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Russ	05-11-2021 15:47

Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36100168)

If you cannot see this then either you are not paying attention or you agree with the direction they are taking this country.

Nail hit on head, right in the middle of the middle.

Mr K	05-11-2021 19:18

Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36100170)

I am not a big fan of leftist politics and I would very much like to see the Conservatives get their house in order. I wonder whether many inside the parliamentary party will begin to think that means removing Boris before there’s another election.

And which towering talent would you replace him with? Matt Hancock? Gavin Williamson ? Even the popular Liz Truss started out as a Lib Dem and a republican - not typical Tory fodder.

Itshim

05-11-2021 19:33

Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36100228)

And which towering talent would you replace him with? Matt Hancock? Gavin Williamson ? Even the popular Liz Truss started out as a Lib Dem and a republican - not typical Tory fodder.

One is as bad as another. All work to a puppet masters tune . Just pick which one you want! Just remember that the majority never get the government . Do not recall when any government had the support of majority of the country . Ie number of people voting for it is at least 51% of the population as a whole. Learn to work with it and stop moaning:dozey:

1andrew1

05-11-2021 20:29

Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36100228)

And which towering talent would you replace him with? Matt Hancock? Gavin Williamson ? Even the popular Liz Truss started out as a Lib Dem and a republican - not typical Tory fodder.

The top five most popular Conservative politicians per this YouGov poll are:
1. Rishi Sunak
2. Boris Johnson
3. Theresa May
4. Ruth Davidson
6. Sajid Javid
https://yougov.co.uk/ratings/politic...oliticians/all

This would suggest an Asian politician as PM if Johnson is deposed. Another first from the Conservative Party.

Pierre

05-11-2021 22:38

Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36100168)

If you cannot see this then either you are not paying attention or you agree with the direction they are taking this country.

The nail may well have been hit on the head. The tragedy is that after all the sleaze, all the corruption, all the cronyism, they’re still the preferred option versus the alternative. That’s the real shame.

OLD BOY

06-11-2021 00:22

Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36100197)

Paterson out I think the current process is reasonable enough so long as Number 10 and Tory party keep their grubby paws off it.

Trial by social media. How comforting.

1andrew1

06-11-2021 00:30

Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36100250)

Trial by social media. How comforting.

Paterson sentenced himself when he said he would “do it again tomorrow”.

OLD BOY

06-11-2021 04:02

Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36100251)

Paterson sentenced himself when he said he would “do it again tomorrow”.

All of which points to the fact that there is no right of appeal. Are you really happy with that?

Whether or not he’s guilty as charged is a separate issue.

Sephiroth

06-11-2021 10:25

Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36100261)

All of which points to the fact that there is no right of appeal. Are you really happy with that?

Whether or not he’s guilty as charged is a separate issue.

There's no defence for the stunt the government tried to pull.
They are indeed separate issues but the Guvmin decided to bring the two together with the inevitable results in terms of public disapproval.

Hugh	06-11-2021 10:48

Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36100250)

Trial by social media. How comforting.

No, Trial by a previously agreed process that didn’t appear to have issues until now, when the Government tried to replace the previously agreed process with one that they could control.

I would recommend reading pages 35-48 of the Standards Committee Report, which focus on Paterson’s arguments relating to the process of investigation and adjudication.

https://committees.parliament.uk/pub...79907/default/

papa smurf

06-11-2021 10:57

Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

All rise for judge Skippy and the court of Kangaroo justice.

Hugh	06-11-2021 11:01

Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36100271)

All rise for judge Skippy and the court of Kangaroo justice.

No need to worry about bias - Rees-Mogg & Johnson have backed off from the Leadsom Amendment, which wanted to set up a Select Committee with an inbuilt Conservative majority…

Quote:

That the Committee consist of nine Members;

(c) That Mr John Whittingdale be Chair of the Committee and be given a casting vote in the event of a tie;

(d) That the Committee shall consist of eight other backbench members; to be nominated by parties in the proportion of four Conservative, three Labour and one SNP;

jfman

06-11-2021 11:24

Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36100250)

Trial by social media. How comforting.

I’m not sure the independent standards commissioner is on Twitter.

Dave42

06-11-2021 23:26

Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36100261)

All of which points to the fact that there is no right of appeal. Are you really happy with that?

Whether or not he’s guilty as charged is a separate issue.

and you would not say that if it wasn't a tory that got caught you really need to take the tory rose tinted glasses off OB

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36100267)

:clap: :clap:

Paul	07-11-2021 00:23

Re: Owen Paterson: Anger as Tory MP avoids suspension in rule shake-up

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36100274)

I’m not sure the independent standards commissioner is on Twitter.

As best I can tell, she isnt.

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