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Hugh 25-06-2022 18:59
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme...-travel-costs/

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Large U.S. companies reacted Friday after the Supreme Court overruled Roe v. Wade, with a slew of corporations vowing to expand health benefits to cover employee travel expenses to obtain abortions.

In the wake of the high court ruling, Walt Disney on Friday said it would cover employee travel costs for "family planning" for employees who can't access care where they live, including "pregnancy-related decisions." Disney employs 195,000 people, including about 80,000 in Florida…

… After a draft of the Supreme Court decision upending the 50-year precedent was leaked in early May, companies including MasterCard, Paypal and Starbucks said they would help pay for employees who needed to travel to seek reproductive services.

After several states enacted restrictive reproductive health care laws, companies including Amazon, Apple, Citigroup, Microsoft and Salesforce said they would reimburse workers who get abortions in other states.

Damien 25-06-2022 20:09
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36126250)
Lawrence vs Texas will be the one they go for...
I would be surprised if they did any time soon. I think that while a couple of them would like to do so they must be aware of the damage it would cause if they suddenly started overturning loads of 'liberal' rights. The point is precedents are meant to be hard to overturn and the court is meant to be a slow process. Not to go gangbusters based on the political leanings of the judges at the time.

TheDaddy 25-06-2022 20:54
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36126252)
I would be surprised if they did any time soon. I think that while a couple of them would like to do so they must be aware of the damage it would cause if they suddenly started overturning loads of 'liberal' rights. The point is precedents are meant to be hard to overturn and the court is meant to be a slow process. Not to go gangbusters based on the political leanings of the judges at the time.
Lets hope someone has told them that

Dave42 25-06-2022 20:55
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abortion all wrong but mass shootings no can never do anything stop that shocking what hypocrites

nomadking 25-06-2022 21:11
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The Supreme Court is not meant to be there to give out new rights that didn't exist when the original Constitutional Right was introduced. That is for State or Federal legislation to do.

Mick 25-06-2022 22:36
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36126256)
The Supreme Court is not meant to be there to give out new rights that didn't exist when the original Constitutional Right was introduced. That is for State or Federal legislation to do.
Hmm, last part not strictly true, a caveat to this is the Supreme Court has the power to strike down laws that are not Constitutional. So Congress can write a new Federal law, but the Constitution is the bedrock to any such laws being legitimate and once this is taken to Scotus, usually when someone takes government to court, they can rule on them being Unconstitutional, once that happens, laws go out of effect.

Paul 26-06-2022 01:13
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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36126235)
It’s the ultimate hypocrisy that the same people who are in favour of people being able to have virtually unlimited weapons of death, are the same people imposing a law that prohibits women having a choice with childbirth. Whatever the circumstances.
They are truly twisted.
or .... the people opposing weapons of death [ownership] want to legalise killing unborn children. :erm:

There's always more than one way to look at things. ;)

Hugh 13-09-2022 18:26
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https://wapo.st/3QKtNdo

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Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) on Tuesday will make public his plans to introduce a bill in the Senate that would ban abortions nationwide, one that is expected to restrict the procedure after 15 weeks of pregnancy, according to several antiabortion advocates with knowledge of internal discussions..

… The timing of Graham’s announcement is curious, two months after most Republicans justified the Supreme Court’s June decision to overturn Roe v. Wade by arguing that abortion rights should be left to states to decide.

Jaymoss 13-09-2022 18:56
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Have absolutely no problem with a ban after 15 weeks baring in mind medical reasons do not count as abortion

BenMcr 14-09-2022 10:28
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36134086)
medical reasons do not count as abortion
Yes, they do.

There is no medical difference between any type of abortion, irrespective of the reason for it.

Jaymoss 14-09-2022 10:32
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36134119)
Yes, they do.

There is no medical difference between any type of abortion, irrespective of the reason for it.
Not in respect of this law I guess I worded what I put badly

Hugh 14-09-2022 10:38
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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36134119)
Yes, they do.

There is no medical difference between any type of abortion, irrespective of the reason for it.
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36134120)
Not in respect of this law I guess I worded what I put badly
https://wapo.st/3U6QV8W

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Asked if his bill had exceptions for cases in which fetal abnormalities appear later in the pregnancy or if a child is stillborn, Graham said he did not know.

nomadking 14-09-2022 10:44
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The problem with allowing exemptions, is that will magically increase to fit the number seeking abortions. All they have to say is that not having an abortion would be detrimental to the mothers mental health, and that is it. As with exemptions for claims of rape and incest, no proof required.
Eg UK law
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Prior to 1967, it was already established in law, by the 1938 Bourne decision, that an abortion was legal if the doctor was 'of the opinion on reasonable grounds and with adequate knowledge of the probable consequences' that continuing the pregnancy would 'make the woman a physical or mental wreck'. This was significant because it confirmed that the grounds for a lawful abortion extended not merely to saving the woman from death but also to considering her mental and physical wellbeing.
It ended up being abortion on demand.

Jaymoss 14-09-2022 10:47
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36134121)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ency-abortions

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Physicians must continue to offer abortions in cases of medical emergencies without exception, Joe Biden’s administration said on Monday, as it insisted federal law would overrule any total state bans on abortion.
Think the President trumps as does federal law over state

nomadking 14-09-2022 10:48
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36134121)
In the UK "fetal abnormalities", ended up including the easily treatable condition of cleft palate. If the baby is already dead, how can it count as abortion? The pregnancy has already ended.


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