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1andrew1 03-05-2017 12:14

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35897296)
Not true, Dave. Now TV is available on other platforms. No reason why it shouldn't go on the Virgin platform too, as long as Virgin viewers pay the £6.99 per month for the privilege, why should they care? Talk Talk managed it, so I don't see why VM couldn't if they wanted to.

The live Now TV service is not available on any of the main pay TV platforms - BT, TalkTalk, Sky or VM.
(Whilst Now TV Movies is available on BT and TalkTalk, it's just a film library, not a live TV service.)

ozsat 03-05-2017 16:08

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
We Amazon subscription - once you paid your sub you still have to pay extra for a lot of the content.
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35897227)
Is this for the app only, or for Amazon TV to be available at no extra cost?


passingbat 03-05-2017 16:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35897328)
We Amazon subscription - once you paid your sub you still have to pay extra for a lot of the content.


To be fair, there is a lot of free Prime video included content, including a reasonable number of first run rights shows and Amazon's own content . When coupled with other Prime benefits, they more than justify the subscription cost IMHO

denphone 03-05-2017 16:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35897329)
To be fair, there is a lot of free Prime video included content, including a reasonable number of first run rights shows and Amazon's own content . When coupled with other Prime benefits, they more than justify the subscription cost IMHO

l would agree PB as there is plenty on there free.

OLD BOY 04-05-2017 11:19

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35897297)
Face it OB with the packages as they are it's never going to happen, nearly all Virgins packages include the Sky channels with the exception of Sky Atlantic. The only way Sky Atlantic will arrive is when Sky decide it's time to reach a commercial arrangement with VM.

You're missing the point I'm making. If you are subscribing to VM with the Full House package, there is no real reason why the Now TV Entertainment Pass could not be made available to those who wanted a couple of extra channels. VM would not lose money because the viewer's subscription to the Full House package was maintained and Sky would benefit from the £6.99 per month paid by the VM subscriber.

You mustn't forget that the only reason some VM subscribers are lost to Sky is that Sky offer SA. So why would VM not agree to it?

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35897307)
The live Now TV service is not available on any of the main pay TV platforms - BT, TalkTalk, Sky or VM.
(Whilst Now TV Movies is available on BT and TalkTalk, it's just a film library, not a live TV service.)

Live TV is on the cable service anyway. Why would we particularly want that service duplicated on the Now TV Entertainment Pass app that I have suggested?

If you meant live Sky Atlantic and ITV Encore, why would there be a need to see those channels live when those programmes are displayed as part of a programme library that you just click on to view at a time that suits you, with no ads?

---------- Post added at 11:19 ---------- Previous post was at 11:17 ----------

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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35897328)
We Amazon subscription - once you paid your sub you still have to pay extra for a lot of the content.

Only for the additional content for which Amazon don't own the rights. All the films it is able to get the rights to and its own original content are free once you subscribe to the Prime service.

1andrew1 04-05-2017 11:51

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If Now TV ever went onto VM, Sky would use anyone who signed up to relentlessly sell their full TV service to. With Sky offering full services via broadband in the future, VM would be foolish to entertain the possibility.

Dave42 04-05-2017 12:10

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35897435)
You're missing the point I'm making. If you are subscribing to VM with the Full House package, there is no real reason why the Now TV Entertainment Pass could not be made available to those who wanted a couple of extra channels. VM would not lose money because the viewer's subscription to the Full House package was maintained and Sky would benefit from the £6.99 per month paid by the VM subscriber.

You mustn't forget that the only reason some VM subscribers are lost to Sky is that Sky offer SA. So why would VM not agree to it?

---------- Post added at 11:17 ---------- Previous post was at 11:12 ----------


Live TV is on the cable service anyway. Why would we particularly want that service duplicated on the Now TV Entertainment Pass app that I have suggested?

If you meant live Sky Atlantic and ITV Encore, why would there be a need to see those channels live when those programmes are displayed as part of a programme library that you just click on to view at a time that suits you, with no ads?

---------- Post added at 11:19 ---------- Previous post was at 11:17 ----------


Only for the additional content for which Amazon don't own the rights. All the films it is able to get the rights to and its own original content are free once you subscribe to the Prime service.

your missing point OB sky own nowtv they would have to agree to it VM cant just add it without sky agreeing and again sky dont want anyone else to have SA at all

OLD BOY 04-05-2017 12:53

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35897454)
your missing point OB sky own nowtv they would have to agree to it VM cant just add it without sky agreeing and again sky dont want anyone else to have SA at all

If that's true, why can I get Now TV on my smart Sony TV? These are old views which need updating in the light of what is happening out there.

1andrew1 04-05-2017 13:01

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35897456)
If that's true, why can I get Now TV on my smart Sony TV? These are old views which need updating in the light of what is happening out there.

Your Sony TV doesn't have a wholesale deal with Sky nor does it sell broadband. BT, TalkTalk and VM all do hence why they don't offer the Now TV app.

telegramsam 04-05-2017 13:02

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
I don't think it's a case of Sky don't want anyone else to have Sky Atlantic,more likely they don't want Virgin to have it as,in their view,it would enhance Virgins TV portfolio.

1andrew1 04-05-2017 13:18

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Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35897458)
I don't think it's a case of Sky don't want anyone else to have Sky Atlantic,more likely they don't want Virgin to have it as,in their view,it would enhance Virgins TV portfolio.

If so, why is it not on TalkTalk?

telegramsam 04-05-2017 13:23

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35897460)
If so, why is it not on TalkTalk?

Do Talk Talk want it? Perhaps they can't afford the money Sky are asking for it? Or perhaps they (Sky) don't want to enhance Talk Talks portfolio either?

nodrogd 04-05-2017 13:38

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35897451)
If Now TV ever went onto VM, Sky would use anyone who signed up to relentlessly sell their full TV service to. With Sky offering full services via broadband in the future, VM would be foolish to entertain the possibility.

We will have to see where Sky go with this. It could be that the full streaming service will be restricted to Sky BB customers. If not, would Sky be creating a monopoly that would inevitably attract the attention of the regulators

Dave42 04-05-2017 14:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35897458)
I don't think it's a case of Sky don't want anyone else to have Sky Atlantic,more likely they don't want Virgin to have it as,in their view,it would enhance Virgins TV portfolio.

they why it only available on a sky platform simple they don't want anyone one else to have it

theone2k10 04-05-2017 14:22

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35897457)
Your Sony TV doesn't have a wholesale deal with Sky nor does it sell broadband. BT, TalkTalk and VM all do hence why they don't offer the Now TV app.

Sony have a tv service playstation vue, wether or not it'll launch in uk is a matter of wait and see, they certainlt want to launch in uk.


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