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Does this mean people can't go to their normal place of work?

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Looking at the pdf we can still go to work.

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You can, but you shouldn’t unless you absolutely have to.

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Just had a management email from where I work.

Basically none essential staff that are not involved in the manufacture and shipping of our products should either work from home or just stay home and people with medical issues or pregnant.

For everyone else we have 2 maintain a 2 metre distance when not in the clean rooms.

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Eminently sensible advice.

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Asda’s grocery ordering system (app and website) crashed right after BoJo’s announcement this evening and hasn’t come back online yet. Thankfully I already have Friday’s order in, and a recurring booking for Friday morning deliveries (if only I can get in by Wednesday week to complete the next one!)

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Morrisons is down atm as well.

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They're still charging you the monthly fees though...

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So disappointed with one of my closest friends, he was listening to me telling a colleague of quite forcibly for getting to close and then my pal went quiet when I asked him what he did at the weekend, turns out him, his brother his wife and their daughter went round his mothers on sunday.

Thanks for that, need to visit the post office tomorrow

Looking at mine, no it won't

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l have not got much hair so l will be perfectly fine.:)

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Luckily we have a Tesco order for later next week and a Morrisons one the week after.

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A friend went to Lidl at 8am this morning to do a shop for us. I didn't expect to get half the items on my list but he has just left the bags on our doorstep and I can't believe he got everything even paracetamol. He said the only shelves that were empty were tinned goods.

He was reassured to see that the roads and the shop were almost empty - main road into the centre of Manchester and usually nose to tail and slow moving at that time of day.

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I think most people will have got the message last night, I wold expect to see shops be able to re-stock very quickly with reduced demand.

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I went and got the paper first thing as the newsagent is one of the essential services allowed to be open. Eerily quiet, I was able to cross the main A24 in the village without having to wait for a gap in the traffic. Hardly a car in sight. Normally pretty nose-to-tail.

My red top is offereing free delivery for the next 12 weeks but I think it's probably less risky to go and get one myself, keep a distance from anybody and try not to touch anything: Imagine one infected paperboy delivering to hundreds of homes. :erm:

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Boris' announcement not a surprise. He's tried the ask nicely and too many simply ignored it spoiling things for those who are trying to be as normal as possible sensibly. So now comes the stick and if that doesn't work the stick with spikes and barbed wire.

Can't get deliveries - all slots booked solid so will have to venture out for food for us and pets. Even click/collect is booked up for next 3-4 weeks. Shame on those simply grabbing slots in future and not sharing. We even paid for week time slots but not booked them as we vary times.

Gym has frozen membership but trying to get small stuff to use at home at a fair price...

Got some instant light charcoal at Homebase yesterday - only really use it to clean the barbie at start of season - I have better stuff for cooking with. May need to order some more soon. But can I get nice pieces of meat (brisket, bone in pork shoulder etc.) for long smokes?

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I don't have links for this but my wife was emailed this from a doctor friend. It's not simply catching the virus that is the issue (for most) but how you catch it.

Message from a consultant in ICU. Good info:

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Why do we need to shut places where people group?

Remember this: VIRAL LOAD

There will be a lot about this. Why is it important?

With this virus, the amount of virus in your blood at first infection directly relates to the severity of the illness you will suffer. This isn’t unusual - HIV management is all about reducing viral load to keep people alive longer. BUT it’s very important in COVID-19.

So if you are in, say, a pub or religious building or entertainment venue with 200 people and a large number don’t have symptoms but are shedding, you are breathing in lots of droplets per minute and absorbing a high load of the virus. In a crowded space. They become ill over the next 48 hours. You then three days later wonder why you can’t breathe and end up in hospital. You’d decided because you were young and healthy it wasn’t going to be a problem. Wrong.

Fortunately but unfortunately because the elderly are isolating quite well, the initial UK data suggests that all age groups above 20 are almost equally represented in ITUs in England. Most of the cases are in London but the wave is moving outwards.

This means that being under 60 and fit and well doesn’t seem to be as protective as we thought. Why? Viral load.

This may be skewed simply by the fact that too many Londoners didn’t do as asked and congregated in large groups in confined spaces and got a large initial viral load. They then went home and infected their wider families. Which is why, as London is overwhelmed, we need to shut everything down to save the rest of the UK. We are a week at most behind London.

Our sympathies go out to the families affected in London and the critical care teams battling right now to save as many as they can.

If I sit with one person and catch this virus, I get a small viral load. My immune system will start to fight it and by the time the virus starts replicating, I’m ready to kill it.

No medicines will help this process meaningfully hence there is no “cure” for this virus. All we can do is support you with a ventilator and hope your immune system can catch up fast enough.

If I sit in the same room with six people, all shedding I get six times the initial dose. The rise in viral load is faster than my immune system can cope with and it is overrun. I then become critically ill and need me (or someone of my specialty) to fix it instead of just being at home and being ok in the end.

THIS BIT IS IMPORTANT:

If you are a large family group, remember that by being ill and in the same room, you will make each other ill or “more ill”. If you get sick, isolate just yourself to one room and stay there. Don’t all sit in one room coughing. You will increase the viral load for all of you, reducing your survival rate.

A family of six people may produce double the droplets of a family of three in the same space. Maths is important.

If one of you is symptomatic, assume you are all shedding and make sure you keep some space.

Parents are getting it from their kids because no one is going to stop comforting their child (nor should they) so the parent gets a big hit as well as the child. I don’t think that can be helped.

REMEMBER: THINK ABOUT VIRAL LOAD

It could save your life or your child’s

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Just been out for a walk streets are empty food shops and the pet shop open,community support officer just shut down the hand car wash place while police officer making his way to site,people were turning up to have car washed and then turning around when they saw gates being locked.

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***IMPORTANT***

Those who are extremely vulnerable to the coronavirus and who have no friends/family/neighbours/carers to help them are asked to register here for food parcels etc. from the Government:

https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus-extre...IB9-HUM14yLn7w

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You missed out "only available in England".