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Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36222662)

ffs…

indeed.

I first read the post around 2am, had a 'slight' Victor Meldrew moment, then sat 5 minutes wondering how to compose a reply that wouldn't come across as too derogatory and insulting . . and in the end just left it.

It's 2026, we no longer burn witches, but I'd gladly bring it back for some of those you tube people :erm:

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In England they hanged Witches not burnt them and in the Salem Witch trials they followed English Law and hanged them too . On the continent they burnt them

Wonder is Ann has met any of those . Maybe someone can put the question to her hahaha

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Jeez. Sometimes I'm grateful for people sharing links on here. This fruitcake exploitative video is not one of them.

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We had an environmental 'net zero' emissions law back then too? :shocked:

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Whether the contact is correct or not is up to individual people to decide but, up until the EU decided otherwise, Parliament acknowledged that spirit communication does exist and most (all?) religions believe in an afterlife. The police have in the past used mediums to try and garner information.

I believe as i've seen/heard spirits for donkeys years, but accept it sounds so out of this world (because it is) so as to be preposterous, so it's understandable to be sceptical. It's also healthy to be so because some things can be explained and some people lie or are mistaken for various reasons.

About 50% of people believe in the afterlife as opposed to the other half who don't. Interestingly some who have encountered spirits don't believe in them, whilst some who haven't done do believe in them returning on visitation.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36222693)

Whether the contact is correct or not is up to individual people to decide but, up until the EU decided otherwise, Parliament acknowledged that spirit communication does exist and most (all?) religions believe in an afterlife. The police have in the past used mediums to try and garner information.

I believe as i've seen/heard spirits for donkeys years, but accept it sounds so out of this world (because it is) so as to be preposterous, so it's understandable to be sceptical. It's also healthy to be so because some things can be explained and some people lie or are mistaken for various reasons.

About 50% of people believe in the afterlife as opposed to the other half who don't. Interestingly some who have encountered spirits don't believe in them, whilst some who haven't done do believe in them returning on visitation.

Citation needed…

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36222693)

If ghosts exist why are we not over crowded with ghosts? all the ghost cats dogs fleas cows sheep and so on

Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36222695)

Citation needed…

What I meant by this was the introduction of the Fraudulent Mediums Act. For some mediums to be fraudulent, there has to be genuine mediums.

I think it became law in the 1950's, but the EU abolished it at some point before Brexit.

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36222697)

If ghosts exist why are we not over crowded with ghosts? all the ghost cats dogs fleas cows sheep and so on

Most people/animals tend to eventually move forward, but some (people) remain Earthbound due to fear of what will happen to them or return on visitation. None take up any physicsl space as such as they are comprised of energy.

Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36222698)

What I meant by this was the introduction of the Fraudulent Mediums Act. For some mediums to be fraudulent, there has to be genuine mediums.

I think it became law in the 1950's, but the EU abolished it at some point before Brexit.

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Most people/animals tend to eventually move forward, but some (people) remain Earthbound due to fear of what will happen to them or return on visitation. None take up any physicsl space as such as they are comprised of energy.

No, it didn’t - It decriminalized mediumship and spiritualist practices, provided they were done in good faith. It made it a specific crime to fraudulently pretend to act as a medium or telepath to make money out of people.

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Legally and officially, Parliament did not validate the supernatural. The wording was designed strictly to protect citizens from financial exploitation and trickery, not to validate spiritualism or declare spirit communication a proven reality.

The Fraudulent Mediums Act 1951 was later repealed in May 2008 and replaced by standard European Union consumer protection regulations (the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008), which require commercial mediums to explicitly state that their services are for entertainment purposes only if they cannot prove their claims.

The 1951 Act stated

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga...ted?view=plain

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1)Subject to the provisions of this section, any person who—

(a)with intent to deceive purports to act as a spiritualistic medium or to exercise any powers of telepathy, clairvoyance or other similar powers, or

(b)in purporting to act as a spiritualistic medium or to exercise such powers as aforesaid, uses any fraudulent device,

shall be guilty of an offence.

(2)A person shall not be convicted of an offence under the foregoing subsection unless it is proved that he acted for reward; and for the purposes of this section a person shall be deemed to act for reward if any money is paid, or other valuable thing given, in respect of what he does, whether to him or to any other person.

Someone could do it for fun, but not charge for it - that doesn’t recognise it as "real".

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Some people do believe in the afterlife, visitations, spirits (good and bad), voodoo, etc etc.

Possibly the same type of people who believe the Earth is flat, have seen (and been abducted by) Aliens, believe Fairies are real, and truly believe their particular God (and there are many) is listening to them.

To be fair to Richard though, there have been (and will be again) people who commit some horrific crimes that say the voices in their head told them to do it ;)

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36222698)

What I meant by this was the introduction of the Fraudulent Mediums Act. For some mediums to be fraudulent, there has to be genuine mediums.

This is just a work of art.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36222703)

This is just a work of art.

What is?

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Just that entire construction. For some mediums to be fraudulent, there has to be genuine mediums.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36222705)

Just that entire construction. For some mediums to be fraudulent, there has to be genuine mediums.

The Act was introduced to prevent people from being ripped off by charlatans pretending to be in contact with spirits, often family. Genuine mediums giving genuine messages wouldn't be prosecuted.

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For some mediums to be fraudulent, there has to be genuine mediums.

So, by the same logic "For these £9 notes to be fraudulent, there has to be genuine £9 notes" .... :dozey:

The whole statement is just ... fraudulent. :erm: