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Re: BoJo referred to police by the Cabinet Office. Partygate II?

Anyway, back in the news, two seemingly contradictory statements…

On Radio 4 this morning

https://twitter.com/paulbranditv/sta...Fx9lsEXWlOa1jg

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Former Health Minister during the pandemic Lord Bethell* insists that govt decisions were not made via WhatsApp.

“Most of the WhatsApp messages are about coffee and who needs to have what kind of coffee for what meeting”.

In todays Times

The three vital WhatsApp groups No 10 used to beat the pandemic

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/7...6017cd4dcfc7fa

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Ministers and officials used numerous WhatsApp groups to make crucial decisions about the pandemic, The Times can disclose, as the chairwoman of the Covid inquiry prepares to rebuke the government on Tuesday for its refusal to hand over unredacted messages...

… The legal wrangle has raised questions about the use of WhatsApp in government both during the pandemic and subsequently. The Times has been told of the existence of three WhatsApp groups that played pivotal roles in the government’s response to the pandemic.

One, named “CSA/CMO/Matt/PM/Dom”, was set up in March 2020 and had seven members: Johnson, then the prime minister; Matt Hancock, the health secretary; Dominic Cummings, Johnson’s chief adviser; Lee Cain, Johnson’s communications director; Sir Chris Whitty, the chief medical officer; Sir Patrick Vallance, the chief scientific adviser; and Simon Case, initially the Downing Street permanent secretary and later cabinet secretary.

A second group, named “No 10/DHSC/Covid-19”, was set up in February 2020 and had a much broader membership of just over 30. It did not include Johnson but included Cummings, Cain, Whitty and Vallance as well as Sir Chris Wormald, the permanent secretary at the Department of Health. Others in the group included data science officials, civil contingencies experts, Munira Mirza, the head of Johnson’s policy unit, and Liam Booth-Smith, then a Treasury special adviser and now Rishi Sunak’s Downing Street chief of staff.

A third group, called “CMO/CSA/No 10/Taskforce”, was formed in August 2020. It included Whitty, Vallance, Case, Cummings, Cain and Henry Cook, an adviser whose unredacted correspondence the Cabinet Office is also refusing to hand to the inquiry.

*the same Lord Bethell who replaced his phone before it could be investigated for shenanigans regarding PPE contracts

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ld-be-searched

Re: BoJo referred to police by the Cabinet Office. Partygate II?

I think that Sunak has something to hide here and Johnson knows it and is seeking some kind of revenge. Should be fun!

Re: BoJo referred to police by the Cabinet Office. Partygate II?

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36153305)

I think that Sunak has something to hide here and Johnson knows it and is seeking some kind of revenge. Should be fun!

https://media.tenor.com/UoV14Q8SO78A...e-show-you.gif

Re: BoJo referred to police by the Cabinet Office. Partygate II?

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36153305)

I think that Sunak has something to hide here and Johnson knows it and is seeking some kind of revenge. Should be fun!

Johnson being Johnson, wouldn't probably blow his wad on just "revenge". If he has something on Sunak, I'm sure he'll use it as leverage for himself.....for something.

Re: BoJo referred to police by the Cabinet Office. Partygate II?

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36153293)

It explains the perversity of your blind support for Johnson in that you can’t see that your first sentence is factually correct, and basically sums up (and has been documented as such) Johnson’s approach to life.

And you don’t see the perversity of ignoring the second sentence. Incredible!

It’s time to move on from this ridiculous anti-Johnson hysteria. I’m out.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36153310)

And you don’t see the perversity of ignoring the second sentence. Incredible!

It’s time to move on from this ridiculous anti-Johnson hysteria. I’m out.

There is no perversity in not commenting yet again on your failed conspiracy theory, Old Boy.

If you wanted to defend Johnson, there's better ways of doing so.

Re: BoJo referred to police by the Cabinet Office. Partygate II?

The son of the tory donor who hosted bozos wedding has just been given a £11.2 million government grant for services rendered, hell of a return on the £24k invested isn't it Lord Bamford, hope someone is keeping a close eye out for the hydrogen buses, these people would make a third world junta blush with embarrassment, it's all they've got left boat people and fleecing the country for as much as they can stuff in their cronies grubby little hands

Re: BoJo referred to police by the Cabinet Office. Partygate II?

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36153314)

Oh, it's not just the wedding they shelled out for...

https://members.parliament.uk/member...teredinterests

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Name of donor: Lady Carole Bamford
Address of donor: private
Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: Concessionary use of accommodation for me and my family in September, estimated value £10,000
Date received: 2 September 2022 - 2 October 2022
Date accepted: 2 September 2022...

...Name of donor: Lord Anthony and Lady Carole Bamford
Address of donor: private
Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: Use of another property for accommodation for me and my family, estimated value £3,500
Date received: 16 September 2022 - 15 October 2022
Date accepted: 16 September 2022
Donor status: individuals...

the two accommodations are repeated 8 times to the current time, at a total value of around £130k

Re: BoJo referred to police by the Cabinet Office. Partygate II?

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36153308)

Johnson being Johnson, wouldn't probably blow his wad on just "revenge". If he has something on Sunak, I'm sure he'll use it as leverage for himself.....for something.

You may be right but I feel that even Johnson knows his time in the sun is over. All he has now is the grifting and maybe causing trouble for the man who is "in his seat".

Re: BoJo referred to police by the Cabinet Office. Partygate II?

There are rumours Johnson wants a safer seat than Uxbridge as that could well be lost on current polling, maybe he is trying to force that.

Re: BoJo referred to police by the Cabinet Office. Partygate II?

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36153310)

I’m out.

We’ve been here before.