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Osem 03-02-2016 09:59
Re: Unstoppable migration?
 
How Israel welcomes refugees:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35475403

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Meanwhile, there are about 45,000 Eritreans and Sudanese in Israel. The government won't deport them - that would be a clear breach of the UN Refugee Convention, which it signed in 1954. Under the Convention, no-one can be forcibly returned to a country where they have a justified fear of persecution.

But if Israel treats them as refugees at least in this respect, why does it then refuse them asylum?

Foreign Ministry spokesperson Emmanuel Nahshon says the migrants threaten the security, and the identity, of the Jewish state.

"It's obvious that we live here in a situation which is rather complex and complicated. And if you add this element of migrants who come here and who want to stay here - undoubtedly because this is a rich and prosperous country - then it could become also a challenge to our identity here in Israel.

"It's not only about the 45,000 or 50,000 people that already are here in Israel, it's about the potential. Because those people tell their friends and families back home - 'Look, this is a very nice place. Do come over.'"

heero_yuy 04-02-2016 10:33
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THE gang of migrants who attacked two pensioners on a Munich subway are Afghans who were denied asylum four years ago, it has emerged.

The men — aged 19, 20 and 23 — cannot be deported back to their homeland because it is deemed too dangerous.

They may only be fined €200 for the appalling attack, which saw one elderly man been roughly seized by the arms and pinned against a wall, while another was grabbed by the neck.

A Munich police spokesman told MailOnline that it was a "big problem" so many migrants are able to stay in Germany despite their asylum requests being rejected.

Sven Muller said: "They have come here and their asylum requests have been rejected, but we aren’t able to send them home because there are no flights.
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Mr Muller estimated that there are a "few hundred thousand" people living in the country under a status known as Duldung, or "tolerated stay".

He added: "They aren’t here illegally, but it’s a legal position of its own. It’s for people who have sought asylum and been rejected but it’s not possible to send them back home.

"It means they can stay in Germany until it’s possible to send them back.
Linky

Looks like a shedload of trouble brewing up.

Osem 04-02-2016 12:37
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Yep and further gives the lie to all that guff about deporting these people. They can't get rid of the illegals they already have let alone the thousands of new ones they're acquiring on a daily basis. They haven't the will or the mechanisms to do it and the longer they spin it out, the less likely any deportations will be. It's all just so much hot air to placate the increasingly angry masses. Honestly you listen to some of our politicians, commentators etc. and have to wonder about their sanity. They talk as if people are going to come here for a couple of years, see their children make friends, go to school etc. and then just quietly queue up to go home when we've decided it's safe. It's really not hard for anyone but the naďve or deluded to imagine the numerous legal actions/appeals plus the considerable anger and resentment which will inevitably ensue when people who've been here for several years are told they're going home to a pile or ruins? It's never going to happen.

Taf 04-02-2016 13:03
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The old trick of claiming to be homosexual is being used when asylum is claimed or rejected. They can't be sent back to muslim countries then.

(Tongue in cheek) Surely there must be a deserted island somewhere they could be sent?

heero_yuy 04-02-2016 13:26
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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35820393)
The old trick of claiming to be homosexual is being used when asylum is claimed or rejected. They can't be sent back to muslim countries then.
Make them prove it! Pop them off to some of the seedier places in Brighton at night. :D

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(Tongue in cheek) Surely there must be a deserted island somewhere they could be sent?
Here maybe? Equally tongue in cheek. :D

Osem 04-02-2016 15:23
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Is it any wonder that desperate people (whether genuine refugees, economic migrants or worse) would claim virtually anything in order to avoid being sent back? Whether the basis of an asylum claim is age, sexuality, religion, 'persecution' or whatever, it's easy to make stuff up but much harder to disprove it. The days when migrants weren't aware of how to play the system are long gone.

Arthurgray50@blu 04-02-2016 19:38
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I am a great believer in saying that, the UK is a free for all. But, the UK must draw a line on what we can, or cannot do, in this matter.

At the moment we are allowing migrants to come to the UK, either in the back of a lorry, or coming through normal channels.

Several years ago, we were informed by the Government that they don't even know, how many have come into the country and disappeared without trace.

But now the government have told us, that they are prepared to send OUR money to families overseas in benefit money.

So its ok for the government to do that, whereas they are deducting benefit money to the own people. And making the poor even poorer.

Cameron and Co, should take care of the own people first, and stop migrants coming in to this country, until its done 100% properly

As at the moment, its a total farce:(

Russ 06-02-2016 04:58
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35820508)
At the moment we are allowing migrants to come to the UK, either in the back of a lorry, or coming through normal channel(
No we're not Arthur, this is why we have sniffer dogs, Co2 detectors, heat sensors etc at border ports.

Interesting article by the way...

http://www.theguardian.com/global-de...ants-migration

Ramrod 06-02-2016 13:57
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10-Year-Old Boy Brutally Raped By Iraqi Migrant at Pool in Vienna
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During his interrogation the man attempted to excuse himself, saying that it had been a “sexual emergency.”

He explained that he had to satisfy himself with the lad as he had not had sex in four months, explaining “I couldn’t stand not having sex as I have excess sexual energy.” He added that it had been “a huge mistake” and that he had known it would “scar the boy”.

techguyone 06-02-2016 14:12
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-euro...rnsey-35511771

Guernsey sounds promising :)

Does anyone else hate the term 'islamphobia', why do you never hear about 'christianphobia' 'budhisaphobia' or 'hinduisaphobia'

Made up term by leftie luvvies to frighten people.

Osem 06-02-2016 14:23
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35820788)
Shocking! :mad:

Who could have foreseen anything like this happening when Merkel opened the floodgates? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35820796)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-euro...rnsey-35511771

Guernsey sounds promising :)

Does anyone else hate the term 'islamphobia', why do you never hear about 'christianphobia' 'budhisaphobia' or 'hinduisaphobia'

Made up term by leftie luvvies to frighten people.
They just love branding anyone who disagrees with them. It's all they have left when they've lost the argument.

nomadking 06-02-2016 15:21
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There may be those that go on about "Islamophobia", but what is there really to like about Islam in the first place?

Taf 06-02-2016 15:21
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I am starting to develop a fear of islam, or at least the nasty parts of it. So I am becoming islamophobic.

deadite66 06-02-2016 15:46
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Big problem the west have the is regressive left that have turned a blind eye to the islamists even as far as allowing children to be raped to not bring unwanted attention to islam.

if anyone is interested Dave Rubin interviewed Tommy Robinson, enlightening watch. Youtube

Damien 06-02-2016 16:55
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The solution to the problem will have to be in Syria: http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...n-supply-lines

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Up to 70,000 people have fled towards the border with Turkey, where they are cramming into already overcrowded refugee camps, hoping that Ankara will open crossings. The governor of one of the country’s most affected provinces, Kilis, said more that 35,000 had arrived in the past 48 hours.
We are witnessing the mass evacuation of an entire country.


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