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SnoopZ 17-11-2013 19:09
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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35646193)
You would say that as you have the X1 on order. :D

I think both will be great after a bit of time but also I don't expect the launch titles to be too brilliant. I'm happy to wait it out to see what the reviews say over a bit of time when the dust settles. For once I'm not going to rush into things.
I am not biased at all, clearly the X1 has the better textures on BF4 in the video posted a while back and i have played it. :)

I just hope the X1 doesn't have as many problems as the Ps4 is currently having.

adzii_nufc 17-11-2013 19:10
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We shouldn't compare it to a PC anymore. I've been criticised for it and likely deservingly when comparing them to my PC listed in my sig.

Graphics and res can never be compared because it's obvious a PC is going to win. So you move onto playability and general fun.

I've had more fun with my 360 than any other console or PC. Xbox live was the killer in this generation. It made Sony's online platform look like a cheap knockoff. It was easily worth the £30 a year for me. It was simple to use and they just about got everything right with it.

The controller although built for console was also compatible with PC. For owners of both this was a huge deal when you look at the lack of controllers and controller support on PC's. It made console ports so much better on PC's for a change. So Microsoft was in two marketswwith one device.

Exclusives such as HALO 3. I remember the midnight launches for this across the world. It was the biggest event in gaming for its time. Obviously it's since been beaten but us true fans will never forget.

SnoopZ 17-11-2013 19:17
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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35646196)
We shouldn't compare it to a PC anymore. I've been criticised for it and likely deservingly when comparing them to my PC listed in my sig.

Graphics and res can never be compared because it's obvious a PC is going to win. So you move onto playability and general fun.

I've had more fun with my 360 than any other console or PC. Xbox live was the killer in this generation. It made Sony's online platform look like a cheap knockoff. It was easily worth the £30 a year for me. It was simple to use and they just about got everything right with it.

The controller although built for console was also compatible with PC. For owners of both this was a huge deal when you look at the lack of controllers and controller support on PC's. It made console ports so much better on PC's for a change. So Microsoft was in two marketswwith one device.

Exclusives such as HALO 3. I remember the midnight launches for this across the world. It was the biggest event in gaming for its time. Obviously it's since been beaten but us true fans will never forget.
Yes true i never compare with a PC. :)

peanut 17-11-2013 19:28
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35646199)
Yes true i never compare with a PC. :)
I do agree, but I did say a half decent PC, nothing like today's standard I must add but something like 3+ years old that is still going strong.

I will hopefully be getting one of the consoles at some point, originally I was just going to get the X1 because I've never had a PS and had the 360 from launch so the X1 was my first choice without any consideration of the PS4. But this time because they are being launched so close together and there ain't much info when it comes down to a more realistic review for comparisons at the moment I'm happy to wait it out for a bit. Hopefully for not too long though.

When the 360 was launched it was classed as next gen, and in some ways it was compared to the playstation and the Xbox, but to call the new ones 'next gen' again, I hoping my high expectations are met, but so far they've made me cautious.

The one thing I will add is that I'm more disappointed with PC gaming now more than ever. It's going to take a lot of convincing now to save up and spend out for a 'gaming' PC now. I might at a push upgrade a few bits, but it won't be anything major if and when it comes to it. Consoles are going to be the 1st for any kind of gaming choice obviously now.

MadGamer 17-11-2013 20:09
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So the TV stuff will work from launch then?

Bulky 17-11-2013 20:14
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Originally Posted by MadGamer (Post 35646220)
So the TV stuff will work from launch then?
You'll be able to snap the tv onto screen but the TV guide part won't be available until next year I believe .

SnoopZ 17-11-2013 20:32
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I hope it will work with Virgin and sky later next year.

It would be nice to say 'Xbox watch Sky 1' etc and then it does it all for you.

Stephen 17-11-2013 20:37
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35646170)
But these features show where Microsoft's focus is. Whilst they were securing rights to the NFL Sony were courting indie developers. I don't want a media center that plays games. I want a games console.
I disagree. Its still primarily a games console that also functions as a media centre.

As for indy games. look at the 360 its got a massive Indy game section. I see the One being the same at the end of the day.

Microsoft know people want a games console but also that having an all in one media box is a help to people if they want to make use of it.

Remember if you don't use any of the other stuff its 100% still a games console.

SnoopZ 17-11-2013 20:41
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I expect the X1 to have alot of Indie games eventually considering ALL X1s are development kits now. :)

Stephen 17-11-2013 20:47
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35646187)
I want a games console that is also a media centre so the X1 ticks all the right boxes for me so far, i just hope i made the best decision, only time will tell but so far comparing multiplat games the only difference is on some games the PS4 has more games in 1080p and the X1 more in 720p upscaled which probably wont make much difference visually unless someone is sitting 12 inches from their TV.

I also expect as time goes on the majority of games will be 1080p native on both consoles as the developers get more experienced as both consoles are so similar in performance.

Here is the latest comparison of Need for Speed Rivals which runs at 1080p native 30fps on both consoles.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...ce-off-preview
Not much between the two but I think I prefer the One version, just looks a wee bit nicer.

SnoopZ 17-11-2013 20:48
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Microsoft have started shipping X1s now from them directly, some people are saying delivery is expected Tuesday 19th on their despatch status.

Bulky 17-11-2013 21:00
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35646243)
Microsoft have started shipping X1s now from them directly, some people are saying delivery is expected Tuesday 19th on their despatch status.
Mine says order in process :(

Damien 17-11-2013 21:04
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35646239)
As for indy games. look at the 360 its got a massive Indy game section. I see the One being the same at the end of the day.
The PS3 is much better than the Xbox for Indie games. Some of the more interesting Indie games of the last generation were only on the PS3, Journey and Unfinished Swan to name but two. Fez took ages to patch a game breaking bug because Microsoft charged $50,000 to post updates to the store and the developers backed out. Sony let them do it for free. Sony sent development kits to Indie developers whilst Microsoft ignored them until another of their U-Turns. While Sony put Indie gaming in their E3 presentation Microsoft barely talked about games to boast about their 'exclusive' deal with the NFL.

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Microsoft know people want a games console but also that having an all in one media box is a help to people if they want to make use of it.
They've had a funny way of showing it so far. Microsoft are pretty clear that they're positioning this as a home media device that retains a strong interest in gaming. However these features aren't just freebies added on if you want them. They took development time, they took content deals with creators (mostly American for now) and they form part of the way Microsoft markets the console. Time which could well have been spent focusing on the gaming and reaching out to developers.

The Xbox will still have Halo, all the multi platform games and so on. Microsoft will always have Grand Theft Auto, FIFA, Call of Duty and so on on their console. Yet I think Sony's more aggressive courting of developers and their positioning of their console as an gaming machine first will mean it will follow this generations pattern of the Playstation getting the riskier, smaller and more innovative games.

The Xbox still has two very strong cards: Xbox live and that controller. Microsoft know software and that still shows in their LIVE services and their dashboard UI. The rubbish XMB interface and flimsy controller on the PS3 meant I played all multi-platform games on my Xbox and used the PS3 only for the aforementioned Indie games and the exclusives (Heavy Rain, Last of Us).

Still I am in two minds this generation. I honestly probably will get the one with the better reviews as I am so undecided.

adzii_nufc 17-11-2013 21:08
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35646252)
The PS3 is much better than the Xbox for Indie games. Some of the more interesting Indie games of the last generation were only on the PS3, Journey and Unfinished Swan to name but two. Fez took ages to patch a game breaking bug because Microsoft charged $50,000 to post updates to the store and the developers backed out. Sony let them do it for free. Sony sent development kits to Indie developers whilst Microsoft ignored them until another of their U-Turns. While Sony put Indie gaming in their E3 presentation Microsoft barely talked about games to boast about their 'exclusive' deal with the NFL.



They've had a funny way of showing it so far. Microsoft are pretty clear that they're positioning this as a home media device that retains a strong interest in gaming. However these features aren't just freebies added on if you want them. They took development time, they took content deals with creators (mostly American for now) and they form part of the way Microsoft markets the console. Time which could well have been spent focusing on the gaming and reaching out to developers.

The Xbox will still have Halo, all the multi platform games and so on. Microsoft will always have Grand Theft Auto, FIFA, Call of Duty and so on on their console. Yet I think Sony's more aggressive courting of developers and their positioning of their console as an gaming machine first will mean it will follow this generations pattern of the Playstation getting the riskier, smaller and more innovative games.

The Xbox still has two very strong cards: Xbox live and that controller. Microsoft know software and that still shows in their LIVE services and their dashboard UI. The rubbish XMB interface and flimsy controller on the PS3 meant I played all multi-platform games on my Xbox and used the PS3 only for the aforementioned Indie games and the exclusives (Heavy Rain, Last of Us).

Still I am in two minds this generation. I honestly probably will get the one with the better reviews as I am so undecided.
Three strong cards. You failed to mention Titanfall which will become the COD of this generation and a licence to print money.

Stephen 17-11-2013 21:19
Re: The Xbox One Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35646252)
The PS3 is much better than the Xbox for Indie games. Some of the more interesting Indie games of the last generation were only on the PS3, Journey and Unfinished Swan to name but two. Fez took ages to patch a game breaking bug because Microsoft charged $50,000 to post updates to the store and the developers backed out. Sony let them do it for free. Sony sent development kits to Indie developers whilst Microsoft ignored them until another of their U-Turns. While Sony put Indie gaming in their E3 presentation Microsoft barely talked about games to boast about their 'exclusive' deal with the NFL.



They've had a funny way of showing it so far. Microsoft are pretty clear that they're positioning this as a home media device that retains a strong interest in gaming. However these features aren't just freebies added on if you want them. They took development time, they took content deals with creators (mostly American for now) and they form part of the way Microsoft markets the console. Time which could well have been spent focusing on the gaming and reaching out to developers.
Of course it took development time but as a consumer you have a choice and can simply use the machine as a gaming console and thats all. Same for new TVs with all the smart apps, many people won't use them and will simply use the TV function, they are still there for future use though.

If it works though many people will prefer having just one box that can do everything.

Also when enabled all Xbox Ones will be able to act as dev machines.


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