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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36060215)

1st doses of Pfizer vaccine flown to US.

Hmm i await the results with great interest.

Looks like the delays in locking down the country in Spring and Autumn to led this appalling economic situation. We look to be doing well on the vaccination front though so maybe we can come out of the situation earlier than our peers?

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UK’s high Covid spending delivered worse outcomes than peers

Britain languishing near bottom of G7 tables both for economic performance and deaths caused by the virus

On Wednesday, the independent Office for Budget Responsibility said the UK’s economy was set to shrink by 11.3 per cent in 2020, while the government would need to borrow £394bn to fund a shortfall in taxes and £280bn in public spending to fight Covid-19.

Compared with the average of other G7 leading economies, the cost to the UK government is set to be over 80 per cent more, while the UK is also on course to suffer a 90 per cent deeper decline in economic output in 2020 and almost 60 per cent more deaths....

Nor did the heavy UK spending noticeably save lives during the pandemic, with the cumulative death total per 100,000 people from coronavirus at the bottom of the international league table. Only Italy recorded a worse performance on the wider measure of excess deaths.

Reviewing the data, Jonathan Portes, professor of economics and public policy at King’s College, London, said: “The errors came in locking down too late in March, allowing the virus to spread in care homes, and then delaying a second set of national restrictions well after most scientists and economists realised it was inevitable.”

Prof Portes added that there was also strong evidence of “wasteful and potentially corrupt procurement practices”, which was likely to “erode public and business confidence in the government’s strategy, making economic recovery harder”.

https://www.ft.com/content/1f52fd2b-...b-acc38f819b8d

The Nightingale setups are in limited(seven) locations, so what about people who don't live near one? Plus we have the annual winter surge in demand yet to come.

Nobody to staff them, apparently 1/3 of NHS on sick or self isolating :dozey:

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36060225)

Nobody to staff them, apparently 1/3 of NHS on sick or self isolating :dozey:

NHS staff = 1.4 million

NHS staff self-isolating = 30,000

30k as percentage/fraction of 1.4 million = 2.14%, or about 1/50th of NHS staff.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/n...ve-b50461.html

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36060224)

The Nightingale setups are in limited(seven) locations, so what about people who don't live near one? Plus we have the annual winter surge in demand yet to come.

You may have missed the point...

*point - not enough trained staff

Doesn't the military have the required trained resources? Or at least a reasonable number?

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36060233)

Doesn't the military have the required trained resources? Or at least a reasonable number?

This is a couple of years old, but problems roughly the same numbers

http://www.armedforces.co.uk/army/listings/l0077.html

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Defence Nursing Staff

On operations, nursing staff and medical officers from all three services deliver primary and emergency care at the front line and secondary and critical care in field hospitals. Aeromed evacuation of casualties is supported by defence nurses who deliver intensive care nursing during patient transfers both in theatre and on return to the UK working within the Critical Care Air Support Teams.

When not deployed on operations, defence nurses work within Ministry of Defence Hospital Units within NHS Trusts across the UK to maintain their clinical skills and care for the general public. In particular, Defence Nurses working at the Royal Centre for Defence Medicine in Birmingham and at the Defence Medical Rehabilitation Centre at Headley Court contribute directly to the health care provision of military personnel.

Nursing staff for the three services (with approximate personnel figures) are found from the following organisations:

Queen Alexandra's Royal Naval Nursing Service (QARNNS) - 300
Queen Alexandra's Royal Army Nursing Corps (QARANC) - 800
Princess Mary's Royal Air Force Nursing Service (PMRAFNS) - 430

Around 1,500 nurses, most of whom are already doing other stuff...

During the Cold War, the Forces had quite a few of their own hospitals (both of my children from my first marriage were born at RAF Nocton Hall in Lincolnshire) - most of those no longer exist.

Could be worse - we could be in the USA...

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1606661589

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36060237)

This is a couple of years old, but problems roughly the same numbers

http://www.armedforces.co.uk/army/listings/l0077.html

Around 1,500 nurses, most of whom are already doing other stuff...

During the Cold War, the Forces had quite a few of their own hospitals (both of my children from my first marriage were born at RAF Norton Hall in Lincolnshire) - most of those no longer exist.

We had a Royal Naval hospital down here in our city but that got closed just after the Cold War.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36060228)

NHS staff = 1.4 million

Aren't 60% of those pen pushers?

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36060242)

Aren't 60% of those pen pushers?

l suspect all staff are important to the NHS as without them the NHS would not be able to function...

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36060243)

l suspect all staff are important to the NHS as without them the NHS would not be able to function...

. . . or it might function a lot better ;)

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36060245)

. . . or it might function a lot better ;)

Have you any substantiation of that claim Carth?.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36060247)

Have you any substantiation of that claim Carth?.

christ, don't you start that game too Den