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I dont like any of Dali's work, Come to think of it i dont like Van Gogh either, infact most painters from the past i dont like. Da Vinci's art inspired me, and Escher.

Here is some more work of mine, it varies to what I draw really.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/09/5.jpg

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/09/6.jpg

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/09/7.jpg

^^^^ Thats from when I was like 16. 1991. Its old.

Oh don't get me wrong, the quality of his work, his skill as a painter are unquestionable.

If I were to take a photo (as I can't paint) of a salmon on an old style telephone where the reciever should be, to me, although that would be surreal in that you wouldn't in reality have a salmon on a telephone reciever, it's trying to be surreal.

Perhaps it's that the surrealism is the subject of his artwork, rather than a blended in part of it.
It just feels to me as though Dali painted to create surreal paintings to keep up the interest in surrealism and therefore himself, rather than painting to express something inside.
Maybe I'm just too cynical, but I feel the same about Warhol, who's art I don't rate one iota.
I think if I ever had a dream in the style of either, I'd fall asleep out of boredom!

Now Giger on the other hand, I love the dreams I have in his style (even the ones without aliens).
When I look at most of his work (some of his sculptures are in a similar vein to Dali and I don't think they're his best work) it feels like it's actually come from him.
Perhaps it's because I know he's a perfectionist through reports of his work with various film productions such as Alien, the never made Ridley Scott Dune, and Species, and the care he has for his creations expressed in his distaste at how other modify or treat them.
He also appreciates others for their artistic ability rather than who they are (I know of someone who was invited to lunch with him because they had made and were selling Gigeresque chess boards, they thought they were in trouble, but he was very impressed), although having said that, he was a fan and aquaintance of Dali.

Or maybe I just like being able to play "spot the genitalia" with Giger's work :D

I'd love to have his dining table set.
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/09/4.jpg

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34402520)

Or maybe I just like being able to play "spot the genitalia" with Giger's work :D

Well frankly you could do that with Dali's as well.In fact some of the surrealists works were extremely near the knuckle if the exhibition that I went to at the Tate Modern was anything to go by.:D

I think it's a difference of sublty and style.
Dali is more in your face shouting "Cooooeeeeeee! I'm a surrealist, aren't I special, look at me everyone, over here!" while Giger's artwork is like someone calmly sitting in the corner reading a deep book.

Similarly if I compare Boris Vallejo's artwork to that of his wife, Julie Bell, I much prefer his, simply because of her use of "metal skin" which I think detracts from the quality of the rest of her artwork, especially when done in silver/chrome. She also seems to have trouble with angled hips, or maybe it's the models she uses...

You've got to hand it to them! ::Link:: :tu:

LOL@ Enuff, Thats cool but close eye tells me they are not real but modified. The elafant for example looks to crisp for any paint I know. Forgive me if its meant to be digital but it looks it anyway.

Nearly all look enhanced which i suppose you could say is art, but i prefer as do most artists, to not alter their work, no matter what medium they work with.

Dont get me wrong im not having a go, im just saying artists take pride in what they do, and it takes a bad artist to change the original, these images are good work, but look false because in my opinion thay have been touched up, and thats a shame. If they havent then my god yes, but as an artist i can see its altered hehe.

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Originally Posted by Enuff (Post 34403538)

Artist, Guido Daniele at work.

See, to me, that is much better surrealism than Dali's work.
The artwork is primary, the surrealism (of it actually being someone's hand) is secondary.

Some quirky street art...

All I can say about these hyper-realistic pieces is wow!

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Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 34405726)

All I can say about these hyper-realistic pieces is wow!

I found those a little scary, mainly the changes in scale, i think - but 'wow', indeed :tu:

Disturbing and thought-provoking.
:tu:

Artistic paddy fields...

I think Nug left one of the comments:

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Very nice. Except growing an image of the Mona Lisa is clearly in violation of international copyrice law.

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