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Stuart 05-04-2004 15:02
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Julian
I've also given up watching it. :(

I find the comments regarding Michael Schumacher being the best driver interesting... How is it possible to judge who is the best driver when they drive different cars? :shrug:

Surely whoever is driving the fastest car will win? :)

IIRC, he has consistantly won (or done well) whatever car he has driven. Even if that car is considered inferior to one of the competitors.

gary_580 05-04-2004 15:58
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gazzae
Its only so close because of the re-starts that NASCAR have, for example in that race you mentioned, the last restart took place on lap 302 of 334!

If F1 brought the pace car out all the time to bunch the cars up it would be a lot closer too.
34 laps was about 50miles i guess the Ferraris could have had at least half a lap lead in that time. Funnily enough there were peirods in that race of 120+ laps without caution and still the gap between 1st and 5th was only a couple of seconds.

gazzae 05-04-2004 16:04
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gary_580
Funnily enough there were peirods in that race of 120+ laps without caution and still the gap between 1st and 5th was only a couple of seconds.
Then why do they need to bring the pace car out to carry out restarts?

Graham 05-04-2004 21:31
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gary_580
ohhh was there another F1 procession yesterday?
Better than high speed driving around a roundabout...!

Quote:
check out the nascar site and see how close the finish was AGAIN and after 500 miles
Quote: "Sadler averaged 138.845 mph in the race slowed by seven caution periods that took 45 laps."

So you have a "race" where almost a *third* of it is spend crawling around under caution flags. Of course that does give them plenty of time to put adverts into the programme, but it would be cynical to suggest that there is a connection. I mean imagine interrupting a football game for commercials...

... oh, hang on, they *do* that in US football...!!

And, if you missed the Bahrain Grand Prix, you actually missed some incredibly exciting driving.

I think the Bahrain course is one of the best ones ever, there are at least three good passing places, a couple of long straights that allow good drivers in under-powered cars to slipstream their faster competitors and gain an advantage and some challenging and well designed corners to test the drivers' skills and abilities.

I hope this course is used for many years to come.

paulyoung666 05-04-2004 21:35
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Better than high speed driving around a roundabout...!



Quote: "Sadler averaged 138.845 mph in the race slowed by seven caution periods that took 45 laps."

So you have a "race" where almost a *third* of it is spend crawling around under caution flags. Of course that does give them plenty of time to put adverts into the programme, but it would be cynical to suggest that there is a connection. I mean imagine interrupting a football game for commercials...

... oh, hang on, they *do* that in US football...!!

And, if you missed the Bahrain Grand Prix, you actually missed some incredibly exciting driving.

I think the Bahrain course is one of the best ones ever, there are at least three good passing places, a couple of long straights that allow good drivers in under-powered cars to slipstream their faster competitors and gain an advantage and some challenging and well designed corners to test the drivers' skills and abilities.

I hope this course is used for many years to come.



yes i enjoyed it as well :tu:

DrAwesome 09-04-2004 00:43
Threat to slow cars down b4 eos
 
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DrAwesome 09-04-2004 00:46
European GP ticket prices cut by 50% to increase spectators
 
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ian@huth 24-04-2004 13:27
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
Montoya has just put in a fantastic lap in Saturday pre qualifying, over half a second faster than Ralf with Michael third and Jenson fourth.

EDIT. Pre qualifying has just finished with Coulthard nipping in front of Jenson but Raikkonen is over half a second slower than David.

paulyoung666 24-04-2004 14:55
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
j button :clap: :nworthy: :clap: :nworthy: :clap: :nworthy: :clap: , nuff said :tu:

iadom 05-05-2004 10:32
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
Major rule changes are agreed, long overdue IMHO.

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homealone 05-05-2004 10:45
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
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Originally Posted by iadom
Major rule changes are agreed, long overdue IMHO.

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agreed, especially the electronic driver aids & all on the same tyres.:)

sherer 05-05-2004 19:00
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
i like the new changes as well but can't understand why refueling will remain.. they wantto get back driver skill and make sure there is overtaking on the track so why bring in a false and dangerous element like refuling.. How many times has a driver said "i couldn't pass so waited for the stops" what if there were no stops.. i don't want to see the team who did a better calculation on a spreadsheet winning a race but the driver who raced the best on the day.. if there was no refueling as well then the single tyre supplier could then produce a hard tyre that would last a whole race.. this would slow the cars down and if it was really hard then sliding the car wouldn't affect the cars as much as it does now..

paulyoung666 05-05-2004 19:24
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer
i like the new changes as well but can't understand why refueling will remain.. they wantto get back driver skill and make sure there is overtaking on the track so why bring in a false and dangerous element like refuling.. How many times has a driver said "i couldn't pass so waited for the stops" what if there were no stops.. i don't want to see the team who did a better calculation on a spreadsheet winning a race but the driver who raced the best on the day.. if there was no refueling as well then the single tyre supplier could then produce a hard tyre that would last a whole race.. this would slow the cars down and if it was really hard then sliding the car wouldn't affect the cars as much as it does now..

valid point i reckon :tu: , i still fear though , it is still going to be the richer teams that can afford more in r&d that will win , maybe if there was a cap on the amount of money that teams could spend then the opportunity for the smaller teams would be greater , or is that sanitising it too far :confused:

sherer 06-05-2004 11:09
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
yes i think you could be right about that.. any change always plays into the bigger teams hands.. If this is going to happen in 06 then Williams, McLaren and Ferrari will be starting to build a 2.4 Litre V6 already and all the other stuff that's going to come along.. Minardi and Jordan can't start doing this until much nearer the time and won't be as ready.. It's a good start though just wish Mosley would get rid of his fixaction with this chess match like strategy the teams do with refueling..

Would like to see the cars mad wider again with bigger tyres but keep the wings the same size they are now.. that way they can't complain about having less advertising space and it will give proportionally less downforce than before..

paulyoung666 08-05-2004 13:35
Re: Formula One Motor Racing
 
sato , quickest , i reckon this is going to be well interesting :tu:


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