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rtho782 21-12-2020 11:11

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarf2007 (Post 36063087)
Ok so quick update on this. Even though my hub4 doesn't have the latest firmware which would stop the ports 'unbonding' I went ahead with the setup anyway as figured I could at least test full speed for a few hours then it will drop down to one link so will be back to 950/52 which is what I had with just the AX86u and hub4 in modem mode.

Anyway, purchased the Mikrotik router and updated to the latest stable firmware and running in router mode. Configured the bond for two 1Gbps interfaces that were connected to the hub4. Bridged the bond (disabling arp) to the single interface that has a 10g copper module (also support 2.5g and 5g).

I then inside the Asus ax86u set the WAN port as the 2.5g port, connected with a cat6 cable to the Mikrotik router on its 10g copper module and confirmed that the Asus WAN port speed negotiated at 2.5g.

After rebooting everything and what seemed like 5 minutes, I got an Internet connection.

However, when testing with speed test I am getting 600/52 maximum!! tried removing one of the cables from the hub4 to Mikrotik but still no change. Not sure if the Mikrotik is restricting something as when I go direct from router's 2.5g wan port to hub4 (negotiated at 1Gbps) I get 950/52!!

only had limited time for testing so will try again later and report back..might also be better if and when vm deliver the firmware update to hub4.

Interesting, can I have screenshots of your config please?

Bort 04-01-2021 15:56

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zarf2007 (Post 36063087)
Ok so quick update on this. Even though my hub4 doesn't have the latest firmware which would stop the ports 'unbonding' I went ahead with the setup anyway as figured I could at least test full speed for a few hours then it will drop down to one link so will be back to 950/52 which is what I had with just the AX86u and hub4 in modem mode.

Anyway, purchased the Mikrotik router and updated to the latest stable firmware and running in router mode. Configured the bond for two 1Gbps interfaces that were connected to the hub4. Bridged the bond (disabling arp) to the single interface that has a 10g copper module (also support 2.5g and 5g).

I then inside the Asus ax86u set the WAN port as the 2.5g port, connected with a cat6 cable to the Mikrotik router on its 10g copper module and confirmed that the Asus WAN port speed negotiated at 2.5g.

After rebooting everything and what seemed like 5 minutes, I got an Internet connection.

However, when testing with speed test I am getting 600/52 maximum!! tried removing one of the cables from the hub4 to Mikrotik but still no change. Not sure if the Mikrotik is restricting something as when I go direct from router's 2.5g wan port to hub4 (negotiated at 1Gbps) I get 950/52!!

only had limited time for testing so will try again later and report back..might also be better if and when vm deliver the firmware update to hub4.

When I've done the same testing I get 350Mb/s per link (2 links) and not 1.2Gb/s but this is when the Hub is in Router mode.

In Modem Mode it's a different story but due to ARP issues I can't get it working consistently, I'm still on older firmware.

Bort 12-01-2021 01:40

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Yesterday my Hub4 finally received the new firmware update which makes the port-aggregation work consistently and so I set it up and thought I'd share how I did it as I'm not using Mikrotik equipment instead I'm using just my normal pfSense router connected directly to the Hub4 (which is in modem mode).

So first of all within pfSense you can setup a round-robin LAGG from the Interfaces -> LAGGs menu (<RouterIP>/interfaces_lagg.php).

Obviously to use this you'll need multiple ethernet ports on your pfSense box to connect directly to the modem. You can use switches for this but I'm specifically detailing how to do this with just pfSense.

So my setup is 1 x 10Gb connection between my pfSense system and my home network (my entire home network is 10Gb wired).

Then for the Hub4 connection I used 4 x 1Gb ethernet. Now this is important because when I used only 2 x 1Gb connections I couldn't obtain more than 980 Mbps no matter what I did. So this was a 40 Mb improvement over using a single cable but not the 1.15-1.20 Gbps I was hoping for.

After a lot of trial and error I decided to connect 4 x 1Gb connections just as a test and instantly I was getting peak speeds of 1.22 Gbps within the pfSense interface and 1.15 Gbps to 1.20 Gbps in various speed tests that I conducted.

Here are some screenshots of those speeds:
Inside pfSense Directly:
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/01/3.png

Speedtest.net Result:
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/01/5.png

(You may notice in the above screenshot it shows the ISP as Datacamp Limited and not Virgin Media that's because the above test result is actually over an OpenVPN connection and not conducted directly.)

I did also do a plain DSLreports test over the raw connection without the VPN active and it hit 1140 Mbps which resulted in the test halting and them displaying me this message:
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2021/01/4.png

Which I found rather humorous.

So that's all there is to it really, setup your LAGG as Round Robin, select all the interfaces you intend to connect to your modem (I recommend four due to what I said above regarding performance) hit save, specify that new LAGG Interface as your WAN on pfSense and you're off to the races.

Since I cloned the MAC address from my normal interface to the LAGG (this can all be done in the pfSense Interface GUI) I was able to get the connection up and running without even rebooting my modem. If you're using a different MAC to the normal one you will need to restart the modem.

One last thing to note. Round Robin LAGG setups can be quite CPU intensive due to the packets arriving out of order requiring the CPU to reorder them and when you're dealing with a 1.15-1.20 Gbps data flow.. that's a lot of packets to potentially receive out of order.

I noticed my pfSense router which is equipped with a 3.3GHz Core i5 Quad Core from 2014 was reaching 30% to 50% CPU usage when maxing the connection out when usually it's around 5%. I did not experience any packet loss though which is excellent.

I bring this up as you may need a decent processor if you're doing this in pfSense and in my case I may even need to upgrade the CPU cooler I'm using as it got rather toasty when running a sustained 60GB file transfer test handling a heavier load than it usually does.

Rankrotten 12-01-2021 10:58

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
That's great news and more cost effective than having to buy dedicated kit.

My four LAN cables on the Mikrotik 4011 are split 2 and 2 across each pair of switch chips and the CPU hits around 9% when maxed out with round-robin bonding. Chassis is cool to the touch unlike the SFP+ modules which are hot.

Tazz 14-01-2021 19:18

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Got my update seems stable so far. Also saw someone posting stats from a hub 4 on the VM forums with 6 upstream channels couple days ago. This can only be good news.

olisun 15-01-2021 07:45

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz (Post 36066686)
Also saw someone posting stats from a hub 4 on the VM forums with 6 upstream channels couple days ago. This can only be good news.

Sounds like in preparation for the full 10% or faster upload speeds.

Bort 15-01-2021 07:54

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by olisun (Post 36066713)
Sounds like in preparation for the full 10% or faster upload speeds.

I've seen a few forum threads lately with people claiming multiple customer service representatives offered them 100Mb upload if they took 1Gig (supposedly offered to people thinking of quitting the service entirely).

All unverified but if it's true I'd certainly be happy!

bbxxl 15-01-2021 08:26

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Does anyone know how the rollout is going?
I can still only get 500Mb here.
I figure, based on the actual figures I’m getting, I might actually get 500Mb if I had their 1Gb service...

Tricky Trevor 15-01-2021 10:38

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
I've been hoping to find some sort of timetable of the rollout but there doesnt seem to be one.

david_w2k 15-01-2021 11:22

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 36066722)
I've been hoping to find some sort of timetable of the rollout but there doesnt seem to be one.

Yeah same. Would be good to know even rough timescales for regions/areas

Tricky Trevor 15-01-2021 16:32

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
I think the average for announcing new cities has been every 3-4 months on average

weesteev 15-01-2021 23:28

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
There wont be a public release of timetable for commercial reasons, the rollout is going well but there is substantial work required for this upgrade, some areas are easier than others! An area wont be announced until it is ready for "launch".

david_w2k 05-02-2021 12:51

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
I've noticed that on the 'My Account' page I now have a banner saying Gig1 is available in your area... but it hasnt been announced and I cannot buy it. I assume this is more likely to be an error rather than a sign it is coming to my area?

broadbandking 07-02-2021 21:39

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Perfect speeds here on 1gig.

bbxxl 07-02-2021 22:06

Re: 1gig Rollout getting faster
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 36069789)
Perfect speeds here on 1gig.

Judging by my speeds on 500Mb I reckon I should get 400-500Mb on 1Gb if it ever gets here.


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