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1andrew1 04-05-2017 19:11

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35897529)
Why would Sky even bother with the development time to bring an app to VM TiVo when most of its channels can already be received through VM anyway and the Now TV box is available for peanuts for anyone to purchase.

Do you really think VM would want to add an app what promotes a direct relationship for it's customer with Sky ?

At this stage it's complete fantasy land in my opinion.

Totally agree with you.

denphone 04-05-2017 19:16

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35897529)
Why would Sky even bother with the development time to bring an app to VM TiVo when most of its channels can already be received through VM anyway and the Now TV box is available for peanuts for anyone to purchase.

Do you really think VM would want to add an app what promotes a direct relationship for it's customer with Sky ?

At this stage it's complete fantasy land in my opinion.

Yep l cannot see it happening MM but OB is legendary for his refusal to see anything otherwise and tends to stick to his guns like a stubborn Alabama tick.;):D

buckeye 04-05-2017 19:28

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In the coming months Sky are going to be able to offer their channels directly to VM and every other ISP's customers when their Sky Q service will be delivered via the internet.

Personally I don't think it will be for me as I'm guessing you will have to have a Sky Q box and they will keep to the antiquated business model of forcing people to buy bundles of channels, but interesting times are ahead in the near future.

muppetman11 04-05-2017 19:38

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Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35897537)
In the coming months Sky are going to be able to offer their channels directly to VM and every other ISP's customers when their Sky Q service will be delivered via the internet.

At the moment nothing is known on this product , making the product open to customers with any ISP doesn't ensure QOS and leaves Sky open to complaints when in fact the problem could lie with the customers ISP.

ozsat 04-05-2017 19:45

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Well currently BT still can not provide their own full service to many of their own customers.

Inactive Digital 04-05-2017 20:43

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35897537)
In the coming months Sky are going to be able to offer their channels directly to VM and every other ISP's customers when their Sky Q service will be delivered via the internet.

They already offer their channels directly to Virgin and every other ISPs' customers by providing satellite dishes though. I don't think it'll be a major driver of growth, rather fill in a few gaps - unless they plan to use the service to increase the number of UHD channels, rather than renting more spectrum on Astra.

passingbat 04-05-2017 22:40

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35897521)

Thanks MM.


So 2 out of 18 devices.

OLD BOY 05-05-2017 10:33

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35897531)
Yep l cannot see it happening MM but OB is legendary for his refusal to see anything otherwise and tends to stick to his guns like a stubborn Alabama tick.;):D

I didn't say it would happen, Den, just pointing out that it is an option. I would like to see the VM boxes become comprehensive streaming boxes offering a full range of services, but I dare say I'm just spitting in the wind.

From what I have read, it is more likely that VM will be able to add the channel to its Full House package before much longer. This will probably be once Game of Thrones is finished and will most likely appear when the Sky contracts come up for renewal.

buckeye 05-05-2017 17:19

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Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 35897554)
They already offer their channels directly to Virgin and every other ISPs' customers by providing satellite dishes though. I don't think it'll be a major driver of growth, rather fill in a few gaps - unless they plan to use the service to increase the number of UHD channels, rather than renting more spectrum on Astra.

I cannot have Sky where I live any many properties around here can't.
I live in a nice block and many properties around here are the same as mine, but the management companies simply refuse to allow satellite dishes to be erected (I assume as everywhere here is fully cabled up they all have agreements with VM to not allow dishes for a certain number of years).

Areas like this can't be unique and the cynical side of me thinks Sky may want to take advantage of other company's superior BB networks to further their reach.

As I said I can't see it being a product for me unless I can choose the channels I wish to pay for and am not lumbered with one piece of propriety hardware, but when an area like this now has a minimum 100 mbps internet connection via VM which is superior to anything Sky (or any other ISP) can offer it will be interesting to see if they tempt customers directly to Sky Q for TV but who choose to keep VM for Broadband.
That sort of customer must be almost pure profit for Sky rather than accepting a percentage of the Virgin TV sub Sky are currently getting.

DaMac 06-05-2017 06:30

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Sky will have to strike deals with Broadband providers if they want their internet TV service available across platforms, VM already throttle Netflix, Amazon and the like, anyone with 4K Netflix and Amazon will tell you there are certain times you can not achieve 4K streaming even with 200mb BB.

ozsat 06-05-2017 06:48

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Not sometime I ever saw when I was on 200mb
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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35897742)
Sky will have to strike deals with Broadband providers if they want their internet TV service available across platforms, VM already throttle Netflix, Amazon and the like, anyone with 4K Netflix and Amazon will tell you there are certain times you can not achieve 4K streaming even with 200mb BB.


Ddonald2016 06-05-2017 10:04

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Maybe this should be renamed what's happening at virgin media because apart from price rises,odd channel add on, sky renaming a movie channel, a waste of time called TV anywhere ( can't use on 3G or 4g) where It only works on home wifi and downloading content is way way to slow and embarrassing for virgin media, virgin store not here yet as promised, waken up virgin media it's so embarrassing

1andrew1 06-05-2017 14:35

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35897742)
Sky will have to strike deals with Broadband providers if they want their internet TV service available across platforms, VM already throttle Netflix, Amazon and the like, anyone with 4K Netflix and Amazon will tell you there are certain times you can not achieve 4K streaming even with 200mb BB.

I think I read that they will require you to take their own top-tier fibre broadband.

Gavin-D 06-05-2017 16:05

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Sky cinema Matt Damon launches on Monday

passingbat 06-05-2017 16:06

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35897693)
I live in a nice block and many properties around here are the same as mine, but the management companies simply refuse to allow satellite dishes to be erected (I assume as everywhere here is fully cabled up they all have agreements with VM to not allow dishes for a certain number of years).

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I doubt that is the case, but you never know. My block of flats was cabled up many years go, but there is absolutely no restriction on Sky being installed. However it should be installed as a communal dish feeding the flats, and the install company will require a minimum number of flats to sign up for it before installing.


I understand that local bylaws prevent multiple dishes being installed in blocks of flats, hence the communal dish requirement. Around here, people ignore those bylaws and install an individual dish if they want Sky.


I'm not sure how your flats work, but here, we employ the management company to handle routine maintenance etc. so they have no right to prevent us going down the communal dish path if we wanted to.


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