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1andrew1 12-04-2017 08:41

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35894299)
Oh good grief is no one allowed to make a mistake in your world. :rolleyes:

Corbyn needs to be kicked in the long grass along with his ex-lover Diane Abbott. Worst Labour opposition benches I have seen in years.

Trump is getting wise to the fact that some of his alt-right mates just can't cut the butter. We saw that recently with his approach to Stephen Bannon. When a PR person becomes the story and not the story they're trying to put across then they've failed. Spicer's appalling judgment makes United Continental look a class act. I can see Trump sidelining him.

Mr K 12-04-2017 13:59

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39575680
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Melania Trump wins damages from Daily Mail over 'escort' allegation
Yet another fail from the Fail....

$3miilion should buy Melania a new pair of shoes, nice ;)

passingbat 12-04-2017 14:02

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35894303)
Spicer's appalling judgment makes United Continental look a class act..


Yes, I remember that bit in the press conference, when Spicer started physically beating up one of the press guys. Shocking, absolutely shocking!


Andrew, he messed up his wording, that's all. He corrected and acknowledged it later in the same press conference, and apologised later.


You do realise that the only man who never made a mistake, is the man who never did anything, don't you?

Damien 12-04-2017 15:37

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35894365)
Yes, I remember that bit in the press conference, when Spicer started physically beating up one of the press guys. Shocking, absolutely shocking!


Andrew, he messed up his wording, that's all. He corrected and acknowledged it later in the same press conference, and apologised later.


You do realise that the only man who never made a mistake, is the man who never did anything, don't you?

He didn't just mess up the wording. The very compassion was poor and that's what he apologised later for.

TheDaddy 12-04-2017 16:07

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35894365)
Yes, I remember that bit in the press conference, when Spicer started physically beating up one of the press guys. Shocking, absolutely shocking!


Andrew, he messed up his wording, that's all. He corrected and acknowledged it later in the same press conference, and apologised later.


You do realise that the only man who never made a mistake, is the man who never did anything, don't you?

That's not all, its true you do learn something new everyday as it turns out he was factually incorrect to, hitler did use chemical weapons on the battlefield at the seige of Sevastopol, Odessa and Adzhimushkay quarry and the allies hands weren't clean either

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_raid_on_Bari

passingbat 12-04-2017 17:41

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I'm glad I'm on a forum with so many perfect people, who always get facts right and never mess up.


You guy's truly are unique.


Strange that I managed to get the point that he was making, even though it was clumsily made. As the Americans say, 'Go figure!'.

papa smurf 12-04-2017 18:02

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your honor mr iltah isn't here to defend himself - move to strike testimony :)

TheDaddy 12-04-2017 18:19

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35894395)
I'm glad I'm on a forum with so many perfect people, who always get facts right and never mess up.


You guy's truly are unique.


Strange that I managed to get the point that he was making, even though it was clumsily made. As the Americans say, 'Go figure!'.

I've made dozens of mistakes on here, thing is even on something as mundane as a forum I've never claimed something to be a fact when I wasn't sure of it and i got the point he was making, turns out though not only was it crass and insensitive it was also wrong, call me a mad old fool but I prefer it when people in authority don't make childish errors like that and on balance it sums the guy up, out of his depth, he's not waving he's drowning.

Mick 12-04-2017 18:19

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Yes it is very typical that the Democrats are insisting on Sean Spicer's sacking. But not once did I hear them saying Hillary Clinton should withdraw from the election race when it came out she received the questions prior to a TV debate between her and Bernie Sanders. Now it serves them right, propping up the wrong candidate and they are still losing as Republican, Ron Estes, won congress seat for State of Kansas last night. Trump territory, so safe Republican seat.

Damien 12-04-2017 18:46

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35894395)
I'm glad I'm on a forum with so many perfect people, who always get facts right and never mess up.


You guy's truly are unique.


Strange that I managed to get the point that he was making, even though it was clumsily made. As the Americans say, 'Go figure!'.

No, it's the point people are objecting too. We get the point.

It's isn't justified to make the comparison that Hitler didn't use chemical weapons in the field as if that's any sort of difference from what he did use it for. (Also factually untrue but that isn't so widely known).

Now he has apologized for that and so whatever it's your continued defense of the point he was making in the briefing even after he himself has retracted it that's continuing this.

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35894404)
Now it serves them right, propping up the wrong candidate and they are still losing as Republican, Ron Estes, won congress seat for State of Kansas last night. Trump territory, so safe Republican seat.

That was the one that had a 24 point swing from the Republicans to the Democrats right? The Democrats will be happy with that. They're not going to win every seat in the country even in a landslide but if safe Republican seats are seeing 24 point swings they'll be optimistic (A similar swing in the midterms will see then win the house in a landslide).

http://www.kansascity.com/news/polit...144061274.html

1andrew1 12-04-2017 19:00

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35894410)
No, it's the point people are objecting too. We get the point.

It's isn't justified to make the comparison that Hitler didn't use chemical weapons in the field as if that's any sort of difference from what he did use it for. (Also factually untrue but that isn't so widely known).

Now he has apologized for that and so whatever it's your continued defense of the point he was making in the briefing even after he himself has retracted it that's continuing this.

Agreed. To continue to defend Spencer's words when he himself has taken them back is something I'm unable to fathom.

passingbat 12-04-2017 19:16

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35894413)
Agreed. To continue to defend Spencer's words when he himself has taken them back is something I'm unable to fathom.


You really are missing the point. He messed up. He apologised. Was it an intentional slur on the Jewish people? No way. Time to forgive the guy for messing up and move on.

1andrew1 12-04-2017 20:53

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35894419)
You really are missing the point. He messed up. He apologised. Was it an intentional slur on the Jewish people? No way. Time to forgive the guy for messing up and move on.

I think you've failed to recall my initial point - I feel Spencer's poor judgment will mean that Trump will sideline him. We're not talking a typo in a press release but the extraordinarily poor judgment of attempting to benchmark Assad to Hitler.
Spencer further compounded the misjudgment by a multitude of inaccurate statements:
- he said Hitler never gassed people
- he called concentration camps "holocaust centres"
- he tried to differentiate between Hitler's "own people" and victims of the holocaust.
I'm sure people will forgive him but Spencer's going to have to be super good for Trump not to sideline him.

passingbat 12-04-2017 21:22

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35894432)
I think you've failed to recall my initial point - I feel Spencer's poor judgment will mean that Trump will sideline him. .


I really hope he doesn't. And I have great concern for anyone who works for you and makes a mistake.


'poor judgment': He got himself tied up in knots and fumbled over words. It happens to all of us from time to time.

1andrew1 12-04-2017 22:17

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35894441)
I really hope he doesn't. And I have great concern for anyone who works for you and makes a mistake.
'poor judgment': He got himself tied up in knots and fumbled over words. It happens to all of us from time to time.

Comparing someone to Hitler is not fumbling over words, it's a deliberate strategy. It's not my call but Trump is starting to sideline and remove those in his team whom he perceives not to be delivering.


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