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1andrew1 05-03-2025 20:44
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36192357)
Quite hilarious that they are calling people commies after they've got in to bed with Russia. Oh the irony.
Exactly, absolute self-projection there.

Hugh 05-03-2025 23:09
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/jud...gs-2025-03-05/

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Exclusive: Judges face rise in threats as Musk blasts them over rulings

U.S. Marshals have warned federal judges of unusually high threat levels as tech billionaire Elon Musk and other Trump administration allies ramp up efforts to discredit judges who stand in the way of White House efforts to slash federal jobs and programs, said several judges with knowledge of the warnings.

In recent weeks, Musk, congressional Republicans and other top allies of U.S. President Donald Trump have called for the impeachment of some federal judges or attacked their integrity in response to court rulings that have slowed the Trump administration's moves to dismantle entire government agencies and fire tens of thousands of workers.

Musk, the world's richest person, has lambasted judges in more than 30 posts since the end of January on his social media site X, calling them “corrupt,” “radical,” “evil” and deriding the "TYRANNY of the JUDICIARY" after judges blocked parts of the federal downsizing that he’s led. The Tesla CEO has also reposted nearly two dozen tweets by others attacking judges.

Reuters interviews with 11 federal judges in multiple districts revealed mounting alarm over their physical security and, in some cases, a rise in violent threats in recent weeks. Most spoke on condition of anonymity and said they did not want to further inflame the situation or make comments that could be interpreted as conflicting with their duties of impartiality. The Marshals Service declined to comment on security matters.
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Trump and his White House press secretary also have criticized judges they describe as activists who have issued orders that slowed or blocked some of those efforts.

Asked about Musk's comments, White House spokesperson Harrison Fields said that Musk was speaking in his personal capacity and that the White House has taken no position on whether judges should be impeached. He said "threats against judges are unacceptable, and the president condemns such actions," and that appropriate law enforcement agencies that are tasked with surveilling such threats are doing so.

"The White House condemns any threats to really any public officials, despite our feelings that a lot of these people are leftist, crazy judges that aren't following the Constitution," Fields said. "Just because these people are leftist, crazy, unconstitutional people doesn't mean they deserve to be harmed. That's not how you engage with disputes in this country."

RichardCoulter 05-03-2025 23:33
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Let's hope that there aren't ever any more hurricanes in America:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/01/w...mp-impact.html

TheDaddy 06-03-2025 01:05
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36192355)
Lest we forget he is basically doing what said he would , and unlike the UK government, the majority of voters supported him. Like it or not :(
Hold on, I thought he said he'd bring the price of eggs down not crash their whole economy, that bozo inherited an economy that was literally the envy of the world and like every business he's ever been involved with he's fecked it, wonder how many of his supporters like that or not

Mick 06-03-2025 07:13
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36192368)
Hold on, I thought he said he'd bring the price of eggs down not crash their whole economy, that bozo inherited an economy that was literally the envy of the world and like every business he's ever been involved with he's fecked it, wonder how many of his supporters like that or not
The economy was shit under Biden. The cost of living was a major factor that got Trump re-elected. I wouldn’t be so disingenuous about the cost of items at this stage - every day grocery items won’t come down in the short few weeks he’s been in office.

These stupid “Putin has a hold on Trump” comments, many of you forget that Putin still has a hold on the corrupted EU, with them spending billions of pounds on their dependency on Russian fossil fuels, in fact the EU spent more on Russian imports of FF, than they did on financial aid to Ukraine in 2024. So let’s not be hypocrites, especially when the EU is essentially & directly helping fund Putin’s war machine. :rolleyes:

Chris 06-03-2025 07:36
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That’s whataboutery Mick. And in any case, political expediency, grubby thought it is, is not in the same category as outright treason. Not by a country mile.

Nobody can say for sure whether Trump really is Agent Krasnov, but it is hard to see how a Russian asset at the top of the US government would behave very differently than he has.

Hugh 06-03-2025 08:43
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From this week’s Private Eye

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1741250553

Chris 06-03-2025 09:17
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Does anyone here drive a Swasticar? :D

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1741252609

jfman 06-03-2025 09:23
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The EU should have at least had the decency to pay the Indians to refine their Russian fossil fuels before import. There’s certainly no comparison between who has let down the Ukrainians more between the Americans and the EU.

Hopefully with the UK and EU committing to more defence spending they realise the USA are an unreliable ally and spend that money on this side of the pond. You won’t want the intelligence and systems your weapons rely upon to dry up upon the whim of whoever is in the MAGA hotseat.

Mick 06-03-2025 10:15
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36192372)
That’s whataboutery Mick. And in any case, political expediency, grubby thought it is, is not in the same category as outright treason. Not by a country mile.

Nobody can say for sure whether Trump really is Agent Krasnov, but it is hard to see how a Russian asset at the top of the US government would behave very differently than he has.
Rubbish, its not whataboutery, it’s pure hypocrisy !

Putin has a hold on the EU because of its dependency on energy - they’re literally helping to fund his war, far far worse than the accusations of Trump’s alignment with Putin.

Chris 06-03-2025 10:20
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36192382)
Rubbish, its not whataboutery, it’s pure hypocrisy !

Putin has a hold on the EU because of its dependency on energy - they’re literally helping to fund his war, far far worse than the accusations of Trump’s alignment with Putin.
Er no, in a topic-based discussion forum it’s nothing of the sort. You are specifically addressing people who, in this thread, have discussed Donald Trump (who is the topic) as he relates to Putin, while not discussing the EU (which is not the topic) as it relates to Putin.

There’s no hypocrisy here. Just users engaging in a topic-based discussion, making observations about Donald Trump.

Hugh 06-03-2025 10:25
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Nicole Tersigni

‪@nicsigni.bsky.social‬


you’re fired. wait you’re rehired. email us a list of things you’ve done today wait forget it you’re fired again. come back your job was important. you’re fired. or hired. come in to the office. wait the office has no computers go home.

we are the department of government efficiency.
Not to mention "we're selling all the Government buildings that haven't got enough desks and computers for all the people we are firing/re-hiring/re-locating, oh wait a minute, now we aren't selling them", and "we're imposing tariffs, oh, no we're not, but we might again in a month, or not".

It's almost as if the end-game is to cause chaos and disruption, and then make money out of fixing the problems they caused (not to mention selling short in advance of tariff impositions/reversals/re-impositions).

Mick 06-03-2025 10:47
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36192380)
The EU should have at least had the decency to pay the Indians to refine their Russian fossil fuels before import. There’s certainly no comparison between who has let down the Ukrainians more between the Americans and the EU.

Hopefully with the UK and EU committing to more defence spending they realise the USA are an unreliable ally and spend that money on this side of the pond. You won’t want the intelligence and systems your weapons rely upon to dry up upon the whim of whoever is in the MAGA hotseat.
This is a joke, all the European spending on NATO Defence is absolutely dwarfed by what the U.S spends on theirs. There is no way on Earth Europe would win a war against Russia with China & Iran thrown in to the mix, without U.S back up, none of the remaining NATO members could ever afford or have the military capability that matches America.

Trump cannot unilaterally withdraw from NATO, he will need congressional approval. A bill was passed in 2020 to “President proof NATO withdrawal”. Previous presidents have walked away from other treaties without a congressional nod, but if Trump tries, it will obviously go through the courts & Supreme Court, only snag is that there is nothing in the written constitution, that requires Congressional approval for withdrawal from a treaty & SC always applies the test, is it constitutional?

But the real bug bearer for Trump is that his current Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, co-authored that 2020 Bill.

jfman 06-03-2025 10:56
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Nobody said at present that the US didn’t spend more than the UK/EU, other NATO members. I only said that with America being an unreliable ally it’s more important than ever for Europe to ensure that defence expenditure is on weapons and systems that can operate independently of American oversight/support.

Production capacity needs rapidly increased over here too (if the premise of increased defence spending is accepted).

The likelihood of anyone going to war with Russia, China and Iran all at once in Europe is extremely low. The ability to bog down one of them would be satisfactory, and the Biden administration gave us the blueprint in Ukraine by resourcing them just enough to stand still.

Mick 06-03-2025 11:32
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36192383)
Er no, in a topic-based discussion forum it’s nothing of the sort. You are specifically addressing people who, in this thread, have discussed Donald Trump (who is the topic) as he relates to Putin, while not discussing the EU (which is not the topic) as it relates to Putin.

There’s no hypocrisy here. Just users engaging in a topic-based discussion, making observations about Donald Trump.
Don’t patronise me Chris. Loads of other people have branched out their discussions in here, as Trump is the topic, the subject matter has a wide ranging area of dynamics for discussion. I am well aware how a forum works.

And I’m making the observation that there is hypocrisy in here & it stinks.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36192387)
Nobody said at present that the US didn’t spend more than the UK/EU, other NATO members. I only said that with America being an unreliable ally it’s more important than ever for Europe to ensure that defence expenditure is on weapons and systems that can operate independently of American oversight/support.

Production capacity needs rapidly increased over here too (if the premise of increased defence spending is accepted).

The likelihood of anyone going to war with Russia, China and Iran all at once in Europe is extremely low. The ability to bog down one of them would be satisfactory, and the Biden administration gave us the blueprint in Ukraine by resourcing them just enough to stand still.
Yes, but all this talk of “Can’t rely on U.S - Europe to go it alone” - I’d be saying fine, can’t rely on U.S but I also can’t rely on any of our European neighbours either, they’ve neglected their Defence spending for decades, because they’ve always seen America as the advantage, as we’ve seen, Trump the “transactional” president demands Europeans beef up their Defense spending.


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