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jfman 17-10-2022 18:21
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What that looks like in terms of seats. Libdems would become the opposition:-

LAB: 515 (+313)
LDM: 47 (+36)
SNP: 42 (-6)
CON: 22 (-343)
PLC: 4 (=)
GRN: 1 (=)

Labour Majority of 380.
Changes w/ GE2019.

https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/s...t-liz-truss%2F
There’s not a single policy or set of policies that can turn it round for her.

Chris 17-10-2022 18:27
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We were almost certainly heading for a recession and higher interest rates in any case.

What she’s done is she’s told us once the drawbridge gets pulled up 99% of us we will get poorer and public services will be decimated while they redraw the tax system to benefit the super wealthy. An atrocious look when you’re in a popularity contest.
You’re correct, what she’s done is incompetence on a scale that ought to be impossible at the hands of someone who has managed to attain such high office. That’s not what Den said though, which was basically a boilerplate objection to Tory government, that just doesn’t stand up to scrutiny in the present circumstances. A great many Tory parliamentarians (possibly a majority of them) wouldn’t have made the moves she has. Most of them didn’t even want her to get the job.

1andrew1 17-10-2022 18:27
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There’s not a single policy or set of policies that can turn it round for her.
The fact that no one on this forum is defending her anymore tells us all we need to know.

denphone 17-10-2022 18:28
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There’s not a single policy or set of policies that can turn it round for her.
In a interview with GB News polling expert John Curtice said that historical precedent means the Conservative party cannot win the next election, and that the challenge facing the government was the combination of both Black Wednesday and the 1976 crisis when the Labour government was forced to seek an IMF bailout.

Chris 17-10-2022 18:30
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In a interview with GB News polling expert John Curtice said that historical precedent means the Conservative party cannot win the next election, and that the challenge facing the government was the combination of both Black Wednesday and the 1976 crisis when the Labour government was forced to seek an IMF bailout.
The nearest modern polling equivalent is the Tory wipeout of 1997. Then, however, Blair and Brown inherited a good and improving economy. If and when Labour enter office, even if that’s not til 2024 and things have turned a corner, they aren’t going to benefit from anything like as rosy.

Mr K 17-10-2022 18:33
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The fact that no one on this forum is defending her anymore tells us all we need to know.
Give OB a chance ! Like Lizzie he's probably been detained elsewhere today... ;)

papa smurf 17-10-2022 18:57
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Liz Truss held crunch talks with Graham Brady before appearing stony-faced in front of MPs

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ory-MPs-latest

mrmistoffelees 17-10-2022 19:11
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Liz Truss held crunch talks with Graham Brady before appearing stony-faced in front of MPs

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ory-MPs-latest
Not sure what the express is smoking but She was smirking and laughing with I think Simon Clarke when she turned up

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Seph, is there a way back for truss ? The tories ?

Would be good to get your thoughts

Hugh 17-10-2022 19:24
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Sephiroth 17-10-2022 19:35
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Seph, is there a way back for truss ? The tories ?

Would be good to get your thoughts
Honoured that you should seek my thoughts.

She's a naffing disaster - both for the country and her previously fine (sort of) party.

But, the parliamentary party is tactically split. They are united in their disgust at Truss but divided on what it looks like if we have yet another PM.

For my part, it's necessary to have another PM (that isn't Starmer or Boris) if only to see us sensibly out to the next election (and defeat) without further wrecking the UK.

mrmistoffelees 17-10-2022 19:39
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Honoured that you should seek my thoughts.

She's a naffing disaster - both for the country and her previously fine (sort of) party.

But, the parliamentary party is tactically split. They are united in their disgust at Truss but divided on what it looks like if we have yet another PM.

For my part, it's necessary to have another PM (that isn't Starmer or Boris) if only to see us sensibly out to the next election (and defeat) without further wrecking the UK.
Always good to get people’s thoughts !!

So if the party is split could a ‘unity’ ticket even work ?

Sephiroth 17-10-2022 19:51
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Always good to get people’s thoughts !!

So if the party is split could a ‘unity’ ticket even work ?
It would have to be a unity ticket if there were to be any chance of governmental stability.

It will be difficult, though. The only unity I can see, and that is as a total layman, is that the parliamentary party should agree rules that allow no more than three candidates, one nominated by each faction and a short, sharp MP vote. All over in a couple of days. This would depend on Truss' resignation which could be orchestrated by the appropriate number of boos!

If only ....

Julian 17-10-2022 19:53
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Oh dear

Damien 17-10-2022 19:53
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Hunt will not commit to keeping triple lock for pensioners
Yeah, that might go. It's already something they've suggested they might cut after the next election and it's such an expense they'll be tempted. If only because they've cut elsewhere so much.

mrmistoffelees 17-10-2022 19:53
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It would have to be a unity ticket if there were to be any chance of governmental stability.

It will be difficult, though. The only unity I can see, and that is as a total layman, is that the parliamentary party should agree rules that allow no more than three candidates, one nominated by each faction and a short, sharp MP vote. All over in a couple of days. This would depend on Truss' resignation which could be orchestrated by the appropriate number of boos!

If only ....
And realistically how does this play out ? GE? Truss somehow clings on ? The party manages to unite ?


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