Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Yes, that is inconvenient. There'll be a phonecall to a Chief Constable shortly demanding their version be 're-imagined' if the they still want a pension/CBE.....

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Self isolating doesn't mean not having contact with any other household, it means not having contact with anyone. Surely the best bet would be isolating as much as possible from the wife in the same house and hoping that the virus didn't hit him bad, not travelling 250 miles and potentially spreading it in a garage and to the other household. With the position he holds, I'm sure some emergency care could have been arranged if he did get the virus bad.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Poll of 3,700 people is hardly a hit.

The next question we should ask is, were the people who took part in that You Gov poll, mislead by a pathetic bunch of media hacks with a rather pathetic obsession of Cummings and they have axe to grind?

There is a much larger twitter poll on Momentum's main twitter page, over 25K votes, majority says he shouldn't resign and this is Momentum... :rofl:

He definitely shouldn't when no laws or rules were broken here.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Judging by Twitter today, they have plenty of friends they could call upon for childcare. ;) And they obviously had some kind of arrangements in place for this as they both worked. 16-hour days in Dominic's case, according to his wife.

I struggle to understand how they could have got all the way to Durham without filling up for petrol and taking a comfort break which would have resulted in contact with others.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Campaigners can brigade Internet polls, can’t do that with proper polls

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

I am still intrigued as to what rules and laws were broken here, anyone?

They left for their parents, to safeguarding of the child, which is in no doubt what any other common sense parent should have done, above all else that overrides everything else. But of course we are dealing with Cummings here and the haters are going to hate whatever he had done.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

It's the do as I say, not as I do, attitude Mick. Not just by Cummings by by a minister (Jenrick) who was allowed to get away with it. You don't have to break a law to be unsuited for office, there's the spirit of the law too.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Actually, if you had bothered to read. 53 posts all pertaining to be about Cummings were removed out of the Coronavirus thread because I did not want that thread becoming just about a man who broke no rules or laws. Simple isn't it?

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Jenrick broke no laws either.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

The Guardian is reporting an eyewitness saw him back in Durham after he was spotting in London recovered from the virus. Suggesting he went back there after coming back to London. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ockdown-claims

Not completely convincing, witnesses can be mistaken, but the press is going swarm is see if there is further evidence that he either didn't self-isolate when there or went back and forth.



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The Mirror has a different witness seeing him back in Durham after he had returned to Downing street: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...kdown-22075857

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

I think the recent letter from the Labour Party should help in this regard. Let's not forget that the Code of Conduct for Special Advisers states that advisers must “comply with the law and uphold the administration of justice.”
https://labourlist.org/2020/05/labou...lockdown-trip/

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

The HOUSEHOLD as a whole self-isolates, as the others could still be carrying it, without yet showing symptoms. What other household did they have contact with?:rolleyes:

Most people wouldn't have the option of moving to a spare property whilst self-isolating. The advice has to be set out how it is likely to apply for MOST people.
They did it out of NECESSITY.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Yes but as already explained, the exception here was that we had the issue of a young child's welfare that needed to be safeguarded by being looked after by trusted parties. We don't know why Cummings didn't choose someone more local to him, he might have already asked people, who then said no, he might have had people close by he knew but that does not mean he should have to entrust them with his own child. A parent should have the right to choose who they want, in this case he chose his parents probably like any other parent of a young child would have and likely to have done so.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

I know you likely don't believe it but if he had, after he had recovered and returned to London, then went back to Durham would you suggest that's enough for him to be fired?

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

And they should be told that he broke no rules or laws and then told to stfu.

I care little for anything said or requested by the Labour party.

I must insist Dominic Cummings broke no rules or laws.

Re: Dominic Cummings visited parents during lockdown measures
 

Whatever our views of having an exception for childcare, it did not exist when Dominic Cummings drove to Durham. No ifs, buts or maybes.

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Surely you must agree he broke the following, even if you sympathised with him doing so?
“If you live with others and you are the first in the household to have symptoms of coronavirus, then you must stay at home for 7 days, but all other household members who remain well must stay at home and not leave the house for 14 days.”

The NHS advice also states that: “If you or someone you live with has symptoms of coronavirus: do not leave your home for any reason – if you need food or medicine, order it online or by phone, or ask someone to deliver it to your home; do not have visitors in your home – including friends and family; do any exercise at home – you can use your garden, if you have one.”