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Russ 16-05-2025 21:03

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I’ll believe it when I see it but an unsurprising u-turn is likely on the cards….

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/po...6n3j5QAZijfBg#

nomadking 16-05-2025 21:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36196687)
I’ll believe it when I see it but an unsurprising u-turn is likely on the cards….

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/po...6n3j5QAZijfBg#

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However, it is reported that Labour are now considering increasing the £11,500 income threshold over which pensioners are no longer eligible for the allowance, in order to bring more people into the benefit’s net.
Sounds like they are thinking of raising the Pension Credit income threshold to at or above the State Pension. It would still be means-tested, but would bring additional financial help to more people.
Link
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If you get Pension Credit you can also get other help, such as:
Housing Benefit if you rent the property you live in
Winter Fuel Payment
Support for Mortgage Interest if you own the property you live in
a Council Tax discount
a free TV licence if you’re aged 75 or over
help with NHS dental treatment, glasses and transport costs for hospital appointments, if you get a certain type of Pension Credit
help with your heating costs through the Warm Home Discount Scheme
a discount on the Royal Mail redirection service if you’re moving house

Paul 16-05-2025 22:02

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So not a U Turn as such, but changing the rules, to have a similar effect, and probably cost them more than they saved .....

papa smurf 16-05-2025 22:07

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A few crumbs from the top table isn't going to save him

Damien 16-05-2025 22:22

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It's a U-Turn just structured in a way they can claim it isn't. Complete stupidity on this policy. I've said it before, for this hassle, they might as well have abolished the link to earnings part of the triple lock.

nomadking 16-05-2025 23:35

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They're pursuing too many quick fixes without thinking them through. Too many Yes Men without having a "Tenth Man".
Link
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The Tenth Man Rule suggests that, if nine people in a group of ten agree on an issue, the tenth member must take a contrarian viewpoint and assume the other nine are wrong.

1andrew1 17-05-2025 00:56

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36196673)
You mean you don’t know, Andrew? You’re slipping, mate.

Possibly, Old Boy, possibly.

But what are your definitions of high levels of immigration? And acceptable levels?

Sephiroth 17-05-2025 10:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36196687)
I’ll believe it when I see it but an unsurprising u-turn is likely on the cards….

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/po...6n3j5QAZijfBg#

The link is about the winter fuel payment possible u-turn.

This is a purely political move (if it happens) and, if the government is to balance its fiscal books, the u-turn will need to be offset by a tax grab elsewhere. There's 'owt for nowt in this game.


papa smurf 17-05-2025 16:45

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Iranian men charged with spying offences in UK were asylum seekers who arrived by small boats and lorry

https://news.sky.com/story/three-ira...olice-13369333

where are the checks? spies coming here and claiming asylum, labour are pants at border control

Sephiroth 17-05-2025 17:03

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36196711)
Iranian men charged with spying offences in UK were asylum seekers who arrived by small boats and lorry

https://news.sky.com/story/three-ira...olice-13369333

where are the checks? spies coming here and claiming asylum, labour are pants at border control

This is just what I and just a few others here have had the nous to say: they are here already and our governments have seriously failed us. To my mind, this is a national emergency which requires special action - meaning the rapid removal to one of our remote possessions of all males of fighting age. Something like that.

Paul 17-05-2025 17:15

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36196711)
where are the checks?

What checks exactly ?

"Hello, are you a spy ?"
"No."
"Ok, carry on."

....

papa smurf 17-05-2025 17:17

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36196713)
What checks exactly ?

"Hello, are you a spy ?"
"No."
"Ok, carry on."

....

I doubt they even get that

Hugh 17-05-2025 17:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36196713)
What checks exactly ?

"Hello, are you a spy ?"
"No."
"Ok, carry on."

....


Perhaps they should use the one on the USA ESTA form… ;)

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Do you seek to engage in or have you ever engaged in terrorist activities, espionage, sabotage, or genocide?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36196711)
Iranian men charged with spying offences in UK were asylum seekers who arrived by small boats and lorry

https://news.sky.com/story/three-ira...olice-13369333

where are the checks? spies coming here and claiming asylum, labour are pants at border control

They arrived
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between 2016 and 2022. Mr Sepahvand arrived in 2016 concealed in a lorry.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c04eze3wv5go

thenry 17-05-2025 17:50

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What do they spy on with so much transparency out there :confused:

Hugh 17-05-2025 18:16

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36196717)
What do they spy on with so much transparency out there :confused:

From a previous link in this thread

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They are accused of targeting individual journalists working for Iran International, an independent media organisation based in London…

…Mr Sepahvand, of St John's Wood, London is also charged with engaging in surveillance, reconnaissance and open-source research with the intention of committing serious violence against a person in the UK.

Mr Manesh, of Kensal Rise, London and Mr Noori, of Ealing, London are also charged with engaging in surveillance and reconnaissance with the intention that serious violence against a person in the UK would be committed by others.


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