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Sephiroth 19-06-2025 17:21
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36198228)
Most of the middle east would be happy to see the end of Israel . If they were pro USA, so would donny ,as long as they are anti USA, Israel will be protected.
And what about you? Wou,ld you be happy to see the end of Israel?

TheDaddy 19-06-2025 17:42
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36198219)
I think I also read that Iran was still in negotiations when Israel launched strikes. So to me that reads that Israel doesn’t trust those parties involved in the negotiations? But it’s quite happy to demand their help?
The also killed the lead negotiator who said he was ready to sign a deal last month...

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Israel or more specifically Netanyahu is becoming quite the Harvey Dent
Two face will do anything to stay out of prison...

Sephiroth 19-06-2025 18:24
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@TheDaddy. I’m not quarrelling with your observations - but three things:

1/
Do you accept that Iran is lying through its teeth on making a nuke and negotiate as a delaying tactic?

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Israel is acting having regard to the IAEA report, which is quite clear about Irans’s nuclear ambitions. Do you agree?

3/
Would you be content to see Israel obliterated?

papa smurf 19-06-2025 18:38
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Looks like Trumps gone TACO on bombing Iran according to Heidi hitler at the white house briefing the president will wait 2 weeks before deciding

Sephiroth 19-06-2025 20:22
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It needs doing. A 30 ton bomb or two into the big Iranian atom centre.

If the Uk craps on its ally for refuelling facilities, I moot that Saudi Arabia might step up.

Dude111 19-06-2025 20:34
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Originally Posted by peanut
So let me get this straight....

This morning, Trump says unconditional surrender or else. Then Russia steps in and tells the US to back off or else. Trump then says er maybe, maybe not get involved...

Like he thought he's master of the universe and whatever he says goes...
Yup he is a bloody moron who thinks no one will challenge what he says.....

He is making our country look worse and worse and we dont need that.. People who are awake and aware already know how bad this country is! (Im sure you guys do)

There was this business by me that had a sign that every night was on,it said "GOD BLESS THE USA" -- The Day that Donny yelled at Mr Zelensky months back,they turned if off and its been off since!!

mrmistoffelees 19-06-2025 20:36
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36198225)
Do you believe that Iran is developing a nuke? (note the IAEA report).

Do you believe that an Iranian nuke would be used or threatened against Israel?

Do you deplore Iran's policy for the destruction of the State of Israel?

It's useful to note where people stand on the underlying issues (Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah) dedicated to Israel's destruction).
Go and read my earlier post, it’s pretty blatantly obvious how I feel about Iran but that doesn’t mean I can’t call out Israel for what I believe to be immoral actions.

Just how much of a childish mindset do you have to have to believe that by criticising one you’re automatically supporting the other

Sephiroth 19-06-2025 20:43
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The Iranians are a massive bunch of tools , they are however honest with their intentions.

Also, why isn’t the point that the US blocked Israel’s plans to assassinate the chief Iranian tool being discussed ?

I’m not sure Israel’s objectives are just about stopping Iran from a functioning nuclear weapon, that might be the implied objective sure, but if they could implement regime change as well? They wouldn’t say no would they
If this is the post (16-June) to which you are referring, it goes nowhere near answering my question.

This part of the thread is debating the Israel/Iran war. Your position would be properly clarified if you bothered to answer my questions.

papa smurf 19-06-2025 20:56
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36198239)
It needs doing. A 30 ton bomb or two into the big Iranian atom centre.

If the Uk craps on its ally for refuelling facilities, I moot that Saudi Arabia might step up.
Or instead of that gung ho idea we might try diplomacy and de-escalating tensions, it's probably better not to litter the region with more bodies

mrmistoffelees 19-06-2025 21:05
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36198244)



If this is the post (16-June) to which you are referring, it goes nowhere near answering my question.

This part of the thread is debating the Israel/Iran war. Your position would be properly clarified if you bothered to answer my questions.
My word, you would twist on 21.

You’re not daft so If you cannot understand from the above that I’m completely against Iran’s actions then I’d suggest you have a word with yourself

To add , I don’t have to specifically state my objections to one thing to be able to state my objections to something else.Again, the tactics you’re employing are infantile and don’t fit with your normal well reasoned arguments.

Sephiroth 19-06-2025 21:17
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36198246)
Or instead of that gung ho idea we might try diplomacy and de-escalating tensions, it's probably better not to litter the region with more bodies
Don't you think that "de-escalating" just gives Iran more time to fulfil their true objective?

They've been talking for years, hiding things from the IAEA. Surely, the IAEA report carries weight to justify Israel's actions?

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36198247)
My word, you would twist on 21.

You’re not daft so If you cannot understand from the above that I’m completely against Iran’s actions then I’d suggest you have a word with yourself

To add , I don’t have to specifically state my objections to one thing to be able to state my objections to something else.Again, the tactics you’re employing are infantile and don’t fit with your normal well reasoned arguments.
Not being daft, I couldn't see that you are completely against Iran's actions.

Now what about Israel's action in their pre-emptive strike in the light of the IAEA report?

Why is it so difficult to get straight answers?

mrmistoffelees 19-06-2025 21:19
Re: Israel v Iran conflict
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36198248)
Don't you think that "de-escalating" just gives Iran more time to fulfil their true objective?

They've been talking for years, hiding things from the IAEA. Surely, the IAEA report carries weight to justify Israel's actions?

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Not being daft, I couldn't see that you are completely against Iran's actions.

Now what about Israel's action in their pre-emptive strike in the light of the IAEA report?

Why is it so difficult to get straight answers?
You get straight answers , you just don’t like them or they don’t fit your narrative.

TheDaddy 19-06-2025 21:22
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36198246)
Or instead of that gung ho idea we might try diplomacy and de-escalating tensions, it's probably better not to litter the region with more bodies
Seems not to really matter to bibi as long as they're not Jewish, if anyone was ever in doubt about the discrimination in Israeli society you only have to look at these two towns, Tamra, 38000 mainly Arab Israeli residents 0 public bomb shelters and it's neighbour Karmiel 55000 mainly Jewish residents 126 public bomb shelters

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36198247)
My word, you would twist on 21.

You’re not daft so If you cannot understand from the above that I’m completely against Iran’s actions then I’d suggest you have a word with yourself

To add , I don’t have to specifically state my objections to one thing to be able to state my objections to something else.Again, the tactics you’re employing are infantile and don’t fit with your normal well reasoned arguments.
Completely agree, although I'm not playing his stupid, childish games for the record

Pierre 19-06-2025 21:49
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36198228)
Most of the middle east would be happy to see the end of Israel . If they were pro USA, so would donny ,as long as they are anti USA, Israel will be protected.
Saudi and the Emirates are quite happy to let Israel destroy Iran, quite happy indeed.

Dude111 20-06-2025 02:13
All this fighting and bickering needs to end before something unreversable happens :(


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