

:D

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Linear = conventional channels in this sense. That is how the media was referring to them at the time, and some still are.

Linear will still be important for live broadcasts, but they will be streamed. Everything pre-recorded will end up on demand only.

I dare say there might still be some niche streamers like Pluto offering linear channels as well, but they will only appeal to a minority.
Not what you said in 2017, in the first post in a thread you started...

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33705051

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Well, that's what Virgin Media seem to think, and this interesting piece suggests that our cableco at least is set to move on from the traditional scheduled TV means of providing content.

OLD BOY 11-11-2020 21:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057633)
Not what you said in 2017, in the first post in a thread you started...

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...php?t=33705051
What are you trying to imply?

Hugh 11-11-2020 22:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36057655)
What are you trying to imply?
I’m not trying to imply anything - i’m stating you initially said that cablecos were set to move on from the traditional scheduled TV, and now you’re saying that scheduled TV could be delivered over IPTV.

OLD BOY 11-11-2020 22:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057659)
I’m not trying to imply anything - i’m stating you initially said that cablecos were set to move on from the traditional scheduled TV, and now you’re saying that scheduled TV could be delivered over IPTV.
Only live streaming services. Not pre-recorded programmes, which represent the vast majority of TV programmes.

I've always acknowledged the need for live TV for sport, live shows, etc. But my point is that live TV will be streamed, and pre-recorded material will be via VOD.

I really don't see why you are confused over this.

jfman 11-11-2020 22:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36057663)
Only live streaming services. Not pre-recorded programmes, which represent the vast majority of TV programmes.

I've always acknowledged the need for live TV for sport, live shows, etc. But my point is that live TV will be streamed, and pre-recorded material will be via VOD.

I really don't see why you are confused over this.
Your misuse of the word ‘linear’ perhaps?

OLD BOY 11-11-2020 22:25
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36057666)
Your misuse of the word ‘linear’ perhaps?
:rolleyes::sleep:

jfman 11-11-2020 22:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36057669)
:rolleyes::sleep:
Taken from a recent OFCOM report:

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/asse.../km_report.pdf

Quote:
Understanding viewing behaviours and motivations

Linear TV valued for in-the-moment viewing across all age groups

The vast majority of participants favoured linear viewing of ‘event TV’ content, to avoid spoilers and be part of the conversation surrounding the broadcast. In particular, they strongly preferred linear viewing of live sports events and, to a lesser extent, drama series and soaps. Linear viewing was also valued by most participants for offering a familiar, effortless and often more passive viewing experience with scheduled content served to them. However, several participants identified more negative aspects of linear viewing, such as the irritation of adverts and repeats, and the lack of personalisation when compared to on-demand services.
Note that nowhere does it define linear television by technology used to deliver it.

OLD BOY 11-11-2020 23:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36057681)
Taken from a recent OFCOM report:

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/asse.../km_report.pdf



Note that nowhere does it define linear television by technology used to deliver it.
So what? Ofcom will use the correct terminology of course, but the media was not back in 2014/15.

jfman 11-11-2020 23:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36057686)
So what? Ofcom will use the correct terminology of course, but the media was not back in 2014/15.
So what?

I think details are important Old Boy. That’s what.

I’ve now spent part of the last day and a half reading your posts and getting contradicted by Chris, Hugh and others and it still isn’t obvious to me your position on technology agnostic linear television - in line with the OFCOM definition above - where someone could click a button on an app, or go to a number on an EPG, and watch endless content as scheduled by a broadcaster. This content would be in no way tailored to them - an almost unlimited number of people could go to the same channel/app and watch the same scheduled programming at the exact same time.

So please clarify will this exist in your vision of 20x5? This could be delivered by absolutely anyone - Netflix, Sky, Amazon, BBC, ITV, etc.

Hugh 12-11-2020 00:08
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Linear means what Old Boy wants it to mean at the time - Schrödinger‘s linear (the outcome will depend on the observer)...

OLD BOY 12-11-2020 07:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36057688)
So what?

I think details are important Old Boy. That’s what.

I’ve now spent part of the last day and a half reading your posts and getting contradicted by Chris, Hugh and others and it still isn’t obvious to me your position on technology agnostic linear television - in line with the OFCOM definition above - where someone could click a button on an app, or go to a number on an EPG, and watch endless content as scheduled by a broadcaster. This content would be in no way tailored to them - an almost unlimited number of people could go to the same channel/app and watch the same scheduled programming at the exact same time.

So please clarify will this exist in your vision of 20x5? This could be delivered by absolutely anyone - Netflix, Sky, Amazon, BBC, ITV, etc.
You are missing the point. You keep asking the same questions and making the same points and not listening to the answers. I agree that the word 'linear' was not an appropriate word to use because streaming is also linear. It was a shorthand for our conventional TV channels used by the media. In their minds, it was the difference between those channels and on demand, which is not linear.

So, in the future, in my view, the choice will be mainly between a huge selection of videos which you can select as required, and streaming for live TV. There may well be some streamers, like Pluto and Now TV, that also offer channels as they do now, but this type of viewing will not appeal to the majority and will not capture a mass audience. Our main TV channels like BBC and ITV will present their offerings in much the same way as Britbox does, but I don't think that the i-Player will break up their offerings by channel, but by category. Live TV will be accessible through streams available on the OTT application itself, and this will be the linear option.

I have said all this before, but if something is confusing you, tell me what it is and I'll answer it.

Chris 12-11-2020 07:44
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In the future you have just sketched out, where broadcasters are still interested in delivering a linear broadcast schedule, then no matter how shiny their iPlayer is they will still operate over conventional broadcast technologies like digital terrestrial and satellite. They will do this because it costs a small fraction of what it costs to broadcast over the internet, because it is easier to deliver at high quality to 100% of consumers 100% of the time, and because, unless the terms of their public service obligation change radically in the meantime, they are obliged to be available on those platforms (for the reasons above, because universal availability is one of the key considerations in British public service broadcasting).

1andrew1 12-11-2020 08:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36057703)
In the future you have just sketched out, where broadcasters are still interested in delivering a linear broadcast schedule, then no matter how shiny their iPlayer is they will still operate over conventional broadcast technologies like digital terrestrial and satellite. They will do this because it costs a small fraction of what it costs to broadcast over the internet, because it is easier to deliver at high quality to 100% of consumers 100% of the time, and because, unless the terms of their public service obligation change radically in the meantime, they are obliged to be available on those platforms (for the reasons above, because universal availability is one of the key considerations in British public service broadcasting).
Agreed. Which is why one of the pillars of Old Boy's argument - namely that the UK follows the US - is flawed. It does not take account of the two distinct regulatory environments each country's broadcasters operate under. We might have a lot of the same big players in the market like Comcast and Disney and the same technology. But drill down to the regulations, and we're two different beasts.

jfman 12-11-2020 11:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36057702)
You are missing the point. You keep asking the same questions and making the same points and not listening to the answers. I agree that the word 'linear' was not an appropriate word to use because streaming is also linear. It was a shorthand for our conventional TV channels used by the media. In their minds, it was the difference between those channels and on demand, which is not linear.

So, in the future, in my view, the choice will be mainly between a huge selection of videos which you can select as required, and streaming for live TV. There may well be some streamers, like Pluto and Now TV, that also offer channels as they do now, but this type of viewing will not appeal to the majority and will not capture a mass audience. Our main TV channels like BBC and ITV will present their offerings in much the same way as Britbox does, but I don't think that the i-Player will break up their offerings by channel, but by category. Live TV will be accessible through streams available on the OTT application itself, and this will be the linear option.

I have said all this before, but if something is confusing you, tell me what it is and I'll answer it.
I’m unsure of the value in asking you further questions as you’ve not answered the last one.

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I’ve now spent part of the last day and a half reading your posts and getting contradicted by Chris, Hugh and others and it still isn’t obvious to me your position on technology agnostic linear television - in line with the OFCOM definition above - where someone could click a button on an app, or go to a number on an EPG, and watch endless content as scheduled by a broadcaster. This content would be in no way tailored to them - an almost unlimited number of people could go to the same channel/app and watch the same scheduled programming at the exact same time.

So please clarify will this exist in your vision of 20x5? This could be delivered by absolutely anyone - Netflix, Sky, Amazon, BBC, ITV, etc.
I’ve put in bold the key part. The stream broadcasts continuously to a schedule, decided by the broadcaster, 24 hours per day. Everyone watching it at the exact same time sees the exact same thing

Will this exist - yes or no?

johnasimmons 12-11-2020 12:49
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These two (Old Boy & jfman) remind me of Trump & Biden... :p:

1andrew1 12-11-2020 12:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 36057737)
These two (Old Boy & jfman) remind me of Trump & Biden... :p:
Reminds me of Sir Keir trying to pin BoJo down "Will this exist - yes or no?" :D

johnasimmons 12-11-2020 12:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36057738)
Reminds me of Sir Keir trying to pin BoJo down "Will this exist - yes or no?" :D
Bojo is a apt nickname as he is the biggest clown in politics!!!! :D

1andrew1 12-11-2020 23:23
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A quick update that Disney + now has 73.7m subscribers, nearly a year after it launched. https://www.ft.com/content/41432a1c-...e-265efc868f09

muppetman11 13-11-2020 12:13
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I've been using the Apple TV + service a bit , I'm not sure currently I'd pay £4.99 for it but it has some good shows and the picture quality is excellent.

Raider999 13-11-2020 21:34
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Purely because I want to watch the Autumn Cup Rugby Internationals, I purchased a roku box and have taken up the free 30 day Amazon Prime offer.

I may well keep Prime for an extra month to watch the 2 exclusive rounds of EPL in December (didn't bother with them last season).

Can anyone please tell me -

If I want to watch England v Georgia tomorrow, do I have to watch it live or can I start the streaming a few hours later and watch the whole game as live?

Legendkiller2k 14-11-2020 00:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36058046)
Purely because I want to watch the Autumn Cup Rugby Internationals, I purchased a roku box and have taken up the free 30 day Amazon Prime offer.

I may well keep Prime for an extra month to watch the 2 exclusive rounds of EPL in December (didn't bother with them last season).

Can anyone please tell me -

If I want to watch England v Georgia tomorrow, do I have to watch it live or can I start the streaming a few hours later and watch the whole game as live?
Keep a eye out as towards Black Friday prime tends to go for £49 for the year.

Raider999 14-11-2020 12:13
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36058096)
Keep a eye out as towards Black Friday prime tends to go for £49 for the year.

Thanks for the heads up - as I have already started my trial, not sure if I would be able to get that offer?

Also at present Prime has things I want to watch in the next 2 months, however currently nothing for the next 10 months so an annual sub would be a waste.

I am sure OB will tell me they will have rights to lots of sport in the coming year but I doubt it at present.

Legendkiller2k 14-11-2020 12:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36058156)
Thanks for the heads up - as I have already started my trial, not sure if I would be able to get that offer?

Also at present Prime has things I want to watch in the next 2 months, however currently nothing for the next 10 months so an annual sub would be a waste.

I am sure OB will tell me they will have rights to lots of sport in the coming year but I doubt it at present.
Yeah you'd get it i think i got the prime day one last year £59 and i had a trial in the past too.

They do have a lot of content tbf i find prime a bit better than Netflix for included movies but netflix better for included shows.

Raider999 14-11-2020 12:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36058168)
Yeah you'd get it i think i got the prime day one last year £59 and i had a trial in the past too.

They do have a lot of content tbf i find prime a bit better than Netflix for included movies but netflix better for included shows.
Possibly, but then I don't watch Netflix or films - only got Prime for the Autumn Rugby - didn't even bother with it last year for the 2 December round of EPL.

OLD BOY 14-11-2020 18:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36058156)
Thanks for the heads up - as I have already started my trial, not sure if I would be able to get that offer?

Also at present Prime has things I want to watch in the next 2 months, however currently nothing for the next 10 months so an annual sub would be a waste.

I am sure OB will tell me they will have rights to lots of sport in the coming year but I doubt it at present.
I really have no idea whether Amazon will be involved, mate. Who told you that?

Raider999 14-11-2020 19:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36058212)
The problem you have here, jfman, is that my message has remained the same after all this time.

I'm not sure what point you are making here. Clearly, something is confusing you, but I can't make out what it is. Could you explain yourself a little more clearly, please.

What is this question you want me to answer? I was unaware that you were waiting anything from me.

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I really have no idea whether Amazon will be involved, mate. Who told you that?
You are the one who keeps telling us Amazon will be winning EPL rights at the next round of bidding (or the next, or the next).

My first experience of streaming was not a great experience - watched 2 rugby internationals this afternoon - the picture quality was nowhere near HD standard (even my wife commented on the poor PQ) and the action didn't seem to flow as well as it does on Sky/BT.

I have yet to discover the answer to a question I have - can I watch these live matches any time in their entirety or only when they are actually live?

Legendkiller2k 14-11-2020 20:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36058215)
You are the one who keeps telling us Amazon will be winning EPL rights at the next round of bidding (or the next, or the next).

My first experience of streaming was not a great experience - watched 2 rugby internationals this afternoon - the picture quality was nowhere near HD standard (even my wife commented on the poor PQ) and the action didn't seem to flow as well as it does on Sky/BT.

I have yet to discover the answer to a question I have - can I watch these live matches any time in their entirety or only when they are actually live?
The matches are available in their entirety via vod.

Mick 15-11-2020 21:10
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26 posts of bickering and argumentative and totally unnecessary arguing to nearly 4AM now deleted - Ridiculous !

ALL Members are reminded that:

1) No bickering with each other.

2) No getting personal with each other.

While swearing has been allowed and is more relaxed on the forum - It is absolutely a no no, swearing and being abusive at each other - I will not tolerate it. 1 Week topic bans have been issued.

vincerooney 15-11-2020 22:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36058381)
26 posts of bickering and argumentative and totally unnecessary arguing to nearly 4AM now deleted - Ridiculous !

ALL Members are reminded that:

1) No bickering with each other.

2) No getting personal with each other.

While swearing has been allowed and is more relaxed on the forum - It is absolutely a no no, swearing and being abusive at each other - I will not tolerate it. 1 Week topic bans have been issued.
hahah blooming heck what did i miss here. I wish i could post the "boy that escalated quick" GIF.

I've got a yearly subscription to apple tv for free. havent really given it a go. Is it any good?

Legendkiller2k 15-11-2020 23:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36058395)
hahah blooming heck what did i miss here. I wish i could post the "boy that escalated quick" GIF.

I've got a yearly subscription to apple tv for free. havent really given it a go. Is it any good?
It has some decent stuff on it shows see, dickinson, defending jacob are a couple i personally recommend.

muppetman11 16-11-2020 00:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36058395)
hahah blooming heck what did i miss here. I wish i could post the "boy that escalated quick" GIF.

I've got a yearly subscription to apple tv for free. havent really given it a go. Is it any good?
Defending Jacob was pretty good.

cupcakes aka dd 16-11-2020 08:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36057879)
I've been using the Apple TV + service a bit , I'm not sure currently I'd pay £4.99 for it but it has some good shows and the picture quality is excellent.
Ted Lasso brilliant

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Foundation coming soon

johnasimmons 16-11-2020 09:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36058381)
26 posts of bickering and argumentative and totally unnecessary arguing to nearly 4AM now deleted - Ridiculous !

ALL Members are reminded that:

1) No bickering with each other.

2) No getting personal with each other.

While swearing has been allowed and is more relaxed on the forum - It is absolutely a no no, swearing and being abusive at each other - I will not tolerate it. 1 Week topic bans have been issued.
:clap:

Mad Max 16-11-2020 14:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36058395)
hahah blooming heck what did i miss here. I wish i could post the "boy that escalated quick" GIF.

I've got a yearly subscription to apple tv for free. havent really given it a go. Is it any good?
Did you buy one of Apple's products, Vince?

Phunkenstein 16-11-2020 14:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36058395)
hahah blooming heck what did i miss here. I wish i could post the "boy that escalated quick" GIF.

I've got a yearly subscription to apple tv for free. havent really given it a go. Is it any good?
Not watched much on it but Ted Lasso is a real surprise... everything about it screams disaster but it just works. Beastie Boys Movie is a treat but probably more for fans (same with the Springsteen doc) and On The Rocks is a nice little movie. Going to try and watch a few more things if I can over the next year or so while I have it for free...

Mad Max 16-11-2020 14:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36058442)
Not watched much on it but Ted Lasso is a real surprise... everything about it screams disaster but it just works. Beastie Boys Movie is a treat but probably more for fans (same with the Springsteen doc) and On The Rocks is a nice little movie. Going to try and watch a few more things if I can over the next year or so while I have it for free...
Yeah, I had a quick look at that, looks pretty good imo.

vincerooney 17-11-2020 23:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36058439)
Did you buy one of Apple's products, Vince?
well technically i just got a new phone contract with o2 but i suppose that counts as getting their products!

muppetman11 19-11-2020 17:03
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Anyone tried Discovery + yet ? I noticed its shown up on my Sky Q box today but I've not yet activated the years free trial.

Legendkiller2k 19-11-2020 17:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36058866)
Anyone tried Discovery + yet ? I noticed its shown up on my Sky Q box today but I've not yet activated the years free trial.
I've activated it you can log in via other devices too once set up, i watched a bit of discovery channel live on my shield and quality is pretty good.

muppetman11 19-11-2020 17:58
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Is it decent picture quality ?

ozsat 19-11-2020 18:27
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I've only looked at the Savile documentary so far which is mainly old footage.

Some people seem to be having problems activating it with the free 12 months on SkyQ but it worked fine here using my phone.

Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36058866)
Anyone tried Discovery + yet ? I noticed its shown up on my Sky Q box today but I've not yet activated the years free trial.

Legendkiller2k 19-11-2020 19:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36058881)
Is it decent picture quality ?
Yeah i watched on a 43inch LG tv and pic quality was superb looked HD to me.

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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36058885)
I've only looked at the Savile documentary so far which is mainly old footage.

Some people seem to be having problems activating it with the free 12 months on SkyQ but it worked fine here using my phone.
I had issues at first but waited a couple of hours and i got it activated no problem.

muppetman11 25-11-2020 15:24
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Entertainment One agrees new Sky Cinema deal

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...y-cinema-deal/

Phunkenstein 25-11-2020 16:04
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36059643)
Entertainment One agrees new Sky Cinema deal

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...y-cinema-deal/
Interesting one this as Entertainment One were one of the first U.K. distributors to set an exclusive deal with a streamer back in 2011 when they signed a deal with Lovefilm which eventually became Amazon Prime.

With the ever diminishing Disney catalogue and fewer theatrical releases coming from the major studios, this is a big win for Sky especially in terms of the catalogue which should add a fair number of older movies that never appeared on Sky due to EOne’s Amazon first window & Netflix second window deals such as Looper & Now You See Me which are already on the service.

Legendkiller2k 25-11-2020 17:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36059643)
Entertainment One agrees new Sky Cinema deal

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...y-cinema-deal/
That'll please OB and his theories lol.

RichardCoulter 27-11-2020 11:11
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​There's some good Black Friday deals to be had on Now TV and i've just read that Netflix can be had for £3.50 A month for Sky subscribers!

buckeye 27-11-2020 11:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36059948)
​There's some good Black Friday deals to be had on Now TV
Where did you find those?
Can you share them please? I can't find any decent Black Friday deals for Now TV :(

Legendkiller2k 27-11-2020 13:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 36059957)
Where did you find those?
Can you share them please? I can't find any decent Black Friday deals for Now TV :(
Be in your nowtv account under offers cinema £6.99p/m entertainment £4.99p/m sport £20p/m

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36059948)
​There's some good Black Friday deals to be had on Now TV and i've just read that Netflix can be had for £3.50 A month for Sky subscribers!
Netflix is £5p/m through sky, there is a offer though if you take cinema and Netflix together not sure what it is as i already have Cinema for £3.50p/m.
Netflix i only pat £2.45p/m anyway as used a Turkish vpn to sign up.

cupcakes aka dd 27-11-2020 13:52
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Prime members Starzplay 99p for 3 months.

denphone 27-11-2020 19:58
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A lot of sound problems with the football on Amazon Prime tonight thus so far.

OLD BOY 27-11-2020 23:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36060041)
A lot of sound problems with the football on Amazon Prime tonight thus so far.
Practice makes perfect!

Seriously, that is a problem and needs to be addressed. And as I was alluding to, that's why Amazon needed a trial run with a minor package.

Only when they have addressed these will they make a major bid.

jfman 27-11-2020 23:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36060065)
Practice makes perfect!

Seriously, that is a problem and needs to be addressed. And as I was alluding to, that's why Amazon needed a trial run with a minor package.

Only when they have addressed these will they make a major bid.
Other companies have been streaming HD content online for years without issue.

It's amateur hour if you are suggesting this is in any way acceptable or a 'trial'. This is supposedly the most attractive sports content in the world.

Hugh 27-11-2020 23:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36060065)
Practice makes perfect!

Seriously, that is a problem and needs to be addressed. And as I was alluding to, that's why Amazon needed a trial run with a minor package.

Only when they have addressed these will they make a major bid.
Mental note: if OB is a surgeon, book someone else... :D

OLD BOY 28-11-2020 00:25
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36060075)
Other companies have been streaming HD content online for years without issue.

It's amateur hour if you are suggesting this is in any way acceptable or a 'trial'. This is supposedly the most attractive sports content in the world.
Other companies? Amazon had to test itself itself!

What planet are you on?

Hugh 28-11-2020 00:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36060087)
Other companies? Amazon had to test itself itself!

What planet are you on?

"Itself itself"?

Is there a flaw in the matrix?

OLD BOY 28-11-2020 00:28
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36060078)
Mental note: if OB is a surgeon, book someone else... :D
Off topic. I don’t do operations.

:notopic:

As a moderator, Hugh, you should be ashamed.

If you disagree with me, just say so, and why.

Of course, you won’t.

jfman 28-11-2020 00:32
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36060087)
Other companies? Amazon had to test itself itself!

What planet are you on?
With their “deep pockets” they couldn’t hire experts and consultants from the industry who have been streaming HD for years?

Interesting.

OLD BOY 28-11-2020 00:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36060089)
"Itself itself"?

Is there a flaw in the matrix?
Yes, that should have read ‘itself for itself’.

But then, you knew then, anyway, didn’t you?

Why are you, as moderator, being such a troll? Sorry, but please get yourself together. Typos happen all the time, and some are pretty obvious, at least to most of us.

If I have over-estimated you, Hugh, please accept my deepest apologies.

:wavey:

jfman 28-11-2020 00:48
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Another Old Boy Friday night.

Join us in 7 days after his holiday from the thread expires.

Legendkiller2k 28-11-2020 02:40
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36060041)
A lot of sound problems with the football on Amazon Prime tonight thus so far.
No issues here but i was watching on Peacock tbf and they've been doing live sport streaming a lot longer via nbcsports/gold.

Allthough the match itself was a borefest lol.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36060087)
Other companies? Amazon had to test itself itself!

What planet are you on?
Erm NBC, DAZN, Supersports, STARSPORTS, Oppussport, NOWTV, BT etc.

1andrew1 28-11-2020 08:33
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36060087)
Other companies? Amazon had to test itself itself!

What planet are you on?
As others have said, sports streaming is ancient - Eurosport Player is 12 years old. Back in 2008, Virgin Media didn't even have Tivo!

The only things being tested here are forum members' intelligence and viewers' patience.

What Amazon will be analysing is the uptake in Prime subscriptions, retention of sports viewers v £ spent on each sport, etc.

jfman 29-11-2020 14:09
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Amazon want to have a word with Premier Sports. Currently enjoying HD quality Scottish football streamed from my Android phone to a Chromecast.

No audio issues.

Chris 29-11-2020 17:19
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36060230)
Amazon want to have a word with Premier Sports. Currently enjoying HD quality Scottish football streamed from my Android phone to a Chromecast.

No audio issues.
The words quality, Scottish and football ought never to appear in the same sentence.

Mr K 29-11-2020 17:35
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36060271)
The words quality, Scottish and football ought never to appear in the same sentence.
Did Scotland qualifying for Euro 2020 pass you by ?? ;)

Anyway back on topic. Streaming live sport just doesn't work, its sometimes minutes behind.

jfman 29-11-2020 18:06
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36060271)
The words quality, Scottish and football ought never to appear in the same sentence.
The football itself was rotten. However I could see and hear how bad it was :D

RichardCoulter 29-11-2020 18:21
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Sky are currently offering Netflix for £2.50 a month.

cheekyangus 29-11-2020 19:09
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36060271)
The words quality, Scottish and football ought never to appear in the same sentence.
*Stir Stir* :D

I've never seen so much of my local team until after the first lockdown.

Sadly the streaming is 720p and then I have to Screen Mirror the website set to full screen from the browser. Given they provide for almost every full-time Scottish club I'm still amazed there's no app, one of the non-league teams we played in the cup recently had a provider with an app!

Mad Max 29-11-2020 19:26
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36060271)
The words quality, Scottish and football ought never to appear in the same sentence.
A wee bit harsh considering the national side has qualified for next years Euro's, also Rangers doing pretty well in the Europa cup.

Chris 29-11-2020 20:00
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36060283)
A wee bit harsh considering the national side has qualified for next years Euro's, also Rangers doing pretty well in the Europa cup.
Indeed they did, but what’s remarkable is that simply qualifying for the regional international tournament is considered a cause for national celebration. One World Cup in the last 30 years and 2 Euros (ever) isn’t brilliant.

And as for club football ... well as I’m a native of north west England and a Liverpool fan my bar for ‘doing pretty well’ is rather high :D

DECKAS 30-11-2020 09:08
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I could not agree more

1andrew1 30-11-2020 13:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36060286)
Indeed they did, but what’s remarkable is that simply qualifying for the regional international tournament is considered a cause for national celebration. One World Cup in the last 30 years and 2 Euros (ever) isn’t brilliant.

And as for club football ... well as I’m a native of north west England and a Liverpool fan my bar for ‘doing pretty well’ is rather high :D
Off topic but maybe letting Scottish teams into the English Premier League could win enough votes in Glasgow to ensure no majority for independence? ;)

Meanwhile, 5G Broadcast is the future of television, according to ORS, the technical services subsidiary of Austrian public broadcaster ORF.
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...lenges-remain/

Raider999 30-11-2020 17:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36060348)
Off topic but maybe letting Scottish teams into the English Premier League could win enough votes in Glasgow to ensure no majority for independence? ;)

Meanwhile, 5G Broadcast is the future of television, according to ORS, the technical services subsidiary of Austrian public broadcaster ORF.
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...lenges-remain/
Waste of time - only Rangers and Celtic would have any chance in the EPL.

More likely, they might have to start in the Championship - a very competitive league - where I'm not sure they would be promoted first time around.

As for Scotland, yes they qualified for the coming Euros (as I believe did over half the entrants) but only after a play-off.

There is one thing for sure Scots are very optimistic when it comes to their sports.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36060348)
Off topic but maybe letting Scottish teams into the English Premier League could win enough votes in Glasgow to ensure no majority for independence? ;)

Meanwhile, 5G Broadcast is the future of television, according to ORS, the technical services subsidiary of Austrian public broadcaster ORF.
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2020...lenges-remain/
When are we likely to get 5G coverage across the UK, currently not even available outside of a few large cities?

Even the roll-out of super-fast BB across the whole of the country seems to have been delayed/watered down.

1701-e 30-11-2020 20:11
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36060283)
.....also Rangers doing pretty well in the Europa cup.
Not bad for a.team that's only been around for less than ten years ;)

Mad Max 30-11-2020 20:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36060382)
Not bad for a.team that's only been around for less than ten years ;)
Not according to the football authorities, here, and in Europe.;)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36060278)
Sky are currently offering Netflix for £2.50 a month.

That's a good deal, do you need to have a certain package?

Legendkiller2k 30-11-2020 22:32
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Not according to the football authorities, here, and in Europe.;)

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That's a good deal, do you need to have a certain package?
They aren't mate it's £5p/m you need signature to get it then which Netflix tier you get depends on your package so just signature + ultimate tv (Netflix) you'd get sd 1 screen Netflix, if you have SKYHD pack you get HD Netflix, and SKY UHD you get the UHD Netflix.

Mad Max 30-11-2020 22:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36060407)
They aren't mate it's £5p/m you need signature to get it then which Netflix tier you get depends on your package so just signature + ultimate tv (Netflix) you'd get sd 1 screen Netflix, if you have SKYHD pack you get HD Netflix, and SKY UHD you get the UHD Netflix.

Thanks for the info mate, I'll have a look at that.:)

Legendkiller2k 30-11-2020 22:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36060408)
Thanks for the info mate, I'll have a look at that.:)
Be quick mate as the offers end in around a hour they're black friday offers, my current pack is signature + cinema + hd + sports for £42p/m

Mad Max 30-11-2020 23:33
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36060415)
Be quick mate as the offers end in around a hour they're black friday offers, my current pack is signature + cinema + hd + sports for £42p/m
Ok, cheers.:)

cheekyangus 02-12-2020 19:02
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
​Thanks to a516digital on Twitter for the heads up about the newest Discovery+ Press Release here​.

https://corporate.discovery.com/disc...anuary-4-2021/

The interesting piece of information for me is that Eurosport Player is basically going to disappear and Eurosport streaming content added to Discovery+.

Phunkenstein 02-12-2020 19:15
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
https://variety.com/2020/film/global...ma-1234843973/

New report suggesting Sky and Warner Bros are working on a deal to bring Wonder Woman 1984 to streaming in some form in January - the report states 'premium video on demand' but not clear whether it's via transactional VOD or an SVOD launch much like HBO Max.

1andrew1 03-12-2020 21:14
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Also interesting to note the fairly low take-up of HBO Max. It's quite pricey at $14.99 though.

Quote:
Warner Bros to launch its 2021 movies simultaneously on HBO Max and in cinemas

The studio’s upcoming 17 releases, including The Matrix 4 and Dune, will premiere in the US for subscribers at no extra charge...

It’s been described as “a temporary plan” but will be a much-needed boost for HBO Max which launched earlier this year and has been struggling to attract subscribers ever since. Fewer than 9 million people have signed up while about 28 million existing HBO users haven’t activated their accounts, which come free with current plans.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/202...bo-max-cinemas

Phunkenstein 03-12-2020 21:17
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36060849)
This is a pretty seismic statement of intent - and maybe the genie being let out of the bottle moment... I really do not see how this can play out and then go back to business as usual in 2022... I could have understood them pursuing that model with a few of the titles but all of them? Wow.

1andrew1 03-12-2020 22:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36060851)
This is a pretty seismic statement of intent - and maybe the genie being let out of the bottle moment... I really do not see how this can play out and then go back to business as usual in 2022... I could have understood them pursuing that model with a few of the titles but all of them? Wow.
It will be interesting to see what they do in the UK as lot of new Warner Media content is on Sky Atlantic. I can't imagine Warner would want their films exclusively on Sky channels as increased subscriptions resulting from showing the films mostly benefits Sky and less Warner Media.

I could see Warner making their films available PPV to the usual providers - Amazon, Sky Box Office, Virgin Media Store, etc.

Phunkenstein 03-12-2020 22:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36060857)
It will be interesting to see what they do in the UK as lot of new Warner Media content is on Sky Atlantic. I can't imagine Warner would want their films exclusively on Sky Atlantic as VM customers can't access the service and more importantly, increased subscriptions resulting from showing the films mostly benefits Sky and less Warner Media.
I could see Warner making their films available PPV to the usual providers - Amazon, Sky Box Office, Virgin Media Store, etc.
As it stands, it's business as usual in global markets - so these films will release theatrically and go to Sky Cinema after 8 months or so as per the current output deal - remember this is a US strategy only.

Now if the WW84 speculation pans out and it gets an early window via PVOD or SVOD after a month, that could give us an idea of what a UK strategy could look like if there is one required but until then it seems like we get the likes of Godzilla Vs Kong in cinemas as normal.

pip08456 03-12-2020 22:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36060858)
As it stands, it's business as usual in global markets - so these films will release theatrically and go to Sky Cinema after 8 months or so as per the current output deal - remember this is a US strategy only.

Now if the WW84 speculation pans out and it gets an early window via PVOD or SVOD after a month, that could give us an idea of what a UK strategy could look like if there is one required but until then it seems like we get the likes of Godzilla Vs Kong in cinemas as normal.
WW64 has its UK theatrical release 16th Dec, the fact many cinemas will be closed does not seem to have altered it. Warner Bros confirmed the release yeterday on twitter.

Phunkenstein 03-12-2020 22:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36060860)
WW64 has its UK theatrical release 16th Dec, the fact many cinemas will be closed does not seem to have altered it. Warner Bros confirmed the release yeterday on twitter.
The release date of December 16th hasn't changed - as mentioned in the Variety link above, reports are that WB and Sky are talking about a VOD release a month after that.

vincerooney 04-12-2020 01:01
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
I have to say one of the greatest streaming services out there is pluto tv. Some absolute TACK and rubbish quality tv on there

Legendkiller2k 04-12-2020 01:48
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36060849)
Also interesting to note the fairly low take-up of HBO Max. It's quite pricey at $14.99 though.


https://www.theguardian.com/film/202...bo-max-cinemas
Deal done with SKY for UK expect an announcement very soon.

vincerooney 04-12-2020 01:59
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36060877)
Deal done with SKY for UK expect an announcement very soon.
sky atlantic saves itself as an exclusive sky channel (after being urged to make it available to more people by advertisers) at the last minute by filling itself with hbo max stuff?

Phunkenstein 04-12-2020 07:01
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36060877)
Deal done with SKY for UK expect an announcement very soon.
For what exactly? (If you can say...) WW84 getting an early streaming release? Or the whole 2021 movie slate? Or for HBO Max original programming?

Legendkiller2k 04-12-2020 12:10
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36060881)
For what exactly? (If you can say...) WW84 getting an early streaming release? Or the whole 2021 movie slate? Or for HBO Max original programming?
Sounds like all content .
£19.99 is the estimated price.

You watch now just to mput egg on my face i've prob mis-read the document and it'll be SKY Cinema airing WW84 next year, lol that'll just be my luck lol but here is a snippet of document.

"Agreement reached betweet BSKYB and Warner Brothers on December 2ND 2020 for WB content to be on SKY Box Office. Proposed cost is £19.99gbp own prices can be set under term 36"
Term 36 is way above my level.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36060878)
sky atlantic saves itself as an exclusive sky channel (after being urged to make it available to more people by advertisers) at the last minute by filling itself with hbo max stuff?
You're not missing much with SKY Atlantic at the moment honestly imo the only decent show on it in past year was Gangs of London that's only my opinion though others will ofcourse find much more content on it worth watching.

Phunkenstein 04-12-2020 12:43
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36060922)
Sounds like all content .
£19.99 is the estimated price.

You watch now just to mput egg on my face i've prob mis-read the document and it'll be SKY Cinema airing WW84 next year, lol that'll just be my luck lol but here is a snippet of document.

"Agreement reached betweet BSKYB and Warner Brothers on December 2ND 2020 for WB content to be on SKY Box Office. Proposed cost is £19.99gbp own prices can be set under term 36"
Term 36 is way above my level.

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You're not missing much with SKY Atlantic at the moment honestly imo the only decent show on it in past year was Gangs of London that's only my opinion though others will ofcourse find much more content on it worth watching.
Definitely reads more like PVOD than something in the subscription space. I’m sure all will be revealed soon!

johnasimmons 04-12-2020 12:49
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
HBO MAX is a subscription channel in Sweden

Phunkenstein 04-12-2020 12:56
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 36060927)
HBO MAX is a subscription channel in Sweden
The service is actually called HBO Nordic

https://en.hbonordic.com/

They also have a TNT branded channel there - https://www.tnt-tv.se/

Based on what has been said by Warnermedia as recently as yesterday by HBO Max’s head of global, it will be most likely rebranded to HBO Max in 2021.

Legendkiller2k 04-12-2020 13:20
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36060925)
Definitely reads more like PVOD than something in the subscription space. I’m sure all will be revealed soon!
We have one more week left before we break up at work so hopefully more info comes in before then, only did half day today as only thing we had today was what everyone already knows about sd SKY nature coming to vm.

johnasimmons 04-12-2020 13:32
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36060929)
The service is actually called HBO Nordic

https://en.hbonordic.com/

They also have a TNT branded channel there - https://www.tnt-tv.se/

Based on what has been said by Warnermedia as recently as yesterday by HBO Max’s head of global, it will be most likely rebranded to HBO Max in 2021.
My mistake, it's called HBO Nordic

Raider999 04-12-2020 20:11
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36060922)
Sounds like all content .
£19.99 is the estimated price.

You watch now just to mput egg on my face i've prob mis-read the document and it'll be SKY Cinema airing WW84 next year, lol that'll just be my luck lol but here is a snippet of document.

"Agreement reached betweet BSKYB and Warner Brothers on December 2ND 2020 for WB content to be on SKY Box Office. Proposed cost is £19.99gbp own prices can be set under term 36"
Term 36 is way above my level.

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You're not missing much with SKY Atlantic at the moment honestly imo the only decent show on it in past year was Gangs of London that's only my opinion though others will ofcourse find much more content on it worth watching.

Thoroughly enjoyed 'The Undoing' missed it live apart from the last episode, so downloaded from catch-up.

First episode was a bit slow but after that it was good - glad we persevered.

As for paying £20pm for a streamer - forget it, absolutely no way!

spankysmagicpian 04-12-2020 20:30
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36060876)
I have to say one of the greatest streaming services out there is pluto tv. Some absolute TACK and rubbish quality tv on there
There's actually some good stuff on Pluto if you hunt for it


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