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Nothing strange about it. Despite the relaxed gun laws over in the US, I strongly doubt 63 Million people had a gun to their head by the hands of a Russian, forcing them to vote for Trump.

I think people are forgetting Crooked Hillary's audio recording from 10 years ago of her suggesting the US should have done 'something' to rig the Palestine Elections in 2006....

Let me jog your memories....

The US wanting to influence foreign Elections, surely not...

Second little chestnut....

The current interfering President, known as Barack Obama, coming over here prior to our own June 23rd referendum and blackmailing us, in to voting Remain, or else we be back at the trading queue. I call this interfering in a foreign referendum/Election, it should never have been allowed.

So while you got some in the US saying the Russians influenced the outcome of the Election...Pot, Kettle, black springs to mind, oh and that word beginning with H for

Hypocrisy !!!

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That's quite different from if the US hacked one of our parties.

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Well Russia selectively revealed the truth didn't they? No RNC e-mails got released (although the FBI do believe they were hacked).

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If they were truly being selective then they wouldn't have even bothered trying to get the Republican e-mails.

This all assumes that revealing it had any real effect on the Democrat votes.

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Well they might prove useful now they're in the White House wouldn't it?

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The anti-elite mission is going well:

Trump's Cabinet picks have more wealth than third of American households combined

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That's a good thing, means they cannot be bought.

Next weak leftie argument please ? :dozey:

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i understand mike pence is changing his name to mike Billionbucks so he fits in .

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Take your "I love Trump" glasses off for a moment. He is just swapping one elite for another :dunce:

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I don't have those glasses sorry, nor do I love Trump so keep your dunce hat to yourself. I am however, glad she, the crooked one, did not win and that's the difference.

I like how you completely ignored the point about Hillary trying to suggest they should have rigged the Palestine Elections back in 2006, so they could determine who was going to win, why is this any different to the so called accusations of foreign nations trying to influence the 2016 US Elections ?

(Clue: it is no different.)

Did 63 Million Americans get held up a gun point when they were casting their vote for Trump back on November 8th ? Majority of these Americans had made up their mind up, even IF there was an attempt by the Russians or any other foreign entity to influence the Election, which I just don't buy that there was.

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No it isn't too different. I expect America to push for what is in their interests just as I am not surprised Russia are pushing for theirs. My objection is that I consider America and the West in general as the force I would want to be successful. So I think we should be dismayed and push back against Russian involvement and am against people defending Russia or, as is the case in parts of Europe, political parties seeking their help.

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Western Countries are all Saints and they do not hack anyone. Laugh.

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Yes, and we ALL believe everything they say don't we? :dozey:

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I believe them over the Kremlin

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Like when they had elections to ensure democracy and Hamas won. All of a sudden we weren't prepared to accept the winner.

Our governments are true hypocrites "let's have an election and if we like the winner it's democracy in action, if not let's have another one"

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There is little doubt that both Russia and China are involved in very dubious internet shenanigans but so are we in the west we are not angels and to suggest that because the west is the lesser of two evils doesn't make our activities any less acceptable then Russia and China's. Any outside involvement in trying to influence the US presidential election is a serious escalation of those activities and Russia had a lot more to gain by a trump victory then a clinton one. Personally i also believe a trump victory was preferable to a clinton one but that victory has to be legitimate and pass any and all scrutiny so any chance that Russia played a part must be investigated to a complete conclusion.