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Chrysalis 20-04-2006 00:28

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 
thats very good, lets hope yours stays that way.

Dogman 20-04-2006 08:05

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 
give it 5 days mate then all hell will break loose thats what happend with mine fine for about 5 days then boooooom :(

MikeyB 20-04-2006 20:50

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 
My speeds on 2MB for the past couple of days:
Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:07:25 GMT

1st 512K took 5860 ms = 87.4 KB/sec, approx 720 Kbps, 0.7 Mbps
2nd 512K took 5734 ms = 89.3 KB/sec, approx 736 Kbps, 0.72 Mbps
3rd 512K took 5500 ms = 93.1 KB/sec, approx 767 Kbps, 0.75 Mbps
4th 512K took 5484 ms = 93.4 KB/sec, approx 770 Kbps, 0.75 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 748 Kbps, 0.73 Mbps

This is the 1st time in 3 years that the speed test has not been right with my ntl connection.
I have noticed then when a speed test (or large download) is running, the US & DS lights that go out, the SYNC & RDY lights are always on.
It's like it's receiving in bursts.
ntl 120 modem connected via eathernet. Power levels look fine according to Robin Walkers page.

---------- Post added at 20:50 ---------- Previous post was at 20:19 ----------

Okay, so this may not be ntl's fault in my case.
Just been doing some more testing, and it appears to be my firewall causing the problem, Sunbelt Kerio Personal Firewall 4.
If I disable or exit Kerio, the speed test is back to a more normal looking:
Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:48:51 GMT

1st 512K took 2203 ms = 232.4 KB/sec, approx 1915 Kbps, 1.87 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2187 ms = 234.1 KB/sec, approx 1929 Kbps, 1.88 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2875 ms = 178.1 KB/sec, approx 1468 Kbps, 1.43 Mbps
4th 512K took 2141 ms = 239.1 KB/sec, approx 1970 Kbps, 1.92 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1821 Kbps, 1.78 Mbps

Chrysalis 20-04-2006 21:41

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 
interesting, I did notice in kerio 4 if you disable the tcp inspection (NIPS) that cpu usage drops dramaticly so I have that turned off, I have like you tried turning the firewall off completely but in my case it made no difference to speeds.

Jazz 20-04-2006 22:07

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis
thats very good, lets hope yours stays that way.

So far so good so I hope it stays the same!

Code:

Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:06:08 GMT

1st 512K took 438 ms = 1169 KB/sec, approx 9633 Kbps, 9.41 Mbps
2nd 512K took 437 ms = 1171.6 KB/sec, approx 9654 Kbps, 9.43 Mbps
3rd 512K took 422 ms = 1213.3 KB/sec, approx 9998 Kbps, 9.76 Mbps
4th 512K took 422 ms = 1213.3 KB/sec, approx 9998 Kbps, 9.76 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 9821 Kbps, 9.59 Mbps

Code:

Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:06:53 GMT

1st 512K took 436 ms = 1174.3 KB/sec, approx 9676 Kbps, 9.45 Mbps
2nd 512K took 436 ms = 1174.3 KB/sec, approx 9676 Kbps, 9.45 Mbps
3rd 512K took 437 ms = 1171.6 KB/sec, approx 9654 Kbps, 9.43 Mbps
4th 512K took 436 ms = 1174.3 KB/sec, approx 9676 Kbps, 9.45 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 9671 Kbps, 9.45 Mbps

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogman
give it 5 days mate then all hell will break loose thats what happend with mine fine for about 5 days then boooooom :(

This post worries me! Hope I'm one of the lucky ones but going by my luck I doubt it :(

neoapple 21-04-2006 10:53

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 
Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:52:05 UTC

1st 512K took 4359 ms = 117.5 KB/sec, approx 968 Kbps, 0.95 Mbps
2nd 512K took 4375 ms = 117 KB/sec, approx 964 Kbps, 0.94 Mbps
3rd 512K took 4375 ms = 117 KB/sec, approx 964 Kbps, 0.94 Mbps
4th 512K took 4375 ms = 117 KB/sec, approx 964 Kbps, 0.94 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 965 Kbps, 0.94 Mbps

Bromley Area

MikeyB 21-04-2006 13:22

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis
interesting, I did notice in kerio 4 if you disable the tcp inspection (NIPS) that cpu usage drops dramaticly so I have that turned off, I have like you tried turning the firewall off completely but in my case it made no difference to speeds.

I did notice that Kerio was high cpu usage.
I tried turning off various options (NIPS being one of them), but it made no difference to the speed, only thing that did was turning it off completely, so I've now un-installed Kerio.

Bill C 21-04-2006 21:09

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 
My line has gone live today. Its only on 2 meg at the moment but will be moved to the llu mux on Monday and then onto opto 22 meg . :)

So dam big :tu: to Ukonline and BT for getting my dsl up and running 4 days before the date they set for it.

And are you looking NTL

I have this speed at 21.04

Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:03:41 GMT
1st 128K took 547 ms = 239620 Bytes/sec = approx 1994 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 547 ms = 239620 Bytes/sec = approx 1994 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 547 ms = 239620 Bytes/sec = approx 1994 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 547 ms = 239620 Bytes/sec = approx 1994 kbits/sec


To repeat this test from the source server click here.

http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/sp...22390457628910

I have never got that speed after 6.00pm for 2 months on my cable connection.

Now that is what High speed Broadband is all about :) Not the dial up speed NTL subjected me to.

2||Para 21-04-2006 21:42

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 
Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:40:19 GMT

1st 512K took 4578 ms = 111.8 KB/sec, approx 921 Kbps, 0.9 Mbps
2nd 512K took 500 ms = 1024 KB/sec, approx 8438 Kbps, 8.24 Mbps
3rd 512K took 453 ms = 1130.2 KB/sec, approx 9313 Kbps, 9.09 Mbps
4th 512K took 609 ms = 840.7 KB/sec, approx 6927 Kbps, 6.76 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 6400 Kbps, 6.25 Mbps



To repeat this test from the source server click here.

Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:41:27 GMT

1st 512K took 968 ms = 528.9 KB/sec, approx 4358 Kbps, 4.26 Mbps
2nd 512K took 485 ms = 1055.7 KB/sec, approx 8699 Kbps, 8.5 Mbps
3rd 512K took 437 ms = 1171.6 KB/sec, approx 9654 Kbps, 9.43 Mbps
4th 512K took 438 ms = 1169 KB/sec, approx 9633 Kbps, 9.41 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 8086 Kbps, 7.9 Mbps

Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:41:48 GMT

1st 512K took 1234 ms = 414.9 KB/sec, approx 3419 Kbps, 3.34 Mbps
2nd 512K took 1234 ms = 414.9 KB/sec, approx 3419 Kbps, 3.34 Mbps
3rd 512K took 1047 ms = 489 KB/sec, approx 4029 Kbps, 3.93 Mbps
4th 512K took 1094 ms = 468 KB/sec, approx 3856 Kbps, 3.77 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 3681 Kbps, 3.6 Mbps

A bit up and down :dozey:

James Henry 21-04-2006 21:50

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 
Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:30:46 GMT

1st 512K took 491 ms = 1042.8 KB/sec, approx 8593 Kbps, 8.39 Mbps
2nd 512K took 510 ms = 1003.9 KB/sec, approx 8272 Kbps, 8.08 Mbps
3rd 512K took 521 ms = 982.7 KB/sec, approx 8097 Kbps, 7.91 Mbps
4th 512K took 561 ms = 912.7 KB/sec, approx 7521 Kbps, 7.34 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 8121 Kbps, 7.93 Mbps

Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:50:14 GMT

1st 512K took 551 ms = 929.2 KB/sec, approx 7657 Kbps, 7.48 Mbps
2nd 512K took 551 ms = 929.2 KB/sec, approx 7657 Kbps, 7.48 Mbps
3rd 512K took 531 ms = 964.2 KB/sec, approx 7945 Kbps, 7.76 Mbps
4th 512K took 530 ms = 966 KB/sec, approx 7960 Kbps, 7.77 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 7805 Kbps, 7.62 Mbps

Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:50:28 GMT

1st 512K took 541 ms = 946.4 KB/sec, approx 7798 Kbps, 7.62 Mbps
2nd 512K took 521 ms = 982.7 KB/sec, approx 8097 Kbps, 7.91 Mbps
3rd 512K took 591 ms = 866.3 KB/sec, approx 7138 Kbps, 6.97 Mbps
4th 512K took 511 ms = 1002 KB/sec, approx 8256 Kbps, 8.06 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 7822 Kbps, 7.64 Mbps

The test isn't the greatest for people not on ntl's network.

jtwn 22-04-2006 11:06

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 
Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:06:46 UTC
1st 128K took 109 ms = 1202495 Bytes/sec = approx 10005 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 109 ms = 1202495 Bytes/sec = approx 10005 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 110 ms = 1191564 Bytes/sec = approx 9914 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 109 ms = 1202495 Bytes/sec = approx 10005 kbits/sec

Chrysalis 22-04-2006 12:27

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyB
I did notice that Kerio was high cpu usage.
I tried turning off various options (NIPS being one of them), but it made no difference to the speed, only thing that did was turning it off completely, so I've now un-installed Kerio.

What are you using in its place? or you have no firewall now?

I have tried a few firewalls on 10meg and I found they all seem to use around the same amount of cpu with base functions, and the ones that do packet inspection when turned on will use much more cpu.

---------- Post added at 12:27 ---------- Previous post was at 12:24 ----------

alternative test not on ntl's network.

http://www.chrysalisnet.org/ntl/hfspeedtest2.html

Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:26:27 UTC

1st 512K took 359 ms = 1426.2 KB/sec, approx 11752 Kbps, 11.48 Mbps
2nd 512K took 438 ms = 1169 KB/sec, approx 9633 Kbps, 9.41 Mbps
3rd 512K took 484 ms = 1057.9 KB/sec, approx 8717 Kbps, 8.51 Mbps
4th 512K took 1063 ms = 481.7 KB/sec, approx 3969 Kbps, 3.88 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 8518 Kbps, 8.32 Mbps

Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:28:09 UTC

1st 512K took 453 ms = 1130.2 KB/sec, approx 9313 Kbps, 9.09 Mbps
2nd 512K took 406 ms = 1261.1 KB/sec, approx 10391 Kbps, 10.15 Mbps
3rd 512K took 531 ms = 964.2 KB/sec, approx 7945 Kbps, 7.76 Mbps
4th 512K took 422 ms = 1213.3 KB/sec, approx 9998 Kbps, 9.76 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 9412 Kbps, 9.19 Mbps

dragon 22-04-2006 12:54

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 
http://www.chrysalisnet.org/ntl/hfspeedtest2.html

NTL 2mbit.

Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:52:01 GMT

1st 512K took 2156 ms = 237.5 KB/sec, approx 1957 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2156 ms = 237.5 KB/sec, approx 1957 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2141 ms = 239.1 KB/sec, approx 1970 Kbps, 1.92 Mbps
4th 512K took 2140 ms = 239.3 KB/sec, approx 1972 Kbps, 1.93 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1964 Kbps, 1.92 Mbps

Not bad thought it would be worse than that actally
(brothers playing planetside reserves atm.)

Chrysalis 23-04-2006 07:16

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 
1st 512K took 391 ms = 1309.5 KB/sec, approx 10790 Kbps, 10.54 Mbps
2nd 512K took 453 ms = 1130.2 KB/sec, approx 9313 Kbps, 9.09 Mbps
3rd 512K took 422 ms = 1213.3 KB/sec, approx 9998 Kbps, 9.76 Mbps
4th 512K took 1719 ms = 297.8 KB/sec, approx 2454 Kbps, 2.4 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 8139 Kbps, 7.95 Mbps

my speed has improved recently considerably. The last one on my test site seems to always report low speed I think the browser is slow generating the page and skews the result.

MikeyB 23-04-2006 09:33

Re: NTL Speeds and Throttling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis
What are you using in its place? or you have no firewall now?

I have tried a few firewalls on 10meg and I found they all seem to use around the same amount of cpu with base functions, and the ones that do packet inspection when turned on will use much more cpu.

I've gone back to using FilSecLab firewall for the time being which I was testing before I put Kerio on, the speed difference is noticable even when load web pages, the pages here on CF load much quicker now without Kerio.


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